Gordo Marshall

Hi

Me too, I am glad that christmas stuff is out the way. It sends me a bit wobbly! weeehhhhh!!!!!.

I always go for a long walk everyday between christmas and new year, and it's great to get out the house.

p.s. UK digital TV channels are full of crock, just as much as Australian TV is full of their imported left over crock!

Now digital radio - that is the go. Hope they get that in Australia soon too.

Yes, family can be odd creatures that is a given. I have come to the conclusion that many of mine simply do not understand the ups and downs of it all, not should I expect them too really.

Hang in there, Australia is great in many ways, just as the UK is too. Life is an adventure to be lived.

Tell you what though folks, those nice sunny adverts for holidays on Sky3 or whatever channel it was, when it was pouring with rain here yesterday and dark at 3.30pm made me want to jump on the next plane to Perth!.

Cheers

Baby75

yes and after long and hard thinking we are going home in feb. a lot of people will say that is to soon, to me its not. we will be here 9 months when we go home, I'm enjoying my self more now because i have something to aim for and can not wait to see my family again.

it could be a case of the wobbles for you and you might change your mind, i know when i first thought i wanted to go home, DH and I agreed to wait till Christmas and if I still felt the same then we would talk about what we should do. it just turned out that I couldn't last that long and we got a great price on flights. but it might work out for you and you might decided to stay longer.

i hope it all works out for you PM me if you like

Kooky.

I think the last few months before you leave the UK/wherever are totally artificial - parties galore, people want to see you just one last time, and you are the centre of attention.

You move away and, whilst everything is exciting and new to you, your friends and family get on with their lives. (Oh I know I was unbearable - just how many photos of the condo pool did I send everyone? )

If you go back - and we've only done it on annual visits but I notice it then too - you are all highly excitable again and wonder why everyone else is not so excited, but they are just getting on with their lives. (Well apart from one of my friends who wants to see me the whole 3 days I'm in Yorkshire; I love her but I also need to shop!)

JenJen, I remember you pre-arrival, I remember you on arrival, and I remember how thoroughly miserable you were. Then you realised you were pregnant and very unwell, and couldn't wait to get back. I know you had no support system here but I wish we'd all managed to persuade you to stay. You moved to the MBTTUK forum very quickly and I don't go in there so I'm just catching up on your news; I know you did what you had to do but I'm so sorry it's not working out as you thought. If nothing else, it should act as a warning to betsyboob to slow down, not make any rash decisions. You're offering some great advice and insights. I hope you get back here one day soon.

Baby75

I disagree, it can really help to talk to some one feeling exactly the same. I have gotten some excellent advice and it helped me a lot. ild consider none of it negative, most said it was normal to be feeling the way I was and give it time as sometimes its just a phase and you settle and love it . then there is the small amout who dont and your feelings get stronger and you then decide to go home. ive seen other people feeling the same as poster is now and get great advice and decide to stay. Australia is not for every one and nobody knows it till you try!

I wouldnt say its a forum just for whingeing about Australia at all, yep I wont deny there one or two threads on that. but there is plenty here giving out about home or were ever, fact of life we will always have something we dont like about Australia or home and then we moan about it

Baby75

here, here

clairemoir

Hi, my hubby and I feel the same we have been 5 months and are almost certain we dont want to stay here and have decided to treat it as a working holiday and commit for a year then if we still feel the same go home!

Fleaflyfloflum

Well said Baby.

I suppose the poster feels they should stay in here, suffer in silence, pretend all is ok, stiff upper lip and all that, instead of getting support help and advice from people who really are feeling the same way they do and they can relate to
We actually manage to have a good laugh over there you know!! And some of the biggest moaning whingers I have seen on this website have been known to hangout in the Barbie. They just moan about diffeent things!!

Baby75

very true

hevs

I disagree, the only time I feel homesick is when I go in there! So now I jusy don't

Good luck to those of you making the move back to the UK

Gordo Marshall

Good luck back in the UK, and I am sure it will all work out well for you.

I don't see this forum as a whinging forum as some may think - the fact that we maybe are seen as Brits to moan about things, can be simply interpreted as displaying a caring analysis of a given set of circumstances - it is about expressing views and opinions openly, and not bottling things up. Some moaning is indeed healthy, whilst bottling things up is most definetly not.

Born and bred (some interbred!) get on to use Brits for moaning, but I say, well, at least we have in-depth conversation and engagement with each other, rather than provide superficial nicities about sport, drinking, fishing, holdens, fords, house prices and well, usually who is 'hot'. and who is 'not', then themselves.

Wae Hae the Brits by a long chalk!. There are alot of fantastic things about the British character! Just got to focus upon them more.

Cheers

Fleaflyfloflum

Hallelujah!

Give that man a Blue Peter badge

Baby75

I agree lol only im from Ireland but I think we do the same talk , talk and more talk lol

remmie1

Hi betsyboob

God I hear you. In England now for Christmas and New Year (live in Queensland). It is such a head scramble. I called it a mind ***** but my daughter puts it better.

This is our 2nd time back in 3 years.

Just finished our house build in Qld on Oct 16 and flew out to Manchester on 6 Dec.

Left 32 degrees and arrived to minus 3!

At first I hated being back even though my lovely family are all here. My sister said we looked like fish out of water when we arrived.

Me, hubby and daughter all got flu within 4 days so that wasn't gonna help the mood.

BUT now after seeing everyone and going to their houses and parties etc. I am so messed up.

I know I like it in Qld but my heart is in England. BUT I don't want to live here.

I want ALL my family to move to Oz and then I would be fine! Then I think NO! I couldn't be doing with all the hassle from them (large extended family).

It's one extreme to the other, billy one mate in Oz and quite a quiet life to non stop visiting and laughing and talking and not having to try to fit in I just am. Hope this is making some sense?

All my waffle isn't going to help you at all I don't think but I do think a holiday back would give you some answers.

It has messed me up but I am looking forward to going back to Australia even though I love and miss my family so much.

We are having a NYE do and saying goodbye then and then off to another hotel for a day before flying home. Just need to get my head together after saying goodbye to them I can feel the emotions rising as I type.

Taking off the Christmassy, boozy, glasses off I realise I love them all but the distance isn't that bad and I am terrified of flying. They wouldn't have got together as much if we hadn't been here it was a good excuse. They normally just get on with their lives and see each other now and again. No big deal. I realise I am not missing much really.

Back to you (sorry!) after all the hassle of getting the visa a holiday would probably answer some of your questions (this has prob already been said I haven't read the whole thread).

I know it's bleedin expensive but so is shifting all the stuff.

I wish I had Simon Cowell's dosh and could have a place here and in Oz and flit whenever I wanted back and forth. Problem sorted. Maybe one day!

JenJen

It's hard cause I took all the rallying round and tears and we'll miss you crap to heart, people mean things in their own way. I never expected a red carpet when I came back, I didn't expect things to be the same or better I just expected what I'd always associated as normal, everything has felt alien though except the familiarity of knowing where I am, though that brings little comfort. I never expected friends i'd known years who live 5 minutes walk away to avoid me, nor did I expect friends who'd pledged help for when i'd returned suddenly withdraw this much needed help.
We've spent our first Xmas in 9 years being just us and the kids, family didn't understand this as we were back, why shouldn't they come over, they're excuse to see our kids, they haven't seen in at least 3 months in most cases.
It's odd as the few supportive family members we have left that heave been a great support and help to us understand why I am now looking to a point in the future where we can hopefully to return to Australia.
We won't set any firm dates right now, we need to wait to see the cardiologist after baby is born and find out where I stand with regards my heart condition, also we want to focus on babies first few months without the stress of trying to move. I am hopefully that within a year or 2 we will be back out there.
It was so easy when we were there before for me think the grass is greener here, and probably because my husband never really felt homesick he couldn't understand yet the ppl I spoke to back here on skype - friends and family all were really sympathetic and I think that made me feel worse.
I do think that once my health is sorted out, and baby is toddling about and I can go for walks, and don't have to worry about being breathless, exhausted (except for those teething nights - oh goody) and in pain, I will be able to run the kids about, i'll be able to enjoy where we go what we do and hopefully we will be able to rent in an area there is plenty for the kids and me to do.
I llike being outside and loved that winter was like a summer day here, I hate the cold, wet, miserable grey, frosty, icy winter weather and can't feel inspired to be outside much during the winter months.

Perhaps we'd even get on better with our families, not sure i'd want them visiting after all the fun we had with my dad staying for 5 weeks, not so sure i'd want to come back to visit lots of family either as like someone else said there'd probebly be get together and parties etc to attend and you'd get a really nice impression of what life could be like back here, in reality though it would never be like that.

It's mainly just us and the kids in the UK, we do have some family in Canberra and Tasmania, more than some have and I still chat to people in Melbourne, Queensland and we have friends applying at the moment to move out to Perth, not in the area we'd probably move back to but at least in the same country. In total we prob have more friends in Oz now than we do here !!!!!
An even better the company hubby worked for for only a short time have been very supportive and would like to have him back whenever he can get back to them be it a few months or 2 years so hopefully fingers crossed all works out ok.

I do have a great affection for Melbourne it feels like home to me, but we will see what the future brings first.

carolinephillips

JenJen I hope it works out for you. Friends who ignore you are not real friends irrespective of how long you have known them- they have moved on and you don't figure in their lives any more. Families can be odd too!!! (You can choose your friends but not your relatives)
My daughter used to get a flood of e-mails, but after 4 months they have now dried up. She is making new friends to fill the gap. What happens to kids happens to us adults too.