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Old May 11th 2006, 6:00 am
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I think i am going crazy, Or is my english not very good, My daughter had to do a word search page for her homework and she had to write two words but with the same sounding, Ie eight/ ate so we looked for an hour looking for the same as sore i am looking for the soar becasue i thought that would be the right word, So went up to the school and complained saying that the word search was wrong because the only word i could see that was not used was saw, She went away and said she would look in to it, Only to tell my daughter that sore and saw are the same word and its my accent that was wrong. I thought that we all spoke the queens english. Any help
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Old May 11th 2006, 6:07 am
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I think i am going crazy, Or is my english not very good, My daughter had to do a word search page for her homework and she had to write two words but with the same sounding, Ie eight/ ate so we looked for an hour looking for the same as sore i am looking for the soar becasue i thought that would be the right word, So went up to the school and complained saying that the word search was wrong because the only word i could see that was not used was saw, She went away and said she would look in to it, Only to tell my daughter that sore and saw are the same word and its my accent that was wrong. I thought that we all spoke the queens english. Any help
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Sore and saw sound the same to me!
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Originally Posted by svinnes
I think i am going crazy, Or is my english not very good, My daughter had to do a word search page for her homework and she had to write two words but with the same sounding, Ie eight/ ate so we looked for an hour looking for the same as sore i am looking for the soar becasue i thought that would be the right word, So went up to the school and complained saying that the word search was wrong because the only word i could see that was not used was saw, She went away and said she would look in to it, Only to tell my daughter that sore and saw are the same word and its my accent that was wrong. I thought that we all spoke the queens english. Any help
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OK. Firstly, there is no right or wrong, just different.

Sore and Saw are exactly the same to my aussie dialect.
Flour and flower?? I was also educated that these are the same. I move - and everyone laughs at me
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That's because aussies pronounce 'w' as 're' - 'Law and Order' is pronounced 'Lore and Order' or drawing is pronounced draw-ring - there is right and wrong, this is wrong
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Originally Posted by svinnes
I think i am going crazy, Or is my english not very good, My daughter had to do a word search page for her homework and she had to write two words but with the same sounding, Ie eight/ ate so we looked for an hour looking for the same as sore i am looking for the soar becasue i thought that would be the right word, So went up to the school and complained saying that the word search was wrong because the only word i could see that was not used was saw, She went away and said she would look in to it, Only to tell my daughter that sore and saw are the same word and its my accent that was wrong. I thought that we all spoke the queens english. Any help
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soar: soar (RISE QUICKLY) Show phonetics
verb
1 [I usually + adverb or preposition] to rise very quickly to a high level:
All night long fireworks soared into the sky.
Temperatures will soar into the eighties over the weekend say the weather forecasters.
House prices had soared a further twenty per cent.

2 [T] to reach an impressive height:
The highest peak in the range soars 15 771 feet into the sky.


adjective
soaring property prices.

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sore: sore (PAINFUL) Show phonetics
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painful and uncomfortable because of injury, infection or too much use:
All the dust has made my eyes sore.
I've got a sore throat.
My feet were sore with all the walking.

sore Show phonetics
noun [C]
a painful area on the surface of a body, especially an infected area:
The poor dog's back was covered with sores.
See also cold sore.

soreness Show phonetics
noun [U]

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saw: noun [C]
a tool with a long or round blade and a row of sharp points along one edge, which is used for cutting hard materials, such as wood or metal:
a hand/power/chain/circular saw
See also fretsaw; hacksaw; jigsaw.

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1 [I or T] to cut wood or other hard material using a saw:
They sawed the door in half.
He sawed through the pipe.

2 [I + adverb or preposition] to move something backwards and forwards as if using a saw:
He was sawing away at his violin, making a terrible noise!

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saw (SEE) Show phonetics

past simple of see

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Originally Posted by Ozzidoc
OK. Firstly, there is no right or wrong, just different.

Sore and Saw are exactly the same to my aussie dialect.
Flour and flower?? I was also educated that these are the same. I move - and everyone laughs at me
they are pronouced the same but have different meanings.

flour: flour Show phonetics
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powder made from grain, especially wheat, used for making bread, cakes, pasta, pastry, etc.
See also cornflour.

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Grease and flour (= put a thin layer of flour on) the tins thoroughly.

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She wiped her floury hands on a cloth.

2 UK describes potatoes that are dry and break into small pieces when they are cooked

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to pick flowers
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flowery Show phonetics
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Originally Posted by svinnes
I think i am going crazy, Or is my english not very good, My daughter had to do a word search page for her homework and she had to write two words but with the same sounding, Ie eight/ ate so we looked for an hour looking for the same as sore i am looking for the soar becasue i thought that would be the right word, So went up to the school and complained saying that the word search was wrong because the only word i could see that was not used was saw, She went away and said she would look in to it, Only to tell my daughter that sore and saw are the same word and its my accent that was wrong. I thought that we all spoke the queens english. Any help
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This woman is a cretin and a disgrace to the Australian education system. She should not be teaching.
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Originally Posted by Vash the Stampede
This woman is a cretin and a disgrace to the Australian education system. She should not be teaching.
that's no way to speak about Suzanne

Anyway short and sweet and to the point.
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Originally Posted by svinnes
I think i am going crazy, Or is my english not very good, My daughter had to do a word search page for her homework and she had to write two words but with the same sounding, Ie eight/ ate so we looked for an hour looking for the same as sore i am looking for the soar becasue i thought that would be the right word, So went up to the school and complained saying that the word search was wrong because the only word i could see that was not used was saw, She went away and said she would look in to it, Only to tell my daughter that sore and saw are the same word and its my accent that was wrong. I thought that we all spoke the queens english. Any help
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I'd agree with you. And I'm also from deepest, darkest Somerset where *sore* and *saw* could never sound the same in a month of Sundays.
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blimey I'm from sarf east london and saw and sore sound exactly the same to me!
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Originally Posted by svinnes
I think i am going crazy, Or is my english not very good, My daughter had to do a word search page for her homework and she had to write two words but with the same sounding, Ie eight/ ate so we looked for an hour looking for the same as sore i am looking for the soar becasue i thought that would be the right word, So went up to the school and complained saying that the word search was wrong because the only word i could see that was not used was saw, She went away and said she would look in to it, Only to tell my daughter that sore and saw are the same word and its my accent that was wrong. I thought that we all spoke the queens english. Any help
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Aussies cant speak english to save their lives, I had a similar argument over the words FOR and FOUR, Aussie teacher said they were pronounced the same, I dont think so.

And what about the use of singular and plural, they havent got a clue. How many time do you hear a newsreader for example say something like:-

There is loads of reasons..........or there is 500 people outside.............Lets face it, it's either English or it's wrong, you cant say you speak one language and then alter it to suit yourself, maybe all those convicts were just a bit thick when they came over and it's their fault.

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Aussies cant speak english to save their lives, I had a similar argument over the words FOR and FOUR, Aussie teacher said they were pronounced the same, I dont think so.

And what about the use of singular and plural, they havent got a clue. How many time do you hear a newsreader for example say something like:-

There is loads of reasons..........or there is 500 people outside.............Lets face it, it's either English or it's wrong, you cant say you speak one language and then alter it to suit yourself, maybe all those convicts were just a bit thick when they came over and it's there fault.

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Well If thats the case I'll fit right in then!
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i've been there nearly 2 years now and i still have a rant at the news/sports presenters when they say something like ".. and this is the xx players duh-boo!"... what the fik is a duhboo anyway? it always used to be debut where i come from.... but we don't exactly speak reet propper up 'ere anyweh.

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Much the same with many French words - I've had three arguments over the way to say "Moet" and 'c'est la vie' is pronounced with a T by a guy at work - have worked out now that they just say them as they look, no silent letters.

But the two that annoy me everytime are know-en/show-en - there's no E in it for goodness sake, and the Queensland "yous" - as in "Are yous going to work tomorrow" - there's only one of me, why make it plural!!!!
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Originally Posted by svinnes
I think i am going crazy, Or is my english not very good, My daughter had to do a word search page for her homework and she had to write two words but with the same sounding, Ie eight/ ate so we looked for an hour looking for the same as sore i am looking for the soar becasue i thought that would be the right word, So went up to the school and complained saying that the word search was wrong because the only word i could see that was not used was saw, She went away and said she would look in to it, Only to tell my daughter that sore and saw are the same word and its my accent that was wrong. I thought that we all spoke the queens english. Any help
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soar and saw sound completely different to me. I would have gone with sore and soar too
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