HELP New Member with my first Problem
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[QUOTE=daisydaydream]Hi Michelle,
I do agree with you to a certain extent, If I could drag her there kicking and screaming I would. BUT it would be kicking and screaming. :scared:
She is nearly 17 and is legally entitled to leave home " if she chooses to, or stay in this country if that is her choice and my parents have expanded that choice as they dont really agree with what I am doing and rather than backing me and explaining that it would be a great experience for her , they have undermined our choice of migration and said that eldest daughter can stay with them, yet in the next breath they have said " They dont really want the responsibility". So my head is spinning with it all at the moment.
Hmm. Okay, taking her to OZ 'kicking and screaming, is definitely NOT a good idea.
Your parents haven't 'underminded' you provided they meant what they said. You may think it's a great opportunity for ehr, but your parents and daughter may think otherwise.
You may need to discuss with them ways in which their feeling of responsibility could be reduced, so they don't feel they take on more than they can chew. Perhaps you could say to them that you only expect them to house and feed her if she stays and that you will help financially as you are able to, and that at 17 she is more or less an adult and needs minimum rules.
Rules for teenagers are often best negotiated anyway and explained why they are important, what real concerns, reasons for them are. Teens are much more likely to comply if they feel these thigns are hoenstly explained to them and that they have some power of negotiation in some areas.
Your parents also need to realise that you feel you need to make this choice and why, even though you are an adult and they may still not understand.
You also need to let them know how much you appreciate their help and how you would be concerned if she had no stable home or ran away due to feeling she had no say in her life or hated being in oz. Explain too that she can always apply to live on campus once she applies to university (she may need to list personal reasons to get preferential status).
Another thought: does she have a really good friend whose parents you could approach and explain the situation to and perhaps 'board' her with them?
I do agree with you to a certain extent, If I could drag her there kicking and screaming I would. BUT it would be kicking and screaming. :scared:
She is nearly 17 and is legally entitled to leave home " if she chooses to, or stay in this country if that is her choice and my parents have expanded that choice as they dont really agree with what I am doing and rather than backing me and explaining that it would be a great experience for her , they have undermined our choice of migration and said that eldest daughter can stay with them, yet in the next breath they have said " They dont really want the responsibility". So my head is spinning with it all at the moment.

Hmm. Okay, taking her to OZ 'kicking and screaming, is definitely NOT a good idea.
Your parents haven't 'underminded' you provided they meant what they said. You may think it's a great opportunity for ehr, but your parents and daughter may think otherwise.
You may need to discuss with them ways in which their feeling of responsibility could be reduced, so they don't feel they take on more than they can chew. Perhaps you could say to them that you only expect them to house and feed her if she stays and that you will help financially as you are able to, and that at 17 she is more or less an adult and needs minimum rules.
Rules for teenagers are often best negotiated anyway and explained why they are important, what real concerns, reasons for them are. Teens are much more likely to comply if they feel these thigns are hoenstly explained to them and that they have some power of negotiation in some areas.
Your parents also need to realise that you feel you need to make this choice and why, even though you are an adult and they may still not understand.
You also need to let them know how much you appreciate their help and how you would be concerned if she had no stable home or ran away due to feeling she had no say in her life or hated being in oz. Explain too that she can always apply to live on campus once she applies to university (she may need to list personal reasons to get preferential status).
Another thought: does she have a really good friend whose parents you could approach and explain the situation to and perhaps 'board' her with them?
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Originally Posted by daisydaydream
HI All,
New member!! New Member!! I have been reading all your amazing threads for a while and thought it time I join in.
So short introduction.
There's me my DH and 2 DD I am hoping to move from Bolton Lancashire to Melbourne this year, I'm hoping to transfer with work but i am also going through the visa process in parallel "just in case", But I have hit my first problem
. My eldest DD is 16 she will be 17 in May this year, we have discussed the subject of OZ with her for a while and she has been very indecisive about the whole thing, which I understand its a difficult time for her, over the past week she has stated that she defiantly will not move to OZ with us.
I have tried to reason with her and explain that she should just give it a try 6 months or so to see what she thinks, I have sympathised that "yes it will be difficult for all of us for a while but that she has nothing to lose", we will be there to support her, she will make new friends, she could even go to college and study, that the lifestyle change may do her the world of good. "All the reasons you can think" Ive tried them all,
But she is adamant that she wont even try it out.
HELP what do I do, me and my DH really want to make this move but as a family unit with both our children, now I feel so awful that I'm willing to abandon her (ok maybe a bit dramatic she can stay with my mum and dad if she doesn't come and we would support her as best we can ) for our own selfish reasons.
I just feel such a rubbish parent that I'm even considering leaving her behind. :scared: :scared:
New member!! New Member!! I have been reading all your amazing threads for a while and thought it time I join in.
So short introduction.
There's me my DH and 2 DD I am hoping to move from Bolton Lancashire to Melbourne this year, I'm hoping to transfer with work but i am also going through the visa process in parallel "just in case", But I have hit my first problem
. My eldest DD is 16 she will be 17 in May this year, we have discussed the subject of OZ with her for a while and she has been very indecisive about the whole thing, which I understand its a difficult time for her, over the past week she has stated that she defiantly will not move to OZ with us.I have tried to reason with her and explain that she should just give it a try 6 months or so to see what she thinks, I have sympathised that "yes it will be difficult for all of us for a while but that she has nothing to lose", we will be there to support her, she will make new friends, she could even go to college and study, that the lifestyle change may do her the world of good. "All the reasons you can think" Ive tried them all,
But she is adamant that she wont even try it out.
HELP what do I do, me and my DH really want to make this move but as a family unit with both our children, now I feel so awful that I'm willing to abandon her (ok maybe a bit dramatic she can stay with my mum and dad if she doesn't come and we would support her as best we can ) for our own selfish reasons.
I just feel such a rubbish parent that I'm even considering leaving her behind. :scared: :scared:
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Originally Posted by stutess
we have the same problem, our eldest is 17 and he wants to stay, as he has a good apprenticeship which lasts another 2 years, we have still done the visa's as though he is coming with us. he will fly out with us to get his visa stamped then fly back to england, this gives him 5 years to make up his mind if he wants to come to oz or stay in england.but we are hopeing he will change his mind and finish his apprenticeship in oz which he can do.
have replied earlier on, have same problem with 2 of mine, eldest is doing an apprenticeship here which he wants to continue with, i have tried contacting electrical companies in australia and so far they seem unwilling to take someone on who has already started their apprenticeship. can you please let me know where you went for help, many thanks.
#34
Originally Posted by srd
have replied earlier on, have same problem with 2 of mine, eldest is doing an apprenticeship here which he wants to continue with, i have tried contacting electrical companies in australia and so far they seem unwilling to take someone on who has already started their apprenticeship. can you please let me know where you went for help, many thanks.
#35
Originally Posted by srd
have replied earlier on, have same problem with 2 of mine, eldest is doing an apprenticeship here which he wants to continue with, i have tried contacting electrical companies in australia and so far they seem unwilling to take someone on who has already started their apprenticeship. can you please let me know where you went for help, many thanks.
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Originally Posted by daisydaydream
HI All,
New member!! New Member!! I have been reading all your amazing threads for a while and thought it time I join in.
So short introduction.
There's me my DH and 2 DD I am hoping to move from Bolton Lancashire to Melbourne this year, I'm hoping to transfer with work but i am also going through the visa process in parallel "just in case", But I have hit my first problem
. My eldest DD is 16 she will be 17 in May this year, we have discussed the subject of OZ with her for a while and she has been very indecisive about the whole thing, which I understand its a difficult time for her, over the past week she has stated that she defiantly will not move to OZ with us.
I have tried to reason with her and explain that she should just give it a try 6 months or so to see what she thinks, I have sympathised that "yes it will be difficult for all of us for a while but that she has nothing to lose", we will be there to support her, she will make new friends, she could even go to college and study, that the lifestyle change may do her the world of good. "All the reasons you can think" Ive tried them all,
But she is adamant that she wont even try it out.
HELP what do I do, me and my DH really want to make this move but as a family unit with both our children, now I feel so awful that I'm willing to abandon her (ok maybe a bit dramatic she can stay with my mum and dad if she doesn't come and we would support her as best we can ) for our own selfish reasons.
I just feel such a rubbish parent that I'm even considering leaving her behind. :scared: :scared:
New member!! New Member!! I have been reading all your amazing threads for a while and thought it time I join in.
So short introduction.
There's me my DH and 2 DD I am hoping to move from Bolton Lancashire to Melbourne this year, I'm hoping to transfer with work but i am also going through the visa process in parallel "just in case", But I have hit my first problem
. My eldest DD is 16 she will be 17 in May this year, we have discussed the subject of OZ with her for a while and she has been very indecisive about the whole thing, which I understand its a difficult time for her, over the past week she has stated that she defiantly will not move to OZ with us.I have tried to reason with her and explain that she should just give it a try 6 months or so to see what she thinks, I have sympathised that "yes it will be difficult for all of us for a while but that she has nothing to lose", we will be there to support her, she will make new friends, she could even go to college and study, that the lifestyle change may do her the world of good. "All the reasons you can think" Ive tried them all,
But she is adamant that she wont even try it out.
HELP what do I do, me and my DH really want to make this move but as a family unit with both our children, now I feel so awful that I'm willing to abandon her (ok maybe a bit dramatic she can stay with my mum and dad if she doesn't come and we would support her as best we can ) for our own selfish reasons.
I just feel such a rubbish parent that I'm even considering leaving her behind. :scared: :scared:
#37
Hi All,
Thanks for the advice and kind words of support. We have had long detailed and sometimes heated discussions
this weekend with our eldest and also my parents. Eldest has finally said she will at least try it and validate her visa "as and when we get them". So for now its stalemate
but its a step in the right direction, at least the door isn't closed completely. I'm sure there will be a lot of discussions between now and when we go but I think she finally understands the reason why we think its a good move for all of us. I think the top of bottom of it was she is scared
which is understandable but she also knows that we will be there to support each other every step of the way and if its not for her then we will understand but at least she has tried it.
I think deep down she wont admit it "shes a stubborn teenager" she really is quite excited about it all.
So fingers crossed, just have to get through the visa process now and sort out what is happening with work or am I going with my migration agent. "oh the joys" but it will be worth it in the end I'm confident of that.
thanks again
XXXX
Thanks for the advice and kind words of support. We have had long detailed and sometimes heated discussions
this weekend with our eldest and also my parents. Eldest has finally said she will at least try it and validate her visa "as and when we get them". So for now its stalemate
but its a step in the right direction, at least the door isn't closed completely. I'm sure there will be a lot of discussions between now and when we go but I think she finally understands the reason why we think its a good move for all of us. I think the top of bottom of it was she is scared
which is understandable but she also knows that we will be there to support each other every step of the way and if its not for her then we will understand but at least she has tried it.I think deep down she wont admit it "shes a stubborn teenager" she really is quite excited about it all.
So fingers crossed, just have to get through the visa process now and sort out what is happening with work or am I going with my migration agent. "oh the joys" but it will be worth it in the end I'm confident of that.
thanks again
XXXX
#38
Originally Posted by daisydaydream
Hi All,
Thanks for the advice and kind words of support. We have had long detailed and sometimes heated discussions
this weekend with our eldest and also my parents. Eldest has finally said she will at least try it and validate her visa "as and when we get them". So for now its stalemate
but its a step in the right direction, at least the door isn't closed completely. I'm sure there will be a lot of discussions between now and when we go but I think she finally understands the reason why we think its a good move for all of us. I think the top of bottom of it was she is scared
which is understandable but she also knows that we will be there to support each other every step of the way and if its not for her then we will understand but at least she has tried it.
I think deep down she wont admit it "shes a stubborn teenager" she really is quite excited about it all.
So fingers crossed, just have to get through the visa process now and sort out what is happening with work or am I going with my migration agent. "oh the joys" but it will be worth it in the end I'm confident of that.
thanks again
XXXX
Thanks for the advice and kind words of support. We have had long detailed and sometimes heated discussions
this weekend with our eldest and also my parents. Eldest has finally said she will at least try it and validate her visa "as and when we get them". So for now its stalemate
but its a step in the right direction, at least the door isn't closed completely. I'm sure there will be a lot of discussions between now and when we go but I think she finally understands the reason why we think its a good move for all of us. I think the top of bottom of it was she is scared
which is understandable but she also knows that we will be there to support each other every step of the way and if its not for her then we will understand but at least she has tried it.I think deep down she wont admit it "shes a stubborn teenager" she really is quite excited about it all.
So fingers crossed, just have to get through the visa process now and sort out what is happening with work or am I going with my migration agent. "oh the joys" but it will be worth it in the end I'm confident of that.
thanks again
XXXX

Where are you moving to? If it's anywhere near the Gold Coast, we could put your daughter and mine in touch with each other.
Julie. x
#39
Originally Posted by Juliecabs
This is good news DD. At least she is willing to "try" Oz out. I'm sure in time, once she has made the effort to meet new people, she will settle down there.
Where are you moving to? If it's anywhere near the Gold Coast, we could put your daughter and mine in touch with each other.
Julie. x
Where are you moving to? If it's anywhere near the Gold Coast, we could put your daughter and mine in touch with each other.
Julie. x
Hi Julie,
We are going to Melbourne Victoria with a bit of luck, patience, fingers crossed, and once the pain of filling in forms, and RPL's is done we can enjoy our new life......
X
#40
Originally Posted by daisydaydream
Hi Julie,
We are going to Melbourne Victoria with a bit of luck, patience, fingers crossed, and once the pain of filling in forms, and RPL's is done we can enjoy our new life......
X
We are going to Melbourne Victoria with a bit of luck, patience, fingers crossed, and once the pain of filling in forms, and RPL's is done we can enjoy our new life......
X




