Future for kids in Oz v UK
#46
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Re: Future for kids in Oz v UK
Well, if my son can survive the daily bullying from his feral pier group and the apathetic 'support' from the school staff to both his aspergers and his daily assaults, he will have a better life than the UK as at least he can access an apprentiship and become a tradie.
Maybe it's just me, but having had another call asking to pick him up as he has a headwound from an assault but is suspended for fighting back, i'm not having a very good morning
Maybe it's just me, but having had another call asking to pick him up as he has a headwound from an assault but is suspended for fighting back, i'm not having a very good morning
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Re: Future for kids in Oz v UK
Dean, we are in Australia. My own experience is that bullying is far worse here than anywhere else my kids have gone to school
paddyo, thanks for the support. In the last hour I have gone from getting upset to getting busy. I was very much thinking along the lines that you were and will be going in to the school with OUR agenda and not theirs
paddyo, thanks for the support. In the last hour I have gone from getting upset to getting busy. I was very much thinking along the lines that you were and will be going in to the school with OUR agenda and not theirs
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Dean, we are in Australia. My own experience is that bullying is far worse here than anywhere else my kids have gone to school
paddyo, thanks for the support. In the last hour I have gone from getting upset to getting busy. I was very much thinking along the lines that you were and will be going in to the school with OUR agenda and not theirs
paddyo, thanks for the support. In the last hour I have gone from getting upset to getting busy. I was very much thinking along the lines that you were and will be going in to the school with OUR agenda and not theirs
#49
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Name-calling etc can be dealt with but physical assaults are over the line. I would tell the headmaster that there needs to be a serious effort to make me and my child happy or it's going to end bad for him, i.e. ombudsmen, local councils, local press, national press, lawyers, ABH suits ETC.
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Dean, we are in Australia. My own experience is that bullying is far worse here than anywhere else my kids have gone to school
paddyo, thanks for the support. In the last hour I have gone from getting upset to getting busy. I was very much thinking along the lines that you were and will be going in to the school with OUR agenda and not theirs
paddyo, thanks for the support. In the last hour I have gone from getting upset to getting busy. I was very much thinking along the lines that you were and will be going in to the school with OUR agenda and not theirs
#52
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I know first hand, but like I said, it can be dealt with. why schools are so piss poor at dealing with bullying in general continues to vex me.
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Re: Future for kids in Oz v UK
Parental support is a large factor there. 'It's part of growing up' seems to be the attitude, closely followed by 'he needs to harden up'.
I think it may be different when their kids come home with serious bruising and get suspended when they get beaten by two other kids.
Will be meeting with the school later this week.....back to the original thread!
I think it may be different when their kids come home with serious bruising and get suspended when they get beaten by two other kids.
Will be meeting with the school later this week.....back to the original thread!
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Re: Future for kids in Oz v UK
I am really sorry but unless you lived in the roughest area in the uk why could your children not play on their scooter, basketball or AFL ball in the UK ?
I have been in both countries with my kids and there is no difference - drugs here drugs there, pervs here pervs there, rain here rain there - why can they not have freedom here. My two children have their freedom and we get so many comments on how confident and rounded they seem to be.
Just my opinion.[/QUOTE]
yep was my biggest bugbear when i cam to oz, suddenly my lovely 8 year old who loved to play outside didnt, she became moody and gained weight, however been here over three years now and she is used to being housebound........not quite housebound.......now we pay an arm and leg for sports a couple of times a week to get her out the house/.
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Crazy policy but nice and PC
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That very much bears out our experience Jad n Rich. Apparently, any kid who is getting beaten sensless cannot push back as 'violence is always unacceptable' and is punished with a suspension.
So by extrapolation, it's wrong to be bullied, it's wrong to try to protect yourself when you are being beaten for the fith time that week and it's wrong to be a victim.
I was going to let this lie on this thread but the call from the school this morning set me off again. The one line, self righteous , head in the sand (or wedged firmly up an orifice) attitude of some senior/head teachers frankly makes me want to help them experience what it's like to be beaten regularly by someone
So by extrapolation, it's wrong to be bullied, it's wrong to try to protect yourself when you are being beaten for the fith time that week and it's wrong to be a victim.
I was going to let this lie on this thread but the call from the school this morning set me off again. The one line, self righteous , head in the sand (or wedged firmly up an orifice) attitude of some senior/head teachers frankly makes me want to help them experience what it's like to be beaten regularly by someone
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Re: Future for kids in Oz v UK
That very much bears out our experience Jad n Rich. Apparently, any kid who is getting beaten sensless cannot push back as 'violence is always unacceptable' and is punished with a suspension.
So by extrapolation, it's wrong to be bullied, it's wrong to try to protect yourself when you are being beaten for the fith time that week and it's wrong to be a victim.
I was going to let this lie on this thread but the call from the school this morning set me off again. The one line, self righteous , head in the sand (or wedged firmly up an orifice) attitude of some senior/head teachers frankly makes me want to help them experience what it's like to be beaten regularly by someone
So by extrapolation, it's wrong to be bullied, it's wrong to try to protect yourself when you are being beaten for the fith time that week and it's wrong to be a victim.
I was going to let this lie on this thread but the call from the school this morning set me off again. The one line, self righteous , head in the sand (or wedged firmly up an orifice) attitude of some senior/head teachers frankly makes me want to help them experience what it's like to be beaten regularly by someone
Threaten the school with the police/law/courts/media/MP.
Fight fire with fire.
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Re: Future for kids in Oz v UK
Always teach your children to fight back - always, no exception. Teach them how to fight back against a larger child - knee in the balls, punch on the nose, fist into the larynx etc. Zero f**king tolerance.
Threaten the school with the police/law/courts/media/MP.
Fight fire with fire.
Threaten the school with the police/law/courts/media/MP.
Fight fire with fire.
Last edited by spartacus; Oct 28th 2010 at 1:06 am.
#59
Re: Future for kids in Oz v UK
Would you want your kids talking with an australian accent. Thats the real question you should be asking yourself
#60
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Many, including my wife, disagree with my stance on this but I don't care. I will always back my son if he stands up for himself in the face of adversity. I've taught him some 'moves' and we have regular practice sessions to keep him up to speed.