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Old Mar 2nd 2010, 3:21 pm
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Default Re: Fury as Migrant Workers Keep Jobs in Pilbara

Originally Posted by keel
One of the problems with the 457 visa's is that they last for 4 (I think) years. It's a binding contract that says the employer must keep them in a job for that length of time.

I know a specialist Engineering consultancy who couldn't find a suitable qualified Australian Engineer so they 457'd an Indian Engineer. He is absolutely hopeless at his job but they are forced to keep him. He is now used for general clerical work. This consultancy will not be making the same mistake again and still have to find somebody to do this work.

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In addition to Bermudashorts' reply, it could well be that he - and his employer - are breaking the terms of the 457 if he is not still doing the job he was paid to do.
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Old Mar 2nd 2010, 3:26 pm
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Total bulldhit asa they wpold ship him out and pay relocation costs nust be cheaper than krrpin y=the oik on ,they have a get out clause if they are noy up to the job ie looks good on paper but practically bit like george micjael to a woman lol
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Default Re: Fury as Migrant Workers Keep Jobs in Pilbara

Originally Posted by keel
One of the problems with the 457 visa's is that they last for 4 (I think) years. It's a binding contract that says the employer must keep them in a job for that length of time.

I know a specialist Engineering consultancy who couldn't find a suitable qualified Australian Engineer so they 457'd an Indian Engineer. He is absolutely hopeless at his job but they are forced to keep him. He is now used for general clerical work. This consultancy will not be making the same mistake again and still have to find somebody to do this work.

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Load of rubbish.

Employees on 457s can be retrenched/sacked the same as any other worker.

We're here on a 457 at the moment (PR app goes in beginning of next week!) - and the industry I was working in up in Brisbane used a lot of TR workers. You'd think - oh, its cost the company a fair whack to get you out here, they'll care about keeping you.. but its not the case. Soon as the work drops off, you stand and fall on your ability, just like any other worker. Difference is, if you're retrenched/sacked, you have 28 days to find another employer willing to sponsor you again or it's "Au Revoir Australia".
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Default Re: Fury as Migrant Workers Keep Jobs in Pilbara

Originally Posted by Australia_bound?
Some workers fly in and out yes, think you missed my point and went off on a tangent lol still don't see how Pilbara's boom is anything to do with Perth, bar some people who live there come and work up here.
Is lovely up here, loads of open spaces, just a tad on the hot side and don't get all mod cons. A major factor for people not moving up here is house prices AU$750,000 gets you a decent(ish) 4 bed house and rentals are about AU$1,500 a week.
Are starting flights from Karratha to the east coast, so will reduce flight costs for the FIFO people, if the so wish to work up here or are wanted. I know there is a lot of anti FIFO stuff going on in the local media.
Pilburas boom has absolutely everything to do with Perth. Perth is nothing without thsi boom.
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Default Re: Fury as Migrant Workers Keep Jobs in Pilbara

Originally Posted by Weebie
Pilburas boom has absolutely everything to do with Perth. Perth is nothing without thsi boom.
Also isn't Perth also the capital of WA?

Maybe the WA government should be told it has nothing to do with the Pilbura.
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Default Re: Fury as Migrant Workers Keep Jobs in Pilbara

There's an interesting debate going on:

http://www.perthnow.com.au/business/...-1225835904562


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Fact Posted at 12:47 PM Today

Most of these people coming into Australia on these 457 visa's are using it as a means of coming through the back door, to gain permanent residencey (sic), just like the foreign student racket.

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Truth, possibly?
An Australian view, definitely
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Default Re: Fury as Migrant Workers Keep Jobs in Pilbara

Originally Posted by nowthat
There's an interesting debate going on:

http://www.perthnow.com.au/business/...-1225835904562


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Fact Posted at 12:47 PM Today

Most of these people coming into Australia on these 457 visa's are using it as a means of coming through the back door, to gain permanent residencey (sic), just like the foreign student racket.

Comment 223 of 224
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Truth, possibly?
An Australian view, definitely
My wife and I came to Australia on a 457 and now both have Perm Res.
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Default Re: Fury as Migrant Workers Keep Jobs in Pilbara

Originally Posted by nowthat
Truth, possibly?
An Australian view, definitely
Truth? Yes - but hardly a revelation. I also wouldn't call it a back door.

A 457 under the correct circumstances is a legitimate route to PR, in the same way PR is a legitimate route to citizenship.
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Default Re: Fury as Migrant Workers Keep Jobs in Pilbara

Originally Posted by nicolamoon
Total bulldhit asa they wpold ship him out and pay relocation costs nust be cheaper than krrpin y=the oik on ,they have a get out clause if they are noy up to the job ie looks good on paper but practically bit like george micjael to a woman lol
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Default Re: Fury as Migrant Workers Keep Jobs in Pilbara

Originally Posted by Lord_Farquar
Also isn't Perth also the capital of WA?

Maybe the WA government should be told it has nothing to do with the Pilbura.

Sorry to need to explain this to you, but did you not read the random quote about "If Perth is to boom again why are people being laid off". Made by Weebie. Also have to point out my question was to him/her, not someone who joined the thread and couldn't be arsed reading it, then have a sarcastic dig. If 50 people are laid off over 1000km away from Perth why would it affect the boom there?
Oh and it's Pilbara not Pilbura
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Default Re: Fury as Migrant Workers Keep Jobs in Pilbara

Originally Posted by Weebie
Pilburas boom has absolutely everything to do with Perth. Perth is nothing without thsi boom.
The boom in the Pilbara will continue with the migrant workers helping raise loads of money for state & national governments to take most of it for their own ends.
Still not sure how 50 people being laid off is going to affect a boom in a City over 1000km away.
Pretty certain London had quite a few booms when the North of England was laying people off left right & centre. As I said most of them will have new jobs within weeks. Are always jobs available up here in the mining sector.
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Originally Posted by Australia_bound?
Sorry to need to explain this to you, but did you not read the random quote about "If Perth is to boom again why are people being laid off". Made by Weebie. Also have to point out my question was to him/her, not someone who joined the thread and couldn't be arsed reading it, then have a sarcastic dig. If 50 people are laid off over 1000km away from Perth why would it affect the boom there?
Oh and it's Pilbara not Pilbura
It's a free world and I can reply as I please.
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Default Re: Fury as Migrant Workers Keep Jobs in Pilbara

Originally Posted by Lord_Farquar
It's a free world and I can reply as I please.
Yes you can, but if you want to be sarcastic, please enlighten yourself with a few facts, rather than making yourself come across as a bit of a dimwit, who's trying to be a smart arse
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Originally Posted by Australia_bound?
Yes you can, but if you want to be sarcastic, please enlighten yourself with a few facts, rather than making yourself come across as a bit of a dimwit, who's trying to be a smart arse
Calm down sweetheart.

I was only having a bit of fun.
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Originally Posted by nicolamoon
Total bulldhit asa they wpold ship him out and pay relocation costs nust be cheaper than krrpin y=the oik on ,they have a get out clause if they are noy up to the job ie looks good on paper but practically bit like george micjael to a woman lol
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