Originally Posted by dave99 (Post 8178615)

I have noticed this to, often I feel like a second class citizen. Some of them look down on english people and if you ever dare to question anything australian you get the kneejerk reaction 'why dont you piss of back to england then'
They seem to live in their own little bubble, thinking they live in the best country in the world, which if you question them by pointing out how crap something is or a better way something could be done they cannot handle it. They act like a child whos toys have been stolen.

Originally Posted by verystormy (Post 8178850)

A lot of Ozzies are plain old racist. My wife is Peruvian and last Peruvian independance day we got together in a park for a bbq. We decorated the area with a combination of Peruvian flags and Australian flags, but we had people walking past saying some pretty derogatory remarks.

Originally Posted by Catch (Post 8178839)

lot of irish and scots have chips on their shoulders about english,so they should be the last ones to moan about aussies:thumbup:

Originally Posted by mono (Post 8178853)

They are often quite xenophobic (perhaps a by-product of their isolation) and they are quite tunnel-visioned in terms of thinking Australia is the best place in the world. They rival the Americans for that kind of thing.

Originally Posted by mono (Post 8178853)

They are often quite xenophobic (perhaps a by-product of their isolation) and they are quite tunnel-visioned in terms of thinking Australia is the best place in the world. They rival the Americans for that kind of thing.

Originally Posted by kporte (Post 8178860)

Is this better or worse than constantly running your country down like many Brits do? Serious question.

Originally Posted by mono (Post 8178864)

Worse. I'd rather self-deprecation than arrogance and conceit.

The former gets you closer to reality than the latter does.

Originally Posted by kporte (Post 8178873)

So Britian is shit then? I don't think so. It seems to be only Brits that find pride to be a flaw. The idea that you prefer a largely negative view of your country than a largely positive one, shows this.
As for reality, everyone's reality will be different. I don't think Britain is crap and I don't think Australia is the best country in the world. I don't believe it makes you arrogant to love your country either. As usual the Americans get brought in as thick and insular... Bollocks

Originally Posted by verystormy (Post 8178850)

A lot of Ozzies are plain old racist. My wife is Peruvian and last Peruvian independance day we got together in a park for a bbq. We decorated the area with a combination of Peruvian flags and Australian flags, but we had people walking past saying some pretty derogatory remarks.

Originally Posted by mono (Post 8178890)

NO! Britain is NOT shit! Didn't say that or imply it!

I simply think that being self-deprecating allows you to see the warts. It gives you a truer vision of things. Being arrogant blinds you to the truth.

People think that Australia is close to perfect. That is way more absurd than the moaning people do in the UK.

Originally Posted by dave99 (Post 8179004)

This more self-deprecating attitude at least allows people to see whats wrong and say, this thing is crap lets fix it or find a better way of doing it, improving things. Its much better than walking round with blinkers on thinking everythings perfect

Originally Posted by tartantopgun (Post 8178682)

You missed my point in your unique eloquent manner.

An English person moaning about being treated badly on account of them being English, is not an alien concept. They have systematically as a nation oppressed and bullied countless countries over a very long time with exactly that ethic. Even on a lighter note, rampaging across resorts the length and breadth of Europe, with the anti social obnoxious behavior. Not saying us Scots are immune to that kind of behavior, however, we seem to 'get along' with the locals a lot better than out southern cousins.

That was my reference to the irony of their post. It had no reference to Australia, or Australians. Catch ma drift? :blink:

Originally Posted by MDawson (Post 8178510)

Is there anyone else out there who as recently returned to the UK from Australia, I didn't really like it there , not due to the weather , mainly due to the general attitude to the English by the Australians and the Australian media.

Don't get me wrong not all Aussies have problems with the English , but most appear to look down at the English .

They tend to have a very negative view about my fellow countrymen, all based on the past ?? some Aussies seem to have a two hundred year old memory .