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Escape from Oz
Is there anyone else out there who as recently returned to the UK from Australia, I didn't really like it there , not due to the weather , mainly due to the general attitude to the English by the Australians and the Australian media.
Don't get me wrong not all Aussies have problems with the English , but most appear to look down at the English . They tend to have a very negative view about my fellow countrymen, all based on the past ?? some Aussies seem to have a two hundred year old memory . |
Re: Escape from Oz
Originally Posted by MDawson
(Post 8178510)
Is there anyone else out there who as recently returned to the UK from Australia, I didn't really like it there , not due to the weather , mainly due to the general attitude to the English by the Australians and the Australian media.
Don't get me wrong not all Aussies have problems with the English , but most appear to look down at the English . They tend to have a very negative view about my fellow countrymen, all based on the past ?? some Aussies seem to have a two hundred year old memory . |
Re: Escape from Oz
Originally Posted by MDawson
(Post 8178510)
Is there anyone else out there who as recently returned to the UK from Australia, I didn't really like it there , not due to the weather , mainly due to the general attitude to the English by the Australians and the Australian media.
Don't get me wrong not all Aussies have problems with the English , but most appear to look down at the English . They tend to have a very negative view about my fellow countrymen, all based on the past ?? some Aussies seem to have a two hundred year old memory . they were a bit shocked when she informed them that her ancestors stayed in England and let the aborigines alone and that it was their ancestors who came to Australia and slaughtered aboriginals not hers they insisted it was you Brits she insisted her ancestors were farmers in England and had nothing to do with Australia. mind they were pineapple packers so maybe not too bright I have a shop assistant who regularly tells me to go home and when I tell her I am home gets all shirty but mostly Aussies accept me for who I am just as I accept them for who they are the minority are ignorant and ignorable |
Re: Escape from Oz
Originally Posted by MDawson
(Post 8178510)
Is there anyone else out there who as recently returned to the UK from Australia, I didn't really like it there , not due to the weather , mainly due to the general attitude to the English by the Australians and the Australian media.
Don't get me wrong not all Aussies have problems with the English , but most appear to look down at the English . They tend to have a very negative view about my fellow countrymen, all based on the past ?? some Aussies seem to have a two hundred year old memory . |
Re: Escape from Oz
Originally Posted by MDawson
(Post 8178510)
Is there anyone else out there who as recently returned to the UK from Australia, I didn't really like it there , not due to the weather , mainly due to the general attitude to the English by the Australians and the Australian media.
Don't get me wrong not all Aussies have problems with the English , but most appear to look down at the English . They tend to have a very negative view about my fellow countrymen, all based on the past ?? some Aussies seem to have a two hundred year old memory . They seem to live in their own little bubble, thinking they live in the best country in the world, which if you question them by pointing out how crap something is or a better way something could be done they cannot handle it. They act like a child whos toys have been stolen. I am sure you will get some reactions like that from aussies on this topic in this forum, they seem to like to troll here and ignore the whole british expats banner at the top. |
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They seem to live in their own little bubble, thinking they live in the best country in the world, which if you question them by pointing out how crap something is or a better way something could be done they cannot handle it. They act like a child whos toys have been stolen. |
Re: Escape from Oz
Originally Posted by tartantopgun
(Post 8178643)
Do you not sense the irony of that post? :lol:
Oz is what you make of it - if you let a small minority cloud the big picture then the fault is not with Australians |
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What a load of BS :-( An English person moaning about being treated badly on account of them being English, is not an alien concept. They have systematically as a nation oppressed and bullied countless countries over a very long time with exactly that ethic. Even on a lighter note, rampaging across resorts the length and breadth of Europe, with the anti social obnoxious behavior. Not saying us Scots are immune to that kind of behavior, however, we seem to 'get along' with the locals a lot better than out southern cousins. That was my reference to the irony of their post. It had no reference to Australia, or Australians. Catch ma drift? :blink: |
Re: Escape from Oz
Originally Posted by MDawson
(Post 8178510)
Is there anyone else out there who as recently returned to the UK from Australia, I didn't really like it there , not due to the weather , mainly due to the general attitude to the English by the Australians and the Australian media.
Don't get me wrong not all Aussies have problems with the English , but most appear to look down at the English . They tend to have a very negative view about my fellow countrymen, all based on the past ?? some Aussies seem to have a two hundred year old memory . |
Re: Escape from Oz
Originally Posted by tartantopgun
(Post 8178682)
Not saying us Scots are immune to that kind of behavior, however, we seem to 'get along' with the locals a lot better than out southern cousins.
There are minorities of almost all nationalities that have similar problems, but many also can't see that it is only a minority. ;) |
Re: Escape from Oz
Originally Posted by MDawson
(Post 8178510)
Is there anyone else out there who as recently returned to the UK from Australia, I didn't really like it there , not due to the weather , mainly due to the general attitude to the English by the Australians and the Australian media.
Don't get me wrong not all Aussies have problems with the English , but most appear to look down at the English . They tend to have a very negative view about my fellow countrymen, all based on the past ?? some Aussies seem to have a two hundred year old memory . |
Re: Escape from Oz
Originally Posted by tartantopgun
(Post 8178682)
You missed my point in your unique eloquent manner.
An English person moaning about being treated badly on account of them being English, is not an alien concept. They have systematically as a nation oppressed and bullied countless countries over a very long time with exactly that ethic. Even on a lighter note, rampaging across resorts the length and breadth of Europe, with the anti social obnoxious behavior. Not saying us Scots are immune to that kind of behavior, however, we seem to 'get along' with the locals a lot better than out southern cousins. That was my reference to the irony of their post. It had no reference to Australia, or Australians. Catch ma drift? :blink: |
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This thread has the makings of a classic handbag fight:lol:
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Re: Escape from Oz
Originally Posted by kporte
(Post 8178813)
Scots have an 800 year memory. Aussie lightweights;)
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Re: Escape from Oz
Originally Posted by dave99
(Post 8178615)
I have noticed this to, often I feel like a second class citizen. Some of them look down on english people and if you ever dare to question anything australian you get the kneejerk reaction 'why dont you piss of back to england then'
They seem to live in their own little bubble, thinking they live in the best country in the world, which if you question them by pointing out how crap something is or a better way something could be done they cannot handle it. They act like a child whos toys have been stolen. I am sure you will get some reactions like that from aussies on this topic in this forum, they seem to like to troll here and ignore the whole british expats banner at the top. They are the school bully who can dish it out (notice how much the Aussies like to take the piss out of other nationalities/ethnicities and call them unflattering nicknames) but if some criticism or humour is directed at them they generally (I am sure there are exceptions blah, blah, blah) seem to respond like a kid at school who goes to pieces when his hostile behaviour is turned back on him. My father-in-law will defend Australia to the cows come home and gets visibly troubled by any criticism of it. At some point in history someone decided that it's politically incorrect to criticise Australia. Telling an Aussie that you don't like something about Australia is like telling a staunch Catholic that you don't believe in God. |
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A lot of Ozzies are plain old racist. My wife is Peruvian and last Peruvian independance day we got together in a park for a bbq. We decorated the area with a combination of Peruvian flags and Australian flags, but we had people walking past saying some pretty derogatory remarks.
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Re: Escape from Oz
Originally Posted by dave99
(Post 8178615)
I have noticed this to, often I feel like a second class citizen. Some of them look down on english people and if you ever dare to question anything australian you get the kneejerk reaction 'why dont you piss of back to england then'
They seem to live in their own little bubble, thinking they live in the best country in the world, which if you question them by pointing out how crap something is or a better way something could be done they cannot handle it. They act like a child whos toys have been stolen. The circles some people seem to move in...it's like their workplace is at the level of the local primary school...or the factory floor.. ... the CEO of one of Australia's Big 4 Banks is a Pom. I wonder how he copes sometimes! |
Re: Escape from Oz
Originally Posted by verystormy
(Post 8178850)
A lot of Ozzies are plain old racist. My wife is Peruvian and last Peruvian independance day we got together in a park for a bbq. We decorated the area with a combination of Peruvian flags and Australian flags, but we had people walking past saying some pretty derogatory remarks.
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Re: Escape from Oz
Originally Posted by Catch
(Post 8178839)
lot of irish and scots have chips on their shoulders about english,so they should be the last ones to moan about aussies:thumbup:
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Re: Escape from Oz
Originally Posted by mono
(Post 8178853)
They are often quite xenophobic (perhaps a by-product of their isolation) and they are quite tunnel-visioned in terms of thinking Australia is the best place in the world. They rival the Americans for that kind of thing.
My view is - make choices that steer you away from these people. In my industry, people seem to spend all their time critiqueing themselves and practically beg to be corrected. It can be almost too much...you think - 'yeah yeah. What we did was enough'. |
Re: Escape from Oz
Originally Posted by mono
(Post 8178853)
They are often quite xenophobic (perhaps a by-product of their isolation) and they are quite tunnel-visioned in terms of thinking Australia is the best place in the world. They rival the Americans for that kind of thing.
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Re: Escape from Oz
Originally Posted by kporte
(Post 8178860)
Is this better or worse than constantly running your country down like many Brits do? Serious question.
The former gets you closer to reality than the latter does. |
Re: Escape from Oz
Originally Posted by mono
(Post 8178864)
Worse. I'd rather self-deprecation than arrogance and conceit.
The former gets you closer to reality than the latter does. As for reality, everyone's reality will be different. I don't think Britain is crap and I don't think Australia is the best country in the world. I don't believe it makes you arrogant to love your country either. As usual the Americans get brought in as thick and insular... Bollocks |
Re: Escape from Oz
Originally Posted by kporte
(Post 8178873)
So Britian is shit then? I don't think so. It seems to be only Brits that find pride to be a flaw. The idea that you prefer a largely negative view of your country than a largely positive one, shows this.
As for reality, everyone's reality will be different. I don't think Britain is crap and I don't think Australia is the best country in the world. I don't believe it makes you arrogant to love your country either. As usual the Americans get brought in as thick and insular... Bollocks I simply think that being self-deprecating allows you to see the warts. It gives you a truer vision of things. Being arrogant blinds you to the truth. People think that Australia is close to perfect. That is way more absurd than the moaning people do in the UK. |
Re: Escape from Oz
Originally Posted by verystormy
(Post 8178850)
A lot of Ozzies are plain old racist. My wife is Peruvian and last Peruvian independance day we got together in a park for a bbq. We decorated the area with a combination of Peruvian flags and Australian flags, but we had people walking past saying some pretty derogatory remarks.
What do you expect for barbequeing 'guineapig' in public::D,hope you had a good day though.:thumbup: |
Re: Escape from Oz
Originally Posted by mono
(Post 8178890)
NO! Britain is NOT shit! Didn't say that or imply it!
I simply think that being self-deprecating allows you to see the warts. It gives you a truer vision of things. Being arrogant blinds you to the truth. People think that Australia is close to perfect. That is way more absurd than the moaning people do in the UK. |
Re: Escape from Oz
Originally Posted by dave99
(Post 8179004)
This more self-deprecating attitude at least allows people to see whats wrong and say, this thing is crap lets fix it or find a better way of doing it, improving things. Its much better than walking round with blinkers on thinking everythings perfect
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Re: Escape from Oz
Originally Posted by tartantopgun
(Post 8178682)
You missed my point in your unique eloquent manner.
An English person moaning about being treated badly on account of them being English, is not an alien concept. They have systematically as a nation oppressed and bullied countless countries over a very long time with exactly that ethic. Even on a lighter note, rampaging across resorts the length and breadth of Europe, with the anti social obnoxious behavior. Not saying us Scots are immune to that kind of behavior, however, we seem to 'get along' with the locals a lot better than out southern cousins. That was my reference to the irony of their post. It had no reference to Australia, or Australians. Catch ma drift? :blink: Do you think you should be held responsible for something you read in the news even though you had no involvement. I dont catch your drift |
Re: Escape from Oz
Originally Posted by MDawson
(Post 8178510)
Is there anyone else out there who as recently returned to the UK from Australia, I didn't really like it there , not due to the weather , mainly due to the general attitude to the English by the Australians and the Australian media.
Don't get me wrong not all Aussies have problems with the English , but most appear to look down at the English . They tend to have a very negative view about my fellow countrymen, all based on the past ?? some Aussies seem to have a two hundred year old memory . The nuclear testing in the 1950's, and so on |
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Re: Escape from Oz
Originally Posted by mono
(Post 8178853)
They are often quite xenophobic (perhaps a by-product of their isolation) and they are quite tunnel-visioned in terms of thinking Australia is the best place in the world. They rival the Americans for that kind of thing.
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Re: Escape from Oz
Originally Posted by MDawson
(Post 8179098)
It's now very apparent that Aussies are insular and arrogant , sounds like Nazi Germany just before the war ? bit of a worry.
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Relax guys, its just one of common problems of every multicultural societies around the world like US, Canada, UK.
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Our little friend is back it seems, and on form too! ;) |
Re: Escape from Oz
Originally Posted by Alfresco
(Post 8179164)
Why do I get this overwhelming feeling of Déjà vu?
Our little friend is back it seems, and on form too! ;) |
Re: Escape from Oz
Originally Posted by MDawson
(Post 8179098)
It's now very apparent that Aussies are insular and arrogant , sounds like Nazi Germany just before the war ? bit of a worry.
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Re: Escape from Oz
Originally Posted by dave99
(Post 8179016)
I havent oppressed or bullied any nations, nor have I ever rampaged accross resorts, theres a lot of things in history I never did that I dont think an aussie should treat me as a second class citizen for.
Do you think you should be held responsible for something you read in the news even though you had no involvement. I dont catch your drift |
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biggest problem ive had from the aussies is them being to helpfull:thumbup:
had no issues at all, only people ive met who arnt happy are the brits who dont like it here, beats me why you would stay if your not happy, anyway ive had the piss taken out of me at work and ive dished it out, had no problems at all. john |
Re: Escape from Oz
Originally Posted by WillBlack
(Post 8179202)
Avoid the showers.
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