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Old Jul 22nd 2003 | 8:24 am
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Old Jul 22nd 2003 | 8:29 am
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PB and Wilf, one for you I think?!!!!
 
Old Jul 22nd 2003 | 8:41 am
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We are all desperate to get out of the UK !!! This time last year we were preparing our TRA...... now we are awaiting the visa grant after the bond request Jul 2nd. The amount of people that have come up to both myself and hubby and asked how do you do go about emigrating is unbelievable. This forum is a good place to start.

My advice is to get on the phone tomorrow to Go Matilda (web site www.gomatilda.co.uk) and see if you have enough points to go down under. If your serious about emigrating, you'll take the plunge. Apparently only 5% of people wanting to emigrate have enough points and go through with the big move.

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You know, we thought long and hard about getting out. We've been to Oz twice in the last two years for 4 weeks each time and have covered Sydney, Melbourne, Adelaide, Brisbane, Cairns and a quick stop in Darwin. I see this country disolving into something I no longer care to be part of. I live on the beautiful South Coast (Poole) and have a decent standard of living but I look at my girls aged 10 & 8 and wonder how the hell they will survive here. What sort of jobs and wage will they need to afford even the most basic standard of living and home.
Fortunately our TRA is approved and we have points to spare. I will hate to leave family & friends and in fact my country but I'm happy to go and be a Aussie and hopefully give my kids (and us) a less stressed and a better family life.

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Thanks for your reply Jo. Can you tell us how you started the process and any tips you can offer. We will be applying for Oz via the skilled work visa. We have been to quite a few places in the world due to working on cruise ships but have never been to Australia. We are just taking a chance and fancy Perth. Have you been there?
 
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Yeah, We initially did an on-line test with Go Matilda (been recommended) and were going skilled independant. Steve is a Carpenter. Glenn Newton at Go Matilda is an absolute star. Told us what we had to get together for the TRA and how to go about it. He's ex immigration officer! The Tra was a bit of a trial. 237 bits of paper later, paperwork dating back to 1987 and all having to be signed and certified by a Solicitor but we managed it. While we were waiting for the TRA my brother who lives in Adelaide got his permanent visa so we switched to family sponsored. Now we get extra points and don't have to cough up $100,000AU to the government for two years. So our Visa application went in this week and we're in for the long wait. We chose Go Matilda cos they are in Southampton and close by, also my cousin used them and said they were good. Its been expensive but worth it for the help, I don't think we'd have managed the TRA without them. Steve having been self employed since 87 then running a limited company since 96, we would never have got the paperwork together without help. Hope this helps. Jo
 
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You need to ask Pommie Bastard what Perth is like!!!!!!
 
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Thanks Jo, Im looking at Matilda site now and think its quite good. Think we will start ball rolling! Cheers for your help. If you think of anything that will help us along the way let us know
Lorraine and Steve-Derbyshire.
 
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Originally posted by steve-n-jo
You know, we thought long and hard about getting out. We've been to Oz twice in the last two years for 4 weeks each time and have covered Sydney, Melbourne, Adelaide, Brisbane, Cairns and a quick stop in Darwin. I see this country disolving into something I no longer care to be part of. I live on the beautiful South Coast (Poole) and have a decent standard of living but I look at my girls aged 10 & 8 and wonder how the hell they will survive here. What sort of jobs and wage will they need to afford even the most basic standard of living and home.
Fortunately our TRA is approved and we have points to spare. I will hate to leave family & friends and in fact my country but I'm happy to go and be a Aussie and hopefully give my kids (and us) a less stressed and a better family life.

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You'll be doing the opposite of what you want. Both my kids were born in Oz and have moved back to the UK for their careers (they are university educated). This is extremely common - all clever ozzie kids leave for job opportuinities, and this will get more and more the case in the future. Work opportunities in Oz are limited, especially if your kids become educated people, and your chances of being a victim of crime are higher in Oz not lower. Hard as it seems to believe, Oz is a worse country for quality of life, future prospects, and crime than the UK once you live here and know the day-to-day reality. You will spend little time with your kids due to long hours, your holiday allowance will be 3 weeks per year, and the low wages, high house prices, little time off, and general feeling of missing out on "life" by being in such a godforsaken place, will make you more stressed, not less.
 
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Originally posted by Wilf
You'll be doing the opposite of what you want. Both my kids were born in Oz and have moved back to the UK for their careers (they are university educated). This is extremely common - all clever ozzie kids leave for job opportuinities, and this will get more and more the case in the future. Work opportunities in Oz are limited, especially if your kids become educated people, and your chances of being a victim of crime are higher in Oz not lower. Hard as it seems to believe, Oz is a worse country for quality of life, future prospects, and crime than the UK once you live here and know the day-to-day reality. You will spend little time with your kids due to long hours, your holiday allowance will be 3 weeks per year, and the low wages, high house prices, little time off, and general feeling of missing out on "life" by being in such a godforsaken place, will make you more stressed, not less.
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You reside in gods zone?

My values belong in another time zone and another geographical zone, it is true I am afraid to say.
 
Old Jul 22nd 2003 | 7:03 pm
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Personally I dont think we can ever give a better gift to our children to have the freedom to live in the best two countries in the world. They will choose later on in life and if my three boys come back to the UK then so be it. Most Ozzys come over here to make a quick buck, learn about the country, maybe find a wife and go back to OZ.
 
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Originally posted by Wilf
You'll be doing the opposite of what you want. Both my kids were born in Oz and have moved back to the UK for their careers (they are university educated). This is extremely common - all clever ozzie kids leave for job opportuinities, and this will get more and more the case in the future. Work opportunities in Oz are limited, especially if your kids become educated people, and your chances of being a victim of crime are higher in Oz not lower. Hard as it seems to believe, Oz is a worse country for quality of life, future prospects, and crime than the UK once you live here and know the day-to-day reality. You will spend little time with your kids due to long hours, your holiday allowance will be 3 weeks per year, and the low wages, high house prices, little time off, and general feeling of missing out on "life" by being in such a godforsaken place, will make you more stressed, not less.
As one who left the UK partly (and this was very high on my list of reasons) to give my children a "better life", I have to agree wholeheartly with you Wilf. What you say is VERY TRUE.

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Originally posted by wolfens_wife
Personally I dont think we can ever give a better gift to our children to have the freedom to live in the best two countries in the world. They will choose later on in life and if my three boys come back to the UK then so be it. Most Ozzys come over here to make a quick buck, learn about the country, maybe find a wife and go back to OZ.
I agree

one of the reasons my husband and I have decided to make the move is that we can see emigration rules tightening, and feel that we will be amongst one of the last generations who find it easy to move out of the UK. Our kids will have the benefits of choice, being both UK and AUS citizens (when they are born). This means that regardless of the emigration rules at that time they will have the choice of where to live and work.

Of course there are other reasons we are moving, many of which are entirely selfish. But this is I feel not a bad thing, as we have to live our lives for ourselves too.

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