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Re: Does Australia suffer from inferiority-complex?
Originally Posted by BadgeIsBack
(Post 9237733)
Actually, I feel that this is part of an Australian superiority complex.
I feel that a lot of Australians know that they are largely a popular country to visit and like to revel in it a bit. I think it is more of a case of Australians wanting to believe that they are largely a popular country and need external validation. Like a lot of expats really. |
Re: Does Australia suffer from inferiority-complex?
lol
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Re: Does Australia suffer from inferiority-complex?
Originally Posted by BadgeIsBack
(Post 9237733)
Controversial as always, I know:
Actually, I feel that this is part of an Australian superiority complex. I feel that a lot of Australians know that they are largely a popular country to visit and like to revel in it a bit. It's a bit of a joke. Remember - they are the ones who have to listen to the likes of British expats gushing about how 'lovely' it all is. They are the ones who have to constantly listen to people tell them how laid-back it all seems. When I get visitors I ask the same question - this is because I know that there is every chance they will LOVE the same old things that I loved in turn when I first got off the boat.... ...the pace of life...weather...etc the effing penguins down on Philip Island..(strike that one out...) In my experience, people tend to conveniently not say anything when they know they have underachieved. I mean, if I lived in a shite-hole, do you think I would draw attention to the fact? Just my 2c. |
Re: Does Australia suffer from inferiority-complex?
Originally Posted by BadgeIsBack
(Post 9237733)
In my experience, people tend to conveniently not say anything when they know they have underachieved. I mean, if I lived in a shite-hole, do you think I would draw attention to the fact? Just my 2c.
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Re: Does Australia suffer from inferiority-complex?
>>In my experience, people tend to conveniently not say anything when they know they have underachieved. I mean, if I lived in a shite-hole, do you think I would draw attention to the fact? Just my 2c.<<
Very true - it's the lemon effect. (Those who have bought a dog of a car tend to be reluctant to criticise it because they feel it might reflect on their judgement.) |
Re: Does Australia suffer from inferiority-complex?
Originally Posted by Deancm_MKII
(Post 9237997)
Surely you jest.
I think it is more of a case of Australians wanting to believe that they are largely a popular country and need external validation. Like a lot of expats really. What I see as important is that Australia is different to many other places people visit. Most Australians realise this. It's not the US, it's not Paris. It's not Slovenia. It's not Austria. It's on the other side of the world. That is all, really. If Australia was populated by 100m Indonesians, or 100m Asians, there would be no comparison. The fact is that Australia is a Western country out in the corner and it holds a fascination with people all over the world. The only expats that need validation are the ignorant ones who are too stupid to realise that you can't transport Little England out to Little Australia and expect it to work. |
Re: Does Australia suffer from inferiority-complex?
Originally Posted by Wol
(Post 9238096)
>>In my experience, people tend to conveniently not say anything when they know they have underachieved. I mean, if I lived in a shite-hole, do you think I would draw attention to the fact? Just my 2c.<<
Very true - it's the lemon effect. (Those who have bought a dog of a car tend to be reluctant to criticise it because they feel it might reflect on their judgement.) It's a means of transport. EDIT - Wol. On Dean's subject of expat validation - it's occured to why so many expats with poor judgement love giving this very fact away? I sometimes wonder if they wish they had heard of the 'Lemon' effect... |
Re: Does Australia suffer from inferiority-complex?
Originally Posted by BadgeIsBack
(Post 9238103)
No - I don't jest. Why do Australians need to feel they are popular?
They have a standard of living that many people in the West have always sought. It would be churlish to suggest otherwise. What I see as important is that Australia is different to many other places people visit. Most Australians realise this. It's not the US, it's not Paris. It's not Slovenia. It's not Austria. It's on the other side of the world. That is all, really. If Australia was populated by 100m Indonesians, or 100m Asians, there would be no comparison. The fact is that Australia is a Western country out in the corner and it holds a fascination with people all over the world. The only expats that need validation are the ignorant ones who are too stupid to realise that you can't transport Little England out to Little Australia and expect it to work. |
Re: Does Australia suffer from inferiority-complex?
Originally Posted by Deancm_MKII
(Post 9238124)
Because from a global perspective they are insignificant, irrespective of the standard of living (which is going downhill everyday mind you and will be obliterated if this carbon price comes into being).
Originally Posted by Deancm_MKII
(Post 9238124)
So Australians should be proud of the fact that Australia's main differentiator is that it is on the other side of the world?
Originally Posted by Deancm_MKII
(Post 9238124)
No the expats that need validation are the ones that are convincing themselves that they made the right decision to make the move to Australia. Godzoners come to mind. I don't see what the rest of the people happy with the move need to worry about. |
Re: Does Australia suffer from inferiority-complex?
Originally Posted by Wol
(Post 9238096)
>>In my experience, people tend to conveniently not say anything when they know they have underachieved. I mean, if I lived in a shite-hole, do you think I would draw attention to the fact? Just my 2c.<<
Very true - it's the lemon effect. (Those who have bought a dog of a car tend to be reluctant to criticise it because they feel it might reflect on their judgement.) |
Re: Does Australia suffer from inferiority-complex?
Originally Posted by Rambi
(Post 9238203)
This also drives the some of the myths on here. If someone has bought a piece of crap they are not going to tell people it was a bad decision they are going to say it's the fault of the country.
Ultimately the validation works when someone is happy with their lot. It's around this time I start offering advice to migrants. Look at the people who have done very well in Australia. Look at the people who have not done so well in Australia. There are established patterns. If you can reproduce it, then come. If you can't, and I'm not so sure it's getting any easy to reproduce - then don't. The success comes to those who don't follow the common denominator, and even then there is no guarantee. I know for a fact that a few simple, duff decisions could have spelled out unhappiness. I said to Dean a few weeks ago that the 80/20 rule applies. My general advice is 'don't come'. My specific advice is available by PM... |
Re: Does Australia suffer from inferiority-complex?
Originally Posted by BadgeIsBack
(Post 9238219)
Ultimately the validation works when someone is happy with their lot.
a) they are unsure and the validation helps to put their mind at ease b) They are trying to convince themselves. I said to Dean a few weeks ago that the 80/20 rule applies. My general advice is 'don't come'. My specific advice is available by PM... |
Re: Does Australia suffer from inferiority-complex?
I think we should look at superiority complexes as they seem more relevant to this forum. ;)
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Re: Does Australia suffer from inferiority-complex?
Originally Posted by fish.01
(Post 9238314)
I think we should look at superiority complexes as they seem more relevant to this forum. ;)
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Re: Does Australia suffer from inferiority-complex?
Originally Posted by fish.01
(Post 9238314)
I think we should look at superiority complexes as they seem more relevant to this forum. ;)
I don't have a superiority complex, I have a God complex and so does my wife. Stick that one in ya pipe... |
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