Re: Does Australia suffer from inferiority-complex?
 

Not at all anymore.

Re: Does Australia suffer from inferiority-complex?
 

Australian govt gives PNG about half a billion dollars a year in aid.

Re: Does Australia suffer from inferiority-complex?
 

Thank you.

Re: Does Australia suffer from inferiority-complex?
 

My point was (and still is) that it's easier to get on a plane than to come by land and sea (and this has been shown in many books). So it's irrelevant that Indonesia neighbours Aus. You disagree and Vegemite went off on a tangent. I'll leave you to it.

Re: Does Australia suffer from inferiority-complex?
 

Not for an illegal immigrant... :p

Re: Does Australia suffer from inferiority-complex?
 

Yes, it's easier to come by aircraft if everything is above board. That doesn't mean it cannot be done by other means if you want to avoid certain authorities.

Re: Does Australia suffer from inferiority-complex?
 

Just come as a visitor and stay - easy, happens all the time. Or you could hike through the jungle if you prefer.

Re: Does Australia suffer from inferiority-complex?
 

When you come as a visitor there is usually a record of you entering the country. So they will be looking for you...

Hiking through the jungle is a bit more adventurous. I'd prefer to sail across in a yacht.

Re: Does Australia suffer from inferiority-complex?
 

Hardly a tangent.:confused: The whole discussion was initiated because THR mentioned that Indonesia is Australia's northern neighbour. I think its very relevant to point out Sydney to Jakarta is not an accurate assessment of the physical proximity of the landmasses of the two countries and that other parts of Australia are geographically much closer to Indonesia. That's a physical fact and has nothing to do where the majority of the population of each country lives or how difficult or easy it is to travel across the border from PNG to West Papua


Indonesia is the main jump off points for the people smugglers. Why? cos its physically close to Australia? Oops no, silly me, Sydney is long way from Jakarta so it cant be that. Must be some other reason that the smugglers use Indonesia as the start point for the dash to Australia. Perhaps you can enlighten me as to what it might be?

Re: Does Australia suffer from inferiority-complex?
 

Telling me that Sydney was not Australia sounded like a tangent to me. And still does. :rolleyes:

And then telling me that Perth and Darwin are (still) a long way from Jakarta didn't exactly counter my point. Although Aus and Indonesia are neighbours the distance is still large compared to other neighbouring countries. Yes silly me for suggesting that it's not that easy to get from Indonesia to Aus on the surface. It must be like a day trip for those pesky boat people.

The original question was why there are not many Indonesians in Australia. I was just pointing out that the distances involved are much larger than those found between other neighbouring countries and does not exactly facilitate easy migration. The question in no way mentioned illegals or boat people but here you are telling me that it's a short hop for them. Instead of asking me what I meant you went somewhere else. Sounds like a tangent to me.

Indonesia is one of the closest countries to Aus but it is not really close. And the bit that is closest (West Papua) is not the bit where many people live. It's also not where the Muslims live and it's not where the boat people start from. Here's another similar example. How close are the US and Russia? 3 miles. Why don't you get more people travelling between the US and Russia if it is only 3 miles apart.

Re: Does Australia suffer from inferiority-complex?
 

Because Sarah Palin can see them coming from her hoose.

Re: Does Australia suffer from inferiority-complex?
 

Steps back and waits for Dean to tell you that Sarah Palin can't be everywhere :lol:

Re: Does Australia suffer from inferiority-complex?
 

Not so. The closest country to Australia is Papua New Guinea and from the most northerly point in Australia to the most Southerly point of PNG, it is less than 100nm. Easily done by boat or light aircraft. Port Moresby is only 295nm.

West Papua on the other hand, closest point to point is 150nm.

Re: Does Australia suffer from inferiority-complex?
 

Thank Christ for that!

(For the record, it's more like 50nm between the US and Russia)

Re: Does Australia suffer from inferiority-complex?
 

I think you need to re-read what I wrote before you say "Not so".

I wrote "one of the closest" because it is not the closest. ;) PNG is not part of Indonesia.