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Dreamy Aug 2nd 2011 7:50 pm

Re: census,2011
 

Originally Posted by DeadVim (Post 9534352)
Did someone speak? :D

Who's going to give you all your karma if you're mean to me?

Bermudashorts Aug 2nd 2011 8:02 pm

Re: census,2011
 

Originally Posted by northernbird (Post 9534497)
I thought you were all being a bit silly until I got my form today. It is definitely more intrusive than 5 years ago. I am not sure they need to know how much my mortgage payments are!

I also don't / didn't really understand why some people have a problem with filling in a census. I don't believe that such an exercise is carried out without good reason and I don't really mind reporting what my rent is or what I earn.

The question that surprised me was the name and address of my employer, I cannot see how my employers name will help the government identify trends and plan for the future.

DeadVim Aug 2nd 2011 8:06 pm

Re: census,2011
 

Originally Posted by Dreamy (Post 9534627)
Who's going to give you all your karma if you're mean to me?

Fair point, I'm off to look at the census that has just been delivered and get all indignant about it.

IvanM Aug 2nd 2011 8:10 pm

Re: census,2011
 
It is a strange one.

The ATO takes the aggregated data to compare the nations tax declared income to the census income. It tells the ATO how bad they are doing but not who is fiddling.


Originally Posted by Bermudashorts (Post 9534667)
I also don't / didn't really understand why some people have a problem with filling in a census. I don't believe that such an exercise is carried out without good reason and I don't really mind reporting what my rent is or what I earn.

The question that surprised me was the name and address of my employer, I cannot see how my employers name will help the government identify trends and plan for the future.


IvanM Aug 2nd 2011 8:13 pm

Re: census,2011
 
Are you from tunbridge wells?

Originally Posted by DeadVim (Post 9534674)
Fair point, I'm off to look at the census that has just been delivered and get all indignant about it.


DeadVim Aug 2nd 2011 8:16 pm

Re: census,2011
 

Originally Posted by IvanM (Post 9534690)
Are you from tunbridge wells?

I've worked there.

Sincerely,
Disgruntled
(Do you ever hear of anyone being gruntled?)

IvanM Aug 2nd 2011 8:18 pm

Re: census,2011
 
In or out of bed?

Originally Posted by DeadVim (Post 9534693)
I've worked there.

Sincerely,
Disgruntled
(Do you ever hear of anyone being gruntled?)


Rambi Aug 2nd 2011 8:29 pm

Re: census,2011
 
I think someone asked earlier why they ask for one's name.

I believe they found that more people lie if they don't give their name to the point that the purpose of the census gets corrupted.

Rambi Aug 2nd 2011 8:31 pm

Re: census,2011
 

Originally Posted by DeadVim (Post 9534693)
I've worked there.

Sincerely,
Disgruntled
(Do you ever hear of anyone being gruntled?)

No. But apparently it is a proper word. :blink:

moneypenny20 Aug 2nd 2011 11:10 pm

Re: census,2011
 
I thought I'd be smart and put that I was unemployed on the 10th but then the buggers asked if I'd been working the previous week :blink::lol: It did occur to me to lie throughout but then I wondered why bother. I didn't tell 'them' anything 'they' don't already know. They didn't ask what I had for dinner last night, s'all good.:D

paulry Aug 4th 2011 4:10 pm

Re: census,2011
 

Originally Posted by Rambi (Post 9534720)
I think someone asked earlier why they ask for one's name.

I believe they found that more people lie if they don't give their name to the point that the purpose of the census gets corrupted.

And also, how else will our descendants find us?

Rambi Aug 4th 2011 4:12 pm

Re: census,2011
 

Originally Posted by paulry (Post 9538833)
And also, how else will our descendants find us?

There's that. Although isn't it the default option on the Aus census to have the info destroyed? :unsure:

paulry Aug 4th 2011 4:43 pm

Re: census,2011
 

Originally Posted by Rambi (Post 9538837)
There's that. Although isn't it the default option on the Aus census to have the info destroyed? :unsure:

That would be a shame. I haven't properly looked at the form yet but I just assumed that it would pretty much the same way as in the UK. Something like the individual identities being made available after 100 years or so.

Rambi Aug 4th 2011 5:05 pm

Re: census,2011
 

Originally Posted by paulry (Post 9538856)
That would be a shame. I haven't properly looked at the form yet but I just assumed that it would pretty much the same way as in the UK. Something like the individual identities being made available after 100 years or so.

Not that long ago it was all destroyed but I think in recent times you can opt to have your data stored and released in 99 years.

AlliF Aug 4th 2011 7:05 pm

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Just looking at the form now - it could be an identity thieves christmas round here!!!:ohmy: If you go paper-based how do you know the person rocking up to collect forms is genuine and can be trusted?
I didn't get a privacy envelope either - form was hanging out of the letterbox. Wouldn't have thought it was that difficult for someone to knock up some sort of fake ID then just go round and scoop up forms on the appropriate day.:frown:
Also confused as to why they need employers addresses. Started but couldn't complete the form online without hubs here as i have no idea what his work actual address is(or for that matter what his duties are - geeky engineer stuff probably isnt what they were after really...:huh: )


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