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Re: Cane Toads
Originally Posted by Welsh Jeff
(Post 7067316)
Frog watch i've been doing that ever since my daughter started dating a French fella!
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Re: Cane Toads
Originally Posted by Welsh Jeff
(Post 7067316)
Frog watch i've been doing that ever since my daughter started dating a French fella!
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Re: Cane Toads
Originally Posted by spartacus
(Post 7067333)
Aaah French . . . . the language of love!
Same thing with cats, rabbits etc. They are now part of the Australian fauna and there is nothing anyone can do about it. The original Australian fauna either competes or goes extinct. 'Twas ever thus. |
Re: Cane Toads
Originally Posted by Burbage
(Post 7068084)
Anyone who thinks that killing a few cane toads is going to have any impact on their population is in cloud cuckoo land. I evicted one from the house the other day. Let it go into the garden. I could have killed it, but there are about a million in the surrounding square km and one of them would simply move in to replace it.
Same thing with cats, rabbits etc. They are now part of the Australian fauna and there is nothing anyone can do about it. The original Australian fauna either competes or goes extinct. 'Twas ever thus. |
Re: Cane Toads
Originally Posted by TiddlyPom
(Post 7068314)
Exactly my point re finding the eggs. That's what you need to concentrate on if you have any chance of getting the numbers down.
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Re: Cane Toads
I wasn't referring to you specifically, I said "those who believe in the rights of all animals to live". I also made no reference to any torture of animlas never mind whether or not people who do not believe in torture are or are not less concerned about indigenous wildlife. I have therefore not reached the conclusion you imply.
Further I made no comment on the relative benefits of the type of death on the environment. Clealry there is no actual differnence on the environmental impact (beyond the individual toad) on how a toad is killed. My point was simply that more people are willing to kill toads by means other than freezing; that clealry leads to more toads being killed than would otherwise. I suggest if you want to make an argument that you stick to debating points actually made rather than choosing to argue about something that wasn't stated.
Originally Posted by TiddlyPom
(Post 7059717)
How odd you think that just because I believe in not torturing animals and giving them a better death, makes me less concerned for the indigenous wildlife.
How have you reached that conclusion exactly? And your second point, how will collecting 100 toads a night and putting them to death through kinder methods do less than someone willing to bash 100 toads over the head? Can you tell me exactly what advantage to animal welfare this has? I'm struggling to see your point so perhaps you can enlighten us all. |
Re: Cane Toads
Quick question: Who would win a fight between a cane toad and a huntsman spider :confused:
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Re: Cane Toads
Originally Posted by jayr
(Post 7074122)
I wasn't referring to you specifically, I said "those who believe in the rights of all animals to live". I also made no reference to any torture of animlas never mind whether or not people who do not believe in torture are or are not less concerned about indigenous wildlife. I have therefore not reached the conclusion you imply.
Further I made no comment on the relative benefits of the type of death on the environment. Clealry there is no actual differnence on the environmental impact (beyond the individual toad) on how a toad is killed. My point was simply that more people are willing to kill toads by means other than freezing; that clealry leads to more toads being killed than would otherwise. I suggest if you want to make an argument that you stick to debating points actually made rather than choosing to argue about something that wasn't stated. Salt sounds good but it would cost a fortune to dispose of the amount a good golf club can handle a club would never wear out if used correctly. Plus you can save on the cost of golf balls, lol......... |
Re: Cane Toads
Originally Posted by Burbage
(Post 7073751)
So you think you can find every pool of water in north Queensland and NT during the wet season? Good luck.
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Re: Cane Toads
Originally Posted by krunchynutt
(Post 7074158)
I would not bother with this one m8, your gonna end up in a massive argument with her, have you seen the previous posts. She is a toad loving activist, she seems to think a good freezing is a better death than an instant clubbing with a no3 wood.
Salt sounds good but it would cost a fortune to dispose of the amount a good golf club can handle a club would never wear out if used correctly. Plus you can save on the cost of golf balls, lol......... :rofl::rofl::rofl: |
Re: Cane Toads
Originally Posted by Lord Lionheart
(Post 7074140)
Quick question: Who would win a fight between a cane toad and a huntsman spider :confused:
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Re: Cane Toads
Originally Posted by jayr
(Post 7074122)
I wasn't referring to you specifically, I said "those who believe in the rights of all animals to live".
My point was simply that more people are willing to kill toads by means other than freezing; that clealry leads to more toads being killed than would otherwise. I suggest if you want to make an argument that you stick to debating points actually made rather than choosing to argue about something that wasn't stated. You've just avoided them totally and called into question my arguing ability, which is all very well and good but leaves things unanswered. |
Re: Cane Toads
Originally Posted by ray2gill
(Post 7056893)
Just filled our pool up and waiting for everything to settle and so far we have rescued 5 toads in 12 hours.
We have looked on the internet and they are Cane Toads which are supposed to be killed - what is the most humanitarian way? We could put a severely injured animal out of its misery but to kill a perfectly healthy animal is something I really have a problem with. Is there anyway to prevent other small creatures getting in the pool which won't make the pool fencing look worse than it will do when installed. We still have temporary fencing up at the moment. Any suggestions appreciated. |
Re: Cane Toads
Originally Posted by NJJ
(Post 7074478)
I heard about a year ago that Coopers (so possibly SA only) were sponsoring handing in of cane toads to be killed humanely. They were offering 1 beer per toad handed in. Didn't hear how well the project is running / ran though.
Cane toads aren't in South Australia. They don't go south of the border. :D |
Re: Cane Toads
Originally Posted by jayr
(Post 7057086)
Cane toads are a serial pest, they are top of their food chain and so displace indigineous wildlife. They may also kill your dog/cat.
You may have qulams about killing them but by rescuing them you are allowing them to kill wildlife that is naturally here. Apaprently catching then freezing is a humane way to kill them. I found that placing a lot of table salt on their back is very effective, others recommend Domestos (and presumably bleach), which may be less humane but as I suggest, you will be doing good for the environment by exterminating cane toads. |
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