Originally Posted by jad n rich

So basically most people need cars even in perth.

Tell ya what vash when you have a couple of toddlers, its 37 in the shade or chucking it down, you have 12 bags of groceries and a 7 year old to get to soccer 12 klms away, then your on the evening shift, but need to cook dinner and fit in a docs appointment before you go try it doing it all by bus :D :D

Originally Posted by Vash the Stampede

The first thing I'd say to someone with a mad schedule like that one, is "Get yourself properly organised. You're trying to cram too much into a single day."

Originally Posted by Hels

See, you all need to move to Bendigo!!

Just got a 766 sqm block for only $63,250 :p



:D

Originally Posted by Tiawamutu

Where the hell's bendigo? :confused:

Originally Posted by jad n rich

Vash you really are quite out of touch with the modern world arn't you :D

Originally Posted by jad n rich

So basically most people need cars even in perth.

Originally Posted by pom plumber

I think I must have done something wrong. Last week I took the kids into town by train from Warwick station. It cost $3.10 per adult and (I think) $1.50 per kid...so $9.20 each way for four of us. So total cost $18.40.

If I'd gone in the car it would have cost us around $5 in parking and about the same in petrol.

And the bloody power was down (this was Friday) and so it took an hour and 15 mins to get into town (normally takes 13 mins apparently.)

Did I do something wrong on the tickets?

Originally Posted by Vash the Stampede

You really are an extraordinarily arrogant and insulting person sometimes. I've seen some real corkers in the past, but this beats most of them.

My answer to your snide little accusation is "No, I am not out of touch with the modern world at all."

My father died when I was sixteen years old, forcing my mother to go out and work for herself and her four children. But you seriously think I don't know what an average working mother's day looks like?

Yeah, right. Think again.

I've also witnessed the working mother's life from another perspective. When I worked at Kingsley Montessori School, I frequently had to wait behind after school hours to look after kids whose parents both worked - and in some cases, were also divorced. Mum would drop the kids off at school in her Saab; Dad would pick them up after school in his BMW.

I will add in passing that some of those kids were among the most neglected I have ever seen.

So you can pontificate all you like, but don't try and tell me that I'm not in touch with the modern world, because that's a load of cobblers.



Well, you're not actually addressing my point here. You certainly haven't contradicted anything I've said, and you've completely shifted the goalposts.

My comments were directly related to the issue of public vs private transport and the logistical efficiency of each.

I know very well that many (if not most) working mothers have a frantic daily schedule, of the sort that you have depicted. But I don't think they'd tackle it in the haphazard and unrealistic way that you've described. I give them far more credit than that.

Let's remember that your original point was:



You then went on to describe a hilariously action-packed scenario, for which you rightly argued that a car would be necessary.

My own point was that in the situation you've described, someone in the UK would also need a car!

That's not an Australia vs. UK thing -it's just plain common bloody sense. :rolleyes:

Originally Posted by Tiawamutu

I was sure this thread was about 'blocks of land in Perth' :confused:

Originally Posted by Amazulu

I'd like to see you try & live in a northern suburb of Perth, say 15-20kms out without a car. You could do it but it would be a pretty bleak existence.
Kalamunda seems to have a fairly frequent bus service into Perth, I've never caught it as it takes twice as long as driving but it seems to be well used.

Originally Posted by bal56

In my book the Northern Suburbs are excellently supplied by cheap public transport compared with the UK. I've go a bus passing the end of the street every half hour (or hour late at night) from something like 5am to 1am, Currambine station's ten minutes walk away. The problem is that modern life is built around the expectation that you have completely flexibility of destination night and day, can up and go at a second's notice, can lug around vast quantities of goods, can take kids to schools a few suburbs away, can take a quick break at a remote beach, and can afford all this by both zooming in your cars to your out of town workplaces. Urban design folows this pattern. You'll never be able to support this lifestyle with public transport. All of this this flexibility comes at a global cost of course, but who cares, it won't affect us too much, or our children, or maybe our childrens' children ... and of course out childrens' childrens' children are a bit distant to get concerned about yet.

Originally Posted by steve99

I often think people confuse public transport with a personal Taxi service....
Although in Perth I think the public transport is way more efficient and reliable than swan taxis, they are shocking.

Originally Posted by Amazulu

I thought the out of hours taxi service in London was bad, than I saw Perth's......