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steve99 May 2nd 2006 6:29 pm

Re: Blocks of Land in Perth
 

Originally Posted by jad n rich
It was 88p in january, so on our scale of rises it should be well over pound a litre now!!

Public transport is OK in most aussie cities, you dont need to go much further out than the inner suburbs tho to find virtually none tho.

We can travel to some friends that live about 55KM away for $4 on public transport. hate to think what that would cost me in the UK :scared:

Surely part of the criteria for choosing to live "out in the sticks" would be that you dont need to utilise public transport isnt it.

Vash the Stampede May 2nd 2006 6:29 pm

Re: Blocks of Land in Perth
 

Originally Posted by jad n rich
Ok vash does public transport in perth go out to the suburbs, could say a woman with 2 kids exist without a car, shopping, school, work, after school activities?

Yes, of course it does - and yes, of course she could. That's what my mother had to do when I was a kid.

In the days before I had a car, I used to commute from Forrestfield to Kingsley for work. It took two buses and a train, but I got there and back every day.


I know that in brisbane that would be pretty well impossible, unless you lived very close to the city. Up here one hour from the city it would be totally impossible in almost all suburbs I have seen.

Or maybe i should ask one of the mums in perth if that would be possible ;)
I can't speak for Brisbane, but the public transport system in Perth is extensive. The train system in particular, is massive.

Perth's public transport system is arguably the most advanced in Australia. The West Australian government invested millions of dollars in 2002/03 to introduce new ultra modern Mercedes buses, some running on hydrogen. For example, The new SmartRider ticketing system calculates fares automatically and can be read through a wallet. The STEP programme or, Sustainable Transport Energy for Perth, is responsible for the fuel cell buses in Perth, which is part of an international trial known as the Fuel Cell Bus Club.

Perth metropolitan transport, including trains, buses and ferries are provided by Transperth network, with links to rural areas provided by Transwa. See List of Perth railway stations and List of Perth bus stations.

The Indian Pacific passenger rail service connects Perth with Adelaide and Sydney via Kalgoorlie. The Transwa Prospector passenger rail service connects Perth with Kalgoorlie via several wheatbelt towns.
Source.

Check out that link to the list of Perth railway stations. You'll see that it covers all the major suburbs.

movetoperth May 2nd 2006 6:29 pm

Re: Blocks of Land in Perth
 

Originally Posted by jad n rich
Ok vash does public transport in perth go out to the suburbs, could say a woman with 2 kids exist without a car, shopping, school, work, after school activities? I know that in brisbane that would be pretty well impossible, unless you lived very close to the city. Up here one hour from the city it would be totally impossible in almost all suburbs I have seen.

Or maybe i should ask one of the mums in perth if that would be possible ;)


I couldn't do it, but thats because my kids go to school in a different suburb and we have no shops in ours. But..... if the kids went to the local school we could walk there in under 10 mins, when the shops open (shortly) i could walk to coles and a multitude of other places in 5 mins, i can get the bus from the end of the road to the station and from there the train to where ever and then another bus if rquired to get to where i wanted to go.... so yes if i wasn't such a lazy cow i could exist with pulic transport and probably be a lot fitter. i still couldn't look on the car as a luxury, its still a necessity.

Lynn

Vash the Stampede May 2nd 2006 6:31 pm

Re: Blocks of Land in Perth
 

Originally Posted by Amazulu
Getting into & out of the city is no problem. Public transport is good & plentiful in that regard. Getting around the suburb is another story. There are some bus services but thet are limited & infrequent. Living anywhere that is not really close to the city would be a nightmare without a car.

Have you been to Midland lately? Evidently not. Bus services are plentiful and frequent.

You don't live in an inner suburb anyway; you live way out in Kalamunda, which is practically semi-rural. So your experience of the bus service is not representative of the whole.

The Corderys May 2nd 2006 6:44 pm

Re: Blocks of Land in Perth
 

Originally Posted by Amazulu
Getting into & out of the city is no problem. Public transport is good & plentiful in that regard. Getting around the suburb is another story. There are some bus services but thet are limited & infrequent. Living anywhere that is not really close to the city would be a nightmare without a car.

I don't think it'd be easy without a car, but if you bought a place near one of the local shopping centres, close to schools etc it'd be possible. You'd have to be careful where you chose to live, you couldn't be looking at banksia grove/carramar or thereabouts at the moment as we have very little amenities wise and public transport, I think there's one bus once an hour. Personally I found living here too isolated without a car it's a very big place, and a trip to the shops is stressful enough with a 2 year old without having to walk to and from it.

jad n rich May 2nd 2006 7:05 pm

Re: Blocks of Land in Perth
 
So basically most people need cars even in perth.

Tell ya what vash when you have a couple of toddlers, its 37 in the shade or chucking it down, you have 12 bags of groceries and a 7 year old to get to soccer 12 klms away, then your on the evening shift, but need to cook dinner and fit in a docs appointment before you go try it doing it all by bus :D :D

PLANTS May 2nd 2006 7:15 pm

Re: Blocks of Land in Perth
 

Originally Posted by steve99
I know what you mean, I remember when we came over it was around the 75c per litre mark.
Still I hate to think how bad it must be in the UK now, is it over a pound per litre now?
I'd definitely prefer $1:40 vs $2:40 !

I guess we're also lucky in that the public transport over here is so cheap and generally of a pretty good standard.


Uk Petrol Prices around Rugby are between 96p to 98p per litre if thats any help as of Wed 3rd May 06.

Clippy May 2nd 2006 7:29 pm

Re: Blocks of Land in Perth
 
What is the transport like in Perth - as in is it clean and safe? I used to catch the bus to work every day when I worked in Birmingham and it was hell! Buses are filthy and frequented by all the local scum who get on without paying and don't bother waiting in the two bus deep queue because they can just walk to the front. Oh and if you complain about that....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/e...ds/4159038.stm

So if the transport is anything like this in Perth then we'd have to make some serious sacrifices to keep the car going!

mumomonty May 2nd 2006 7:36 pm

Re: Blocks of Land in Perth
 

Originally Posted by Hels
See, you all need to move to Bendigo!!

Just got a 766 sqm block for only $63,250 :p



:D

Get one for me. I love country Victoria. :)

renth May 2nd 2006 7:40 pm

Re: Blocks of Land in Perth
 

Originally Posted by Clippies
What is the transport like in Perth - as in is it clean and safe? I used to catch the bus to work every day when I worked in Birmingham and it was hell! Buses are filthy and frequented by all the local scum who get on without paying and don't bother waiting in the two bus deep queue because they can just walk to the front. Oh and if you complain about that....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/e...ds/4159038.stm

So if the transport is anything like this in Perth then we'd have to make some serious sacrifices to keep the car going!

Perth public transport is pretty good, fairly cheap & clean. You can get a bit of trouble sometimes, usually at night more so on the trains going out to Midland and Armadale but there are a lot of security guards. It's fine for a commute to work if you either live near your work or work in the city.

It took me about 90 minutes with 2 changes to get to UWA form Ocean Reef so, not very convenient for me but if I worked in the city I would use it.

Amazulu May 2nd 2006 7:52 pm

Re: Blocks of Land in Perth
 

Originally Posted by Vash the Stampede
Have you been to Midland lately? Evidently not. Bus services are plentiful and frequent.

You don't live in an inner suburb anyway; you live way out in Kalamunda, which is practically semi-rural. So your experience of the bus service is not representative of the whole.

I'd like to see you try & live in a northern suburb of Perth, say 15-20kms out without a car. You could do it but it would be a pretty bleak existence.
Kalamunda seems to have a fairly frequent bus service into Perth, I've never caught it as it takes twice as long as driving but it seems to be well used.

Guest0424 May 2nd 2006 10:36 pm

Re: Blocks of Land in Perth
 
[QUOTE=PLANTS]Uk Petrol Prices around Rugby are between 96p to 98p per litre if thats any help as of Wed 3rd May 06.[/QUO

Diesel petrol in Sheffield is 98.9p per litre.

Public transport - now theres a laugh - when it turns up you pay 40p per child one way. To get to our town centre your looking at around £2 per adult. Cheaper by car even though fuel costs so much. Not much difference in travel time since all we do is queue, queue, queue!

NKSK version 2 May 2nd 2006 11:00 pm

Re: Blocks of Land in Perth
 
[QUOTE=pom plumber]

Originally Posted by PLANTS
Uk Petrol Prices around Rugby are between 96p to 98p per litre if thats any help as of Wed 3rd May 06.[/QUO

Diesel petrol in Sheffield is 98.9p per litre.

Public transport - now theres a laugh - when it turns up you pay 40p per child one way. To get to our town centre your looking at around £2 per adult. Cheaper by car even though fuel costs so much. Not much difference in travel time since all we do is queue, queue, queue!


I think I must have done something wrong. Last week I took the kids into town by train from Warwick station. It cost $3.10 per adult and (I think) $1.50 per kid...so $9.20 each way for four of us. So total cost $18.40.

If I'd gone in the car it would have cost us around $5 in parking and about the same in petrol.

And the bloody power was down (this was Friday) and so it took an hour and 15 mins to get into town (normally takes 13 mins apparently.)

Did I do something wrong on the tickets?

walla May 3rd 2006 12:09 am

Re: Blocks of Land in Perth
 

Originally Posted by renth
Has anyone else noticed how the sizes of blocks of land released are getting smaller and smaller? Currently most blocks seem to be between 300 and 400 square meters and for the priviledge of owning one you need to camp out for 5 nights :eek:

Not only that, they look like this:

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So you have to build a really long, thin house.

Aye the real winners (apart from the robbing bastard land agents) in all of this are the people who have the old standard quarter acre blocks. A mate of mine has a block in Yokine which could be zoned into 3 units, she was offered 800k by an estate agent who just turned up out of the blue with the offer...

Vash the Stampede May 3rd 2006 4:49 am

Re: Blocks of Land in Perth
 

Originally Posted by Amazulu
I'd like to see you try & live in a northern suburb of Perth, say 15-20kms out without a car. You could do it but it would be a pretty bleak existence.

Kalamunda seems to have a fairly frequent bus service into Perth, I've never caught it as it takes twice as long as driving but it seems to be well used.

Did you read my post at all? :confused:

I've already told you that I did live in a northern suburb without a car! I lived in Forrestfield (6058) and commuted to Kingsley (6026) every day. (You have heard of these places, haven't you? You do know that they're both northern suburbs, don't you?)

I followed this routine for nearly a year. It wasn't a bleak existence, but it didn't come close to the convenience of a car.

Very few things do - regardless of how far you're travelling.


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