Average wage computer programmer Sydney
Jun 10th 2013 | 12:22 am
#16
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Re: Average wage computer programmer Sydney
No, they can't. They can only go on either:
His last tax return.
What he says he's earning.
If there's no last tax return, nor any from the years before, and if he's contracting, then how do Child support check his income?
They don't check incomes as a matter of course... you have to get them to do it by putting in a change of assessment under 'special circumstances' - reason 8.
Then they'll check. Otherwise no.
Hahahhahahahahahahahahaha.
What last tax return?
Luckily the ATO have now made avoiding putting in a tax return to avoid correct payment of Child support as tax evasion.
His last tax return.
What he says he's earning.
If there's no last tax return, nor any from the years before, and if he's contracting, then how do Child support check his income?
They don't check incomes as a matter of course... you have to get them to do it by putting in a change of assessment under 'special circumstances' - reason 8.
Then they'll check. Otherwise no.
Hahahhahahahahahahahahaha.
What last tax return?
Luckily the ATO have now made avoiding putting in a tax return to avoid correct payment of Child support as tax evasion.
Jun 10th 2013 | 2:50 pm
#17
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Re: Average wage computer programmer Sydney
Heck, it was fine. I am remarried very happily and we're five years on. Despite best efforts, he still treats me like the enemy, but really, that doesn't bother me so much.
It would be nice if he would pay his child support on a regular basis, yet despite emails to ask him to do so, or to inform me if he's not going to pay it for whatever reason so that I can plan, it seems he's incapable... which leaves me with one option. We have three great kids together, one with a health situation now which needs $ to deal with it and I need to have regular child support payments which are accurate.
Oh I'm sure the ABC is. But this is the way the CSA works. They will accept what he tells them unless I object. Many people don't bother to object, or don't understand the system.
Once the paperwork is in, the onus will be on him to provide the proof.
See above.
I suspect the ATO has much bigger fish to fry, though now they've made it actual tax evasion to avoid putting in a tax return, I guess they have a department which actually deals with it... ? Who knows?
But that's the system with the CSA... no tax returns, no evidence. Therefore I have to get them to assess the situation themselves by filling in forms.
Sucks, but there we are.
It would be nice if he would pay his child support on a regular basis, yet despite emails to ask him to do so, or to inform me if he's not going to pay it for whatever reason so that I can plan, it seems he's incapable... which leaves me with one option. We have three great kids together, one with a health situation now which needs $ to deal with it and I need to have regular child support payments which are accurate.
Once the paperwork is in, the onus will be on him to provide the proof.
If we accept that it's a given that he is not declaring his income, how does the ABC pay him without a Tax File Number ?
Employee or contractor he still needs to provide a T.F.N. before receiving payment from the ABC.
It seems that you suspect that he is understating his income in order to evade his financial responsibility's. If that is the case why not just inform the child support agency that he is earning $500K a year and leave it to him to him to defend your claim by producing his financial records.
Employee or contractor he still needs to provide a T.F.N. before receiving payment from the ABC.
It seems that you suspect that he is understating his income in order to evade his financial responsibility's. If that is the case why not just inform the child support agency that he is earning $500K a year and leave it to him to him to defend your claim by producing his financial records.
But that's the system with the CSA... no tax returns, no evidence. Therefore I have to get them to assess the situation themselves by filling in forms.
Sucks, but there we are.
Last edited by TiddlyPom; Jun 10th 2013 at 2:53 pm.
Jun 11th 2013 | 2:29 am
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Re: Average wage computer programmer Sydney
Heck, it was fine. I am remarried very happily and we're five years on. Despite best efforts, he still treats me like the enemy, but really, that doesn't bother me so much.
It would be nice if he would pay his child support on a regular basis, yet despite emails to ask him to do so, or to inform me if he's not going to pay it for whatever reason so that I can plan, it seems he's incapable... which leaves me with one option. We have three great kids together, one with a health situation now which needs $ to deal with it and I need to have regular child support payments which are accurate.
Then do the "Paperwork" and allow the people who should be dealing with this 'situation' to deal with it.
Once the paperwork is in, the onus will be on him to provide the proof.
Then do the "Paperwork" and do as I suggested earlier and inflate your estimate of his earnings and let him disprove your claim by producing his tax returns.......See above
I suspect the ATO has much bigger fish to fry, though now they've made it actual tax evasion to avoid putting in a tax return, I guess they have a department which actually deals with it... ? Who knows?
But that's the system with the CSA... no tax returns, no evidence. Therefore I have to get them to assess the situation themselves by filling in forms.
Then please see above.....Do the "Paperwork", fill in the forms and allow the organisation responsible for regulating these payments to do their job.
Sucks, but there we are.
It would be nice if he would pay his child support on a regular basis, yet despite emails to ask him to do so, or to inform me if he's not going to pay it for whatever reason so that I can plan, it seems he's incapable... which leaves me with one option. We have three great kids together, one with a health situation now which needs $ to deal with it and I need to have regular child support payments which are accurate.
Then do the "Paperwork" and allow the people who should be dealing with this 'situation' to deal with it.
Once the paperwork is in, the onus will be on him to provide the proof.
Then do the "Paperwork" and do as I suggested earlier and inflate your estimate of his earnings and let him disprove your claim by producing his tax returns.......See above
I suspect the ATO has much bigger fish to fry, though now they've made it actual tax evasion to avoid putting in a tax return, I guess they have a department which actually deals with it... ? Who knows?
But that's the system with the CSA... no tax returns, no evidence. Therefore I have to get them to assess the situation themselves by filling in forms.
Then please see above.....Do the "Paperwork", fill in the forms and allow the organisation responsible for regulating these payments to do their job.
Sucks, but there we are.
http://www.humanservices.gov.au/cust...port-agreement
As a parent, you have responsibilities and rights. You also have choices in arranging your Child Support in a way that works for both parents.
As a parent with a Child Support case or agreement, you are responsible for making sure:
the agreed shared care arrangements of your children are met
you lodge your tax return on time
you report your income accurately
you inform us of any changes as soon as possible, including:
if you have not received a payment
if you cannot make a payment
if the agreed care arrangements for your children are not being met
a change to the number of dependent children you have
your employment status
your address and contact details
changes to your bank account details
if you, the other parent or a child intend to move overseas
if you are trying a reconciliation with the other parent
if a child you make payments for is turning 18
if a child is adopted, marries or starts to live in a defacto relationship
if a parent or child included in the assessment dies.
Jun 11th 2013 | 12:23 pm
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Re: Average wage computer programmer Sydney
From the CSA website......
http://www.humanservices.gov.au/cust...port-agreement
As a parent, you have responsibilities and rights. You also have choices in arranging your Child Support in a way that works for both parents.
As a parent with a Child Support case or agreement, you are responsible for making sure:
the agreed shared care arrangements of your children are met
you lodge your tax return on time
you report your income accurately
you inform us of any changes as soon as possible, including:
if you have not received a payment
if you cannot make a payment
if the agreed care arrangements for your children are not being met
a change to the number of dependent children you have
your employment status
your address and contact details
changes to your bank account details
if you, the other parent or a child intend to move overseas
if you are trying a reconciliation with the other parent
if a child you make payments for is turning 18
if a child is adopted, marries or starts to live in a defacto relationship
if a parent or child included in the assessment dies.
http://www.humanservices.gov.au/cust...port-agreement
As a parent, you have responsibilities and rights. You also have choices in arranging your Child Support in a way that works for both parents.
As a parent with a Child Support case or agreement, you are responsible for making sure:
the agreed shared care arrangements of your children are met
you lodge your tax return on time
you report your income accurately
you inform us of any changes as soon as possible, including:
if you have not received a payment
if you cannot make a payment
if the agreed care arrangements for your children are not being met
a change to the number of dependent children you have
your employment status
your address and contact details
changes to your bank account details
if you, the other parent or a child intend to move overseas
if you are trying a reconciliation with the other parent
if a child you make payments for is turning 18
if a child is adopted, marries or starts to live in a defacto relationship
if a parent or child included in the assessment dies.
What the hell do you think this thread is started for? So I can complete the paperwork you so kindly nag me about three times in one post in red. Thanks.
Was that really necessary? OR are you just irked for some god unknown reason?I know my rights and responsibilities to my kids. I'm the one they live with, who has raised them and who feeds and clothes them. Your suggestion of falsely inflating income estimates is just stupid. You think that helps ex husbands have a good relationship with their ex wives? Newsflash. It doesn't. And the people that rubs off on is the kids. So grow up.
The system doesn't work like that and if you knew how it did, then you'd know that all my paperwork will be sent to him so he can see my claims. It's an open exchange of information under the current law.
If you find something I've written annoys you, just skip on by.
Last edited by TiddlyPom; Jun 11th 2013 at 12:29 pm. Reason: Clarification
Jun 11th 2013 | 7:27 pm
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Re: Average wage computer programmer Sydney
I'm not at all sure ?
From your previous posts on this subject it appears that you suspect that your ex husband was understating his income, failing to present tax returns and missing child support payments and wanted advice on the matter.
Your last post indicates that you still have frank and open discussions with your ex regarding his financial situation and his responsibilities to his children. If this is the case, then why do you ask a bunch of strangers on an internet forum ? Why not simply ask the man himself ?
I posted the link to the Child Support Agency because the information on that site seemed to address most of your concerns re understating income, failing to file tax returns promptly and the payment of agreed or prescribed child support payments.
As you countered any suggestion from forum members that his income could be checked by his tax returns with " ha ha ha he doesn't file tax returns", I thought perhaps you might be ignorant of the law and only posted the link so you could be better informed.
My thoughts at the time were this was an acrimonious separation and tried to advise accordingly, but now I'm aware that you two are still on good terms I'm sure that you'll be able to sit down over a cup of coffee and work it out amicably.
Good luck
From your previous posts on this subject it appears that you suspect that your ex husband was understating his income, failing to present tax returns and missing child support payments and wanted advice on the matter.
Your last post indicates that you still have frank and open discussions with your ex regarding his financial situation and his responsibilities to his children. If this is the case, then why do you ask a bunch of strangers on an internet forum ? Why not simply ask the man himself ?
I posted the link to the Child Support Agency because the information on that site seemed to address most of your concerns re understating income, failing to file tax returns promptly and the payment of agreed or prescribed child support payments.
As you countered any suggestion from forum members that his income could be checked by his tax returns with " ha ha ha he doesn't file tax returns", I thought perhaps you might be ignorant of the law and only posted the link so you could be better informed.
My thoughts at the time were this was an acrimonious separation and tried to advise accordingly, but now I'm aware that you two are still on good terms I'm sure that you'll be able to sit down over a cup of coffee and work it out amicably.
Good luck
Jun 12th 2013 | 12:16 am
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Re: Average wage computer programmer Sydney
This thread has been closed because a) it would appear the OP has had the best answers she is likely to get from it
and b) it appears to be getting a little heated and out of hand. The post above has been deleted for just that reason. The thread will not however be deleted because it contains information that could help other people out in the future.
OP - I hope you can see that help was being offered to you with the best of intentions, no-one was trying to do anything other than assist both you, and anyone else finding themselves in a similar situation.
and b) it appears to be getting a little heated and out of hand. The post above has been deleted for just that reason. The thread will not however be deleted because it contains information that could help other people out in the future.
OP - I hope you can see that help was being offered to you with the best of intentions, no-one was trying to do anything other than assist both you, and anyone else finding themselves in a similar situation.
Last edited by Pollyana; Jun 12th 2013 at 12:19 am.
