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cool_archie Aug 27th 2006 5:11 pm

Average Time for Securing a Job
 
Hello Everybody,

Just would like to know what is the Average time it takes to secure a decent job in AUS
once you move permanently, for someone having Technical Skills in IT and about 10 years of experience.

Regards,

gedge Aug 27th 2006 5:23 pm

Re: Average Time for Securing a Job
 

Originally Posted by cool_archie
Hello Everybody,

Just would like to know what is the Average time it takes to secure a decent job in AUS
once you move permanently, for someone having Technical Skills in IT and about 10 years of experience.

Regards,

whereabouts, and what skills specifically?
took me 2 weeks in Sydney using my midrange AP background to get a contract

Lindsay Clan Aug 27th 2006 6:11 pm

Re: Average Time for Securing a Job
 
The average time is supposed to be around 4 months!!! Depends a lot on luck as well with being in the right place at the right time.

Lorraine

thebears Aug 27th 2006 6:19 pm

Re: Average Time for Securing a Job
 

Originally Posted by Lindsay Clan
The average time is supposed to be around 4 months!!! Depends a lot on luck as well with being in the right place at the right time.

Lorraine

4 months OMG I would be doing my head in waiting that long. (no offence to you Lorraine).

If you are hungry for work you should spend a week talking/meeting with agents, followed by a week of interviews, starting/commencing work the beginning of the third week. Longer depends on marketability on your part and what is out their at the time.

Swerv-o Aug 27th 2006 6:31 pm

Re: Average Time for Securing a Job
 

Originally Posted by cool_archie
Hello Everybody,

Just would like to know what is the Average time it takes to secure a decent job in AUS
once you move permanently, for someone having Technical Skills in IT and about 10 years of experience.

Regards,

It took me a month exactly from arriving to job offer. I have just been in and signed the contract today and start tomorrow.

I am (now) in scientific & technical writing. This was a massive career change for me, as prior to leaving the UK, I was a secondary school teacher. I have managed to score a massive pay rise into the deal too. Though I will miss the long holidays, I certainly won't miss all the awful screaming kids that go with it...

S

lollyno1 Aug 27th 2006 6:38 pm

Re: Average Time for Securing a Job
 
ive been trying to secure something from over here...no luck yet...

applied for 30 jobs so far...one even called for my references..but just got up and have 6 emails knocking me back :0 (

onward and upward though...

rossifumi Aug 27th 2006 7:15 pm

Re: Average Time for Securing a Job
 
5 months. :)

Wendy Aug 27th 2006 7:19 pm

Re: Average Time for Securing a Job
 

Originally Posted by rossifumi
5 months. :)


When do/did you start ?

Swerv-o Aug 27th 2006 7:22 pm

Re: Average Time for Securing a Job
 

Originally Posted by lollyno1
ive been trying to secure something from over here...no luck yet...

applied for 30 jobs so far...one even called for my references..but just got up and have 6 emails knocking me back :0 (

onward and upward though...

I tried exactly the same thing with no success. On reflection, I think it's a very de-motivating thing to do, as you really start to worry about how well you will get on when you arrive.

I applied for many months prior to arrival, with barely a response to the Emails in most cases. As soon as I arrived and got an Aussie address on the top of my CV, I had 2 interviews in the first week, then 6 more over the next 3. I wouldn't have said that I had the pick of the jobs, but the one I've taken is certainly the best on offer.

Good luck!

S

lollyno1 Aug 27th 2006 7:32 pm

Re: Average Time for Securing a Job
 

Originally Posted by Swerv-o
I tried exactly the same thing with no success. On reflection, I think it's a very de-motivating thing to do, as you really start to worry about how well you will get on when you arrive.

I applied for many months prior to arrival, with barely a response to the Emails in most cases. As soon as I arrived and got an Aussie address on the top of my CV, I had 2 interviews in the first week, then 6 more over the next 3. I wouldn't have said that I had the pick of the jobs, but the one I've taken is certainly the best on offer.

Good luck!

S


yes a little demotivating..and now my head knows about my plans..lol

its was worth a try though..house is not selling so was another option...

anyway good luck in your job, glad your enjoying it.

regards

lolly

thebears Aug 27th 2006 7:35 pm

Re: Average Time for Securing a Job
 

Originally Posted by rossifumi
5 months. :)

Hi mate in your work have you come across the following company in the UK?

ajw-aviation.

Swerv-o Aug 27th 2006 7:41 pm

Re: Average Time for Securing a Job
 

Originally Posted by lollyno1
yes a little demotivating..and now my head knows about my plans..lol

its was worth a try though..house is not selling so was another option...

anyway good luck in your job, glad your enjoying it.

regards

lolly

This happened to me, only I had resigned from my full time post before my house sold. I ended up doing nearly a year on supply, which was actually quite good, as I was able to build up a nice lump sum to bring with me. If you are in the midlands, I can give you the name of my agent. They were excellent - I had long term contracts, and the only day off I had all year was the support staff strike. They pay to scale too.

S

lollyno1 Aug 27th 2006 8:05 pm

Re: Average Time for Securing a Job
 

Originally Posted by Swerv-o
This happened to me, only I had resigned from my full time post before my house sold. I ended up doing nearly a year on supply, which was actually quite good, as I was able to build up a nice lump sum to bring with me. If you are in the midlands, I can give you the name of my agent. They were excellent - I had long term contracts, and the only day off I had all year was the support staff strike. They pay to scale too.

S


thanks...but im in the north..for my sins..lol and I have to be in oz by jan 07...not much tiime eh...

and im a scardy cat...to give up my job just yet..mind only have till oct half term..and not sold the house yet...oh woe is me..lol

rossifumi Aug 27th 2006 8:15 pm

Re: Average Time for Securing a Job
 

Originally Posted by WendyC
When do/did you start ?

I start 2 weeks today. After 17 applications plus 6 speculative and 5 interviews all has come good.

I had one interview which lasted 2 hours including a guided tour in which I didn't get offered the job.
Reason: Very strong but lack of commercial airline experience. :confused: Well hello, you knew this before I set foot in the interview.

Another position I went for, the company withdrew the position post interviewing of 4 candidates. :confused:
The good ideas club had got together and decided they required a new position, interviewed 4 people then decided shit do we really need this new position!! Unbelievable!

rossifumi Aug 27th 2006 8:17 pm

Re: Average Time for Securing a Job
 

Originally Posted by thebears
Hi mate in your work have you come across the following company in the UK?

ajw-aviation.

No i haven't mate, why do you ask?

lollyno1 Aug 27th 2006 8:23 pm

Re: Average Time for Securing a Job
 

Originally Posted by rossifumi
I start 2 weeks today. After 17 applications plus 6 speculative and 5 interviews all has come good.

I had one interview which lasted 2 hours including a guided tour in which I didn't get offered the job.
Reason: Very strong but lack of commercial airline experience. :confused: Well hello, you knew this before I set foot in the interview.

Another position I went for, the company withdrew the position post interviewing of 4 candidates. :confused:
The good ideas club had got together and decided they required a new position, interviewed 4 people then decided shit do we really need this new position!! Unbelievable!


just to say congrtulations on securing a job..hope everything works out for you.

rossifumi Aug 27th 2006 8:24 pm

Re: Average Time for Securing a Job
 

Originally Posted by lollyno1
just to say congrtulations on securing a job..hope everything works out for you.

Thanks for your kind words, much appreciated. :)

cool_archie Aug 27th 2006 8:24 pm

Re: Average Time for Securing a Job
 

Originally Posted by gedge
whereabouts, and what skills specifically?
took me 2 weeks in Sydney using my midrange AP background to get a contract

Hello gedge,
Thanks for your reply.

Actually right now I am working in the UAE as an IT Manager,
but I can do Systems / Network Administration work also for a start in AUS.

I have a validated PR visa for AUS and thinking about settling there ASAP.

Rregards,

Melchels Aug 27th 2006 8:55 pm

Re: Average Time for Securing a Job
 

Originally Posted by cool_archie
Hello Everybody,

Just would like to know what is the Average time it takes to secure a decent job in AUS
once you move permanently, for someone having Technical Skills in IT and about 10 years of experience.

Regards,

60 hours from landing!

Cheetah7 Aug 27th 2006 9:29 pm

Re: Average Time for Securing a Job
 
I have read about Admin staff having difficulty securing work.

Although I do wonder if it depends on your profession and where you live.

My husband is worried that he wont get work as a chef - you never know. He has had the odd nasty comment about his nationality.

As a PA and with secretarial skills, I dont know how much I will struggle and I would go back to Vet nursing if I had to.

Suppose we wont know until we get there.

But it is scary and I have been following Frasers story with interest and get quite excited when I hear about other BE people securing employment in Oz. Well done to Rossifumi on his new job:)

Jockstar Aug 27th 2006 9:31 pm

Re: Average Time for Securing a Job
 
I'm a spark. Took me 3 days.

jossy Aug 27th 2006 9:34 pm

Re: Average Time for Securing a Job
 

Originally Posted by lollyno1
ive been trying to secure something from over here...no luck yet...

applied for 30 jobs so far...one even called for my references..but just got up and have 6 emails knocking me back :0 (

onward and upward though...


Does anyone know the full process out there for recruitment.

I have had

Telephone interview 1.5 hrs
Video conference interview 2 hrs

References called for being taken up this week

Are they likely to pull out now unless references are really bad and what are the next stages.

I don't want to assume its the same as here and references unless really bad means you're almost there?

Cheers in advance, good luck to everyone with their hunting of jobs

Jossy

Jockstar Aug 27th 2006 9:37 pm

Re: Average Time for Securing a Job
 

Originally Posted by jossy
Does anyone know the full process out there for recruitment.

I have had

Telephone interview 1.5 hrs
Video conference interview 2 hrs

References called for being taken up this week

Are they likely to pull out now unless references are really bad and what are the next stages.

I don't want to assume its the same as here and references unless really bad means you're almost there?

Cheers in advance, good luck to everyone with their hunting of jobs

Jossy



Depends what you do i suppose.

suebrennan Aug 27th 2006 9:47 pm

Re: Average Time for Securing a Job
 

Originally Posted by Jockstar
Depends what you do i suppose.

It sure does and I am completely crap at looking for work. I have only started although I did bang in one application to the police when I arrived. It is always a catch 22 - did a specialist role in the UK and alegedly they want people to work in intelligence over here but the little homework I have done so far does not sound promising. The job I applied for I could do standing on my head blindfolded but I have been told it is "a very high grade" and I am unlikely to get in at that level bla bla. Would be better to temp in admin for sfa money. To put that in perspective I earned 15 bucks an hour printing t-shirts and stuff like that when I was a backpacker 20 years ago and the hourly rate has risen by 4 bucks since then whilst the cost of livng is way up there.

I registered with an agency on Friday - they were lovely but it took 4 hours to be told if you have not heard from us in a couple of weeks give us a call.

Don't want to sound neg. Everything else is great - love Brisbane - did a fantastic trip up to Frazer Island last week and I have a nice place to live thanks to another forum member taking the time to pm me. The weather is not bad given it is winter and people are on the whole very friendly and helpful.

Just HATE looking for work -----.

Sue :)

Cheetah7 Aug 27th 2006 9:52 pm

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It would be interesting to see what professions people are in and how long it took them.

I must update my CV. I plan to resit all my recruitment tests in Excel, Microsoft Word, typing, Audio typing and power point and then at least I have something to take with me, although I reckon they will do their own recruitment tests in Australia.

thebears Aug 27th 2006 9:54 pm

Re: Average Time for Securing a Job
 

Originally Posted by Professional Princess
My husband is worried that he wont get work as a chef - you never know. He has had the odd nasty comment about his nationality.

What he's a non Ozzie? Welcome to the club mate ;)

Tell him not to worry, those that feel threatened will always come up with comments based on nationality, as though this is a reasonable basis to divide F..wits from normal people. :)

Plenty of Ozzie mates of mine also have great Pommy mates (and "pommy" is always said in terms of endearment in our social circle).

suebrennan Aug 27th 2006 9:54 pm

Re: Average Time for Securing a Job
 

Originally Posted by Professional Princess
It would be interesting to see what professions people are in and how long it took them.

I must update my CV. I plan to resit all my recruitment tests in Excel, Microsoft Word, typing, Audio typing and power point and then at least I have something to take with me, although I reckon they will do their own recruitment tests in Australia.

Bloody good idea princess. If you are up to scratch with typing, excel and word you should not go too far wrong.

Sue

Cheetah7 Aug 27th 2006 9:58 pm

Re: Average Time for Securing a Job
 

Originally Posted by thebears
What he's a non Ozzie? Welcome to the club mate ;)

Tell him not to worry, those that feel threatened will always come up with comments based on nationality, as though this is a reasonable basis to divide F..wits from normal people. :)

Plenty of Ozzie mates of mine also have great Pommy mates (and "pommy" is always said in terms of endearment in our social circle).

Hubby is Algerian, although always gets mistaken for Italian.

With everything that is going on, he is a tad nervous of how he will be treated. Mind you, he is quite excited at the thought of embracing Aussie life and has no intention of mixing with Algerians at all.

He loved it when he went before, he did the 'blokey things' - fishing, having a few cold ones on the boat. that sort of thing.

We did have one Aussie guy ask him if he had learned to fly a plane yet, but it was said in jest and my husband pissed himself laughing, replying 'only land one'. :D

rossifumi Aug 27th 2006 9:59 pm

Re: Average Time for Securing a Job
 

Originally Posted by suebrennan
It sure does and I am completely crap at looking for work. I have only started although I did bang in one application to the police when I arrived. It is always a catch 22 - did a specialist role in the UK and alegedly they want people to work in intelligence over here but the little homework I have done so far does not sound promising. The job I applied for I could do standing on my head blindfolded but I have been told it is "a very high grade" and I am unlikely to get in at that level bla bla. Would be better to temp in admin for sfa money. To put that in perspective I earned 15 bucks an hour printing t-shirts and stuff like that when I was a backpacker 20 years ago and the hourly rate has risen by 4 bucks since then whilst the cost of livng is way up there.

I registered with an agency on Friday - they were lovely but it took 4 hours to be told if you have not heard from us in a couple of weeks give us a call.

Don't want to sound neg. Everything else is great - love Brisbane - did a fantastic trip up to Frazer Island last week and I have a nice place to live thanks to another forum member taking the time to pm me. The weather is not bad given it is winter and people are on the whole very friendly and helpful.

Just HATE looking for work -----.

Sue :)

To work in intelligence you must be a citizen.

Cheetah7 Aug 27th 2006 10:01 pm

Re: Average Time for Securing a Job
 

Originally Posted by suebrennan
Bloody good idea princess. If you are up to scratch with typing, excel and word you should not go too far wrong.

Sue


Excel to me is a foreign language. :o I am crap with numbers, but I have basic knowledge on spreadsheets and stuff like that.

My agency are going to allow me to sit all the recruitment tests and print out the results on headed paper.

I am taking two testimonials from two different agencies, plus some references from my clients as well.

I will throw in some veterinary nurse references as well, in case I have to go back to that.

See what happens. :cool:

jossy Aug 27th 2006 10:02 pm

Re: Average Time for Securing a Job
 
I work in software for government processing so big IT firm is who my interviews and recruitment is with, just wondered what to expect after the references stage really :)

themerlin Aug 27th 2006 10:05 pm

Re: Average Time for Securing a Job
 

Originally Posted by cool_archie
Hello Everybody,

Just would like to know what is the Average time it takes to secure a decent job in AUS
once you move permanently, for someone having Technical Skills in IT and about 10 years of experience.

Regards,

I think you are best to do a few short contracts to start with, people seem to like an Oz employment history when they take you on full time.

And most people in personnel seem to think you are a back packer on a tmp visa when you first get here :)

I started on a 2 week contract and 5 years on I'm working full time at the same place.

thebears Aug 27th 2006 10:07 pm

Re: Average Time for Securing a Job
 

Originally Posted by Professional Princess
He loved it when he went before, he did the 'blokey things' - fishing, having a few cold ones on the boat. that sort of thing.

We did have one Aussie guy ask him if he had learned to fly a plane yet, but it was said in jest and my husband pissed himself laughing, replying 'only land one'. :D

Thats a new one... fishing from a plane :D

Bet your hubby has some great receipes for Cous cous?

Blokes are blokes if you dont like fishing there is something wrong. I'm sure he will be welcome - if you run into a suburb that gives you trouble is probably not the sort of place you would want to stay in anyway.

suebrennan Aug 27th 2006 10:07 pm

Re: Average Time for Securing a Job
 

Originally Posted by rossifumi
To work in intelligence you must be a citizen.

Some jobs do specifiy citizenship but others don't. Just like in the UK - I am Irish so there were some agencies that I could not work for there also but several police forces here have changed their rules due to skill shortages etc.

Sue

Cheetah7 Aug 27th 2006 10:10 pm

Re: Average Time for Securing a Job
 

Originally Posted by thebears
Thats a new one... fishing from a plane :D

Bet your hubby has some great receipes for Cous cous?

Blokes are blokes if you dont like fishing there is something wrong. I'm sure he will be welcome - if you run into a suburb that gives you trouble is probably not the sort of place you would want to stay in anyway.

Yes, he took to fishing ever so well. :cool: I sat in the boat with my life vest on (very weak swimmer).

We are planning to settle in Subiaco/West Leederville. After living in West London, I think we need something quite busy. We can save the beach for a day out.

He does all the cooking, I do the housework - works for us.

Talking of cous cous, we are having that tonight. :D

rossifumi Aug 27th 2006 10:32 pm

Re: Average Time for Securing a Job
 

Originally Posted by thebears
Hi mate in your work have you come across the following company in the UK?

ajw-aviation.

Mate are you going to reply to my response to your question, I am intrigued.

Pollyana Aug 27th 2006 10:57 pm

Re: Average Time for Securing a Job
 

Originally Posted by suebrennan
It sure does and I am completely crap at looking for work. I have only started although I did bang in one application to the police when I arrived. It is always a catch 22 - did a specialist role in the UK and alegedly they want people to work in intelligence over here but the little homework I have done so far does not sound promising. The job I applied for I could do standing on my head blindfolded but I have been told it is "a very high grade" and I am unlikely to get in at that level bla bla. Would be better to temp in admin for sfa money. To put that in perspective I earned 15 bucks an hour printing t-shirts and stuff like that when I was a backpacker 20 years ago and the hourly rate has risen by 4 bucks since then whilst the cost of livng is way up there.

I registered with an agency on Friday - they were lovely but it took 4 hours to be told if you have not heard from us in a couple of weeks give us a call.

Don't want to sound neg. Everything else is great - love Brisbane - did a fantastic trip up to Frazer Island last week and I have a nice place to live thanks to another forum member taking the time to pm me. The weather is not bad given it is winter and people are on the whole very friendly and helpful.

Just HATE looking for work -----.

Sue :)

Good luck with the police - in the UK I was a Vetting Unit Supervisor within the Intelligence Unit, and then a Fingerprint Technician. The police have rejected me hands down at every attempt to join, at AO2 and AO3 level, not even looking at my original level, so 14 years worth of a career counts for diddly squat. The last job I went for was given to a woman I worked with at Emergency Services - she freely admits she is just "OK at data entry" and knows nothing about police work or intelligence gathering/processing, but they have given her a position doing exactly that - me, I didn't even get an interview. I've given up on the police now, too many rejections, all for "not the right experience" :rolleyes:

Pollyana Aug 27th 2006 10:59 pm

Re: Average Time for Securing a Job
 

Originally Posted by rossifumi
To work in intelligence you must be a citizen.

State police will take you with PR, or for temporary jobs even on temp visas. Sounds like Sue has been applying for much the same as me - police intelligence unit stuff, as opposed to National Security Intelligence :)

Swerv-o Aug 27th 2006 11:17 pm

Re: Average Time for Securing a Job
 

Originally Posted by themerlin
And most people in personnel seem to think you are a back packer on a tmp visa when you first get here :)

This is true. I made sure that my residency status and visa number were emblazoned across the top of my CV in big ugly, but unrecogniseable black and bold letters.

Seems to have worked a treat so far...

S

The S's Aug 28th 2006 12:18 am

Re: Average Time for Securing a Job
 

Originally Posted by cool_archie
Hello Everybody,

Just would like to know what is the Average time it takes to secure a decent job in AUS
once you move permanently, for someone having Technical Skills in IT and about 10 years of experience.

Regards,

Hi

It depends on your career also. If your are a skilled tradesman you can start when you get off the plane. I am a maintenance fitter and had to keep fobbing people off as I fancied a bit of a holiday. Money is crap out here though :rolleyes: :rolleyes:


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