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Jockstar Aug 28th 2006 12:23 am

Re: Average Time for Securing a Job
 

Originally Posted by The S's
Hi

It depends on your career also. If your are a skilled tradesman you can start when you get off the plane. I am a maintenance fitter and had to keep fobbing people off as I fancied a bit of a holiday. Money is crap out here though :rolleyes: :rolleyes:


If you convert it to pounds it is.

thebears Aug 28th 2006 12:25 am

Re: Average Time for Securing a Job
 

Originally Posted by Pollyana
Sounds like Sue has been applying for much the same as me - police intelligence unit stuff

That cuts me out of the chase then :D

The S's Aug 28th 2006 12:52 am

Re: Average Time for Securing a Job
 

Originally Posted by Jockstar
If you convert it to pounds it is.


Not so Jockstar as the cost of living seems to be the same as back in UK

kjj Aug 28th 2006 2:00 am

Re: Average Time for Securing a Job
 
Hello,
My OH is a maintenence fitter, currently working in the pharmaceutical industry but has also worked in glass manufacturing and FMCG. We are hoping to be in QLD by end of next year, what do reckon his job chances would be. Any recommendations on agencies or where the best jobs are advertised.
If you could give us any information we would be grateful.
kjj


Originally Posted by The S's
Hi

It depends on your career also. If your are a skilled tradesman you can start when you get off the plane. I am a maintenance fitter and had to keep fobbing people off as I fancied a bit of a holiday. Money is crap out here though :rolleyes: :rolleyes:


rossifumi Aug 28th 2006 9:48 am

Re: Average Time for Securing a Job
 

Originally Posted by Pollyana
State police will take you with PR, or for temporary jobs even on temp visas. Sounds like Sue has been applying for much the same as me - police intelligence unit stuff, as opposed to National Security Intelligence :)

Yes, sorry I was on about the ASIO.

DunRoaminTheUK Aug 28th 2006 11:58 am

Re: Average Time for Securing a Job
 

Originally Posted by cool_archie
Hello Everybody,

Just would like to know what is the Average time it takes to secure a decent job in AUS
once you move permanently, for someone having Technical Skills in IT and about 10 years of experience.

Regards,

Hi.

I've had two job interviews and one offer and the other job moving to third interview (with the CEO) and more than likely job offer. I started looking about 1.5 weeks ago and I am in Brisbane.

Mind you, I am in IT and I had to do a mini-project for the latter, which took me two days and incorporated things like design patterns for re-use and loose-coupling as well as UML diagrams, test harnesses, blah, blah, blah.......

Hope this helps.

Wendy Aug 28th 2006 12:16 pm

Re: Average Time for Securing a Job
 

Originally Posted by rossifumi
I start 2 weeks today. After 17 applications plus 6 speculative and 5 interviews all has come good.

I had one interview which lasted 2 hours including a guided tour in which I didn't get offered the job.
Reason: Very strong but lack of commercial airline experience. :confused: Well hello, you knew this before I set foot in the interview.

Another position I went for, the company withdrew the position post interviewing of 4 candidates. :confused:
The good ideas club had got together and decided they required a new position, interviewed 4 people then decided shit do we really need this new position!! Unbelievable!


Don't you just love the recruitment process out here :rolleyes: :D

rossifumi Aug 28th 2006 12:21 pm

Re: Average Time for Securing a Job
 

Originally Posted by WendyC
Don't you just love the recruitment process out here :rolleyes: :D

You just have to love it! :rolleyes:

A certain aviation company who showed absolutely no interest in me have this morning left a message on the answerphone enquiring if I would like to come forward for an interview. :rolleyes:

Swerv-o Aug 28th 2006 12:21 pm

Re: Average Time for Securing a Job
 

Originally Posted by WendyC
Don't you just love the recruitment process out here :rolleyes: :D

Yeah, but I'm glad I'm out of it now... :rolleyes:

S

Wendy Aug 28th 2006 12:31 pm

Re: Average Time for Securing a Job
 

Originally Posted by rossifumi
You just have to love it! :rolleyes:

A certain aviation company who showed absolutely no interest in me have this morning left a message on the answerphone enquiring if I would like to come forward for an interview. :rolleyes:


Hubby had a medical last week. It took nearly two hours :eek: he's said next time time they ask do you mind having a medical, he's gonna tell them to get stuffed. (of course he probably won't :rolleyes: )

BadgeIsBack Aug 28th 2006 2:02 pm

Re: Average Time for Securing a Job
 

Originally Posted by WendyC
Don't you just love the recruitment process out here :rolleyes: :D

Deciding not to fill a role, or change a role, happens everywhere. It was rife in IT in Western Europe. I remember waiting 2 months and we were preferred clients, supposed to be placed almost out of hand.

Took me 6 weeks to get a job, and I wasn't trying that hard to be honest.

chels Aug 28th 2006 3:58 pm

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I get the impression here that taking references is seen as a standard part of the interview process, and not necessarily something they do just to confirm that their preferred choice of candidate is what they say they are and can do what they say they can do.

What I mean is - I interviewed for a job last week, three other candidates, they are getting references for all four candidates and will make their choice based on those (as 2 interviews, a test and a 6 page submission wasn't enough for them). Interviewers should be able to select someone after interviews, tests etc!

This is an annoying way of doing things. Every time I go for a job, I have to warn my referees they may be contacted etc, usually they are, and they are busy people!

I wish I didn't have to keep being interviewed for jobs, and the subsequent reference checks, but I'm trying the double whammy at the moment of applying for permanent roles AND more senior positions. And usually someone has more australian experience / seniority than me :(



Originally Posted by jossy
Does anyone know the full process out there for recruitment.

I have had

Telephone interview 1.5 hrs
Video conference interview 2 hrs

References called for being taken up this week

Are they likely to pull out now unless references are really bad and what are the next stages.

I don't want to assume its the same as here and references unless really bad means you're almost there?

Cheers in advance, good luck to everyone with their hunting of jobs

Jossy


rossifumi Aug 28th 2006 4:31 pm

Re: Average Time for Securing a Job
 

Originally Posted by chels
I get the impression here that taking references is seen as a standard part of the interview process, and not necessarily something they do just to confirm that their preferred choice of candidate is what they say they are and can do what they say they can do.

What I mean is - I interviewed for a job last week, three other candidates, they are getting references for all four candidates and will make their choice based on those (as 2 interviews, a test and a 6 page submission wasn't enough for them). Interviewers should be able to select someone after interviews, tests etc!

This is an annoying way of doing things. Every time I go for a job, I have to warn my referees they may be contacted etc, usually they are, and they are busy people!

I wish I didn't have to keep being interviewed for jobs, and the subsequent reference checks, but I'm trying the double whammy at the moment of applying for permanent roles AND more senior positions. And usually someone has more australian experience / seniority than me :(

Warning referees, tell me about it!

Wendy Aug 28th 2006 4:38 pm

Re: Average Time for Securing a Job
 

Originally Posted by thatsnotquiteright
Deciding not to fill a role, or change a role, happens everywhere. It was rife in IT in Western Europe. I remember waiting 2 months and we were preferred clients, supposed to be placed almost out of hand.

Took me 6 weeks to get a job, and I wasn't trying that hard to be honest.


I can't help but think that my OH would do better if he actually APPLIED for some jobs. ;) :D I've sent his CV of to 3 places, one he's had an interview for, one we never heard from and the other was an agency (won't hold my breath for that one!!)

Of course the main thing for us is that we are waiting on the TRA to give him either the electrical fitter or mechanic certificate, when that happens we can go onto the next step and apply for a licence.

thebears Aug 28th 2006 4:44 pm

Re: Average Time for Securing a Job
 

Originally Posted by WendyC
I can't help but think that my OH would do better if he actually APPLIED for some jobs. ;) :D I've sent his CV of to 3 places, one he's had an interview for, one we never heard from and the other was an agency (won't hold my breath for that one!!)

Of course the main thing for us is that we are waiting on the TRA to give him either the electrical fitter or mechanic certificate, when that happens we can go onto the next step and apply for a licence.

Some agencies take up to 6 weeks to come back - in terms of my wife a potential employer even felt to insecure to call her referees because they are the leading researchers in her field of respiratory diseases. OMG what can she do if they are too afraid to pick up the phone or let alone use the email.

Guess she will have to drop the bit about her academic publications and her PHD and perhaps her Masters.

matt-and-jenny Aug 29th 2006 12:15 am

Re: Average Time for Securing a Job
 
One week. Not in my chosen field though. I have a biochemistry degree and I was working in forensics. I have done a bit of work as an optical mechanic (spectacles-maker) in the UK, and found it easier to get a job in optics because over here it's more of a skilled trade (you can do a TAFE course and apprenticeship). I rang a few places before I got here, and they told me to get in touch when I got here. This led to getting a few contacts, but in the end I got the job just by handing out my CV around town. Big weight off the mind getting a job so quickly. Still looking to get back in forensics but that's more due to laziness on my part more than anything.

(Matt)

jjonboy Aug 29th 2006 2:27 am

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took the mrs 2 days to get a temp job (senoir-ish admin) and then about 2-3 weeks each time since. She found it hard to get a "job of choice" to start with and had to do a year of jobs with 2nd or 3rd tier companies first to get that seemingly vital local experience.... Now has a good job and much better wage than UK
took me 2 weeks to get a temp "will do for now" type job and 8 weeks to get first "proper" job. Same again they took the p*ss with the salary to begin with, but over 2 years i got it back to where it should be plus some to make up for the first few months. Now just changed and got a job of choice after 3 years on a very good salary (building surveyor/ Construction project manager)

Expect to have to prove your worth or even sell yourself cheap at first to get into the company you want to work for. it gets easier and comes good in the end..........

Pollyana Aug 29th 2006 2:33 am

Re: Average Time for Securing a Job
 

Originally Posted by jjonboy
it gets easier and comes good in the end..........

I wish my Witchy kit had a crystal ball to tell me how far away "the end" is...... :(

chels Aug 29th 2006 5:01 pm

Re: Average Time for Securing a Job
 
Still waiting to hear about the job I interviewed for - references have been gathered - a one in four chance I suppose (I've always been a glass half empty person though) :(

jossy Aug 29th 2006 6:02 pm

Re: Average Time for Securing a Job
 

Originally Posted by chels
Still waiting to hear about the job I interviewed for - references have been gathered - a one in four chance I suppose (I've always been a glass half empty person though) :(

Good Luck Chels, Keep Smiling and Keep Believing

Fingers crossed for ya :D

nomayaja Aug 30th 2006 1:39 am

Re: Average Time for Securing a Job
 
We've been in Perth 2 months now. Before moving to Australia my husband was working for an large pharmacutical company as a IT Infrastructure Manager which he quit to come here. He's applied for loads of jobs mainly on SEEK and has had lots of interviews with recruitment companies but none with the actual companies yet. The recruitment companies say he has an impresive CV but in Perth things take time and we must be patient. Apparently who you know and where you've worked locally is important. He's more hardware and there seems to be alot more jobs available in software. It seems that if you know Cisco or SAP you'll have no problem. Also, another thing alot of companies ask for is Project Management which he has alot of experience in but they want the Certificate so now my hubby is looking into doing a Project Management course just to get the Certificate. I on the other hand was a stay at home mum for 6 years and did secretarial work before that. I managed to find temp jobs really easily. If anyone wants info on the temp recruitment company I use let me know. They're the only ones out of the 4 I sent my CV to that actually found me jobs. I'm currently temping as a PA to 3 senior managers at a big engineering company. They're having problems finding employees in the engineering field (Project Management, Planners, Project Engineers, etc. I'll get the list and post it tomorrow if any of you are interested).

We're going to sit it out in Perth for a bit longer then hubby will start applying for jobs on the east coast. One recruitment company told my husband that alot of people in IT (not including software) had trouble finding jobs in Perth so took jobs in Brisbane, Adelaide or Sydney and after they had "Australian experience" they had no problems finding jobs in Perth.

I hope I haven't depressed any of you but thought I'd let you know how it's been for us.

Marina xx

suebrennan Aug 30th 2006 9:06 am

Re: Average Time for Securing a Job
 

Originally Posted by Pollyana
State police will take you with PR, or for temporary jobs even on temp visas. Sounds like Sue has been applying for much the same as me - police intelligence unit stuff, as opposed to National Security Intelligence :)

Hi Pollyana

Did not realise that you were also trying to get into a nick. To be honest I have gone right off the idea of working for the police here - will try and do something else. I have only appled for one intelligence role as per previous post. Could really do with doing a bit of it training as my skills are rusty - you tend to use word/excel in a very specific way and the very exciting recruitment tests here want a complete allrounder which I am not. What police force did you work for???

Sue

chels Aug 30th 2006 4:26 pm

Re: Average Time for Securing a Job
 

Originally Posted by jossy
Good Luck Chels, Keep Smiling and Keep Believing

Fingers crossed for ya :D


Still not a dicky bird from the recruitment agency - I will have to stop being so pathetic and call them up to find out for definite, one way or another, if I've got the job or not. If the company has mind its mind up, that is.

I really don't enjoy the job seeking process over here :(


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