Australia Day??
Jan 12th 2007, 2:10 am
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Re: Australia Day??
NB do you spell his name wrong on purpose?
Agree with you there Worzel. Hillarys fireworks were not worth getting out of bed for
My birthday is on Bonfire night so fireworks are not my thing, been around too long to get excited about them
I'm still unsure what Oz day is all about, so i suppose i'll just pretend and head to the pub
Agree with you there Worzel. Hillarys fireworks were not worth getting out of bed for
My birthday is on Bonfire night so fireworks are not my thing, been around too long to get excited about them I'm still unsure what Oz day is all about, so i suppose i'll just pretend and head to the pub
should answer all your questions.
Jan 12th 2007, 3:46 am
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Re: Australia Day??
Something is going over my head here (as usual )
How can this:
From 20 August 1986 a person born in Australia only acquired Australian citizenship by birth if at least one parent was an Australian citizen or permanent resident
mean that Arkon's son, who was born in Australia to an Australian PR visa holder mean that his son isn't a citizen
)How can this:
From 20 August 1986 a person born in Australia only acquired Australian citizenship by birth if at least one parent was an Australian citizen or permanent resident
mean that Arkon's son, who was born in Australia to an Australian PR visa holder mean that his son isn't a citizen
But this shows that there are people out there who assert with great confidence that if parents are not Australian, then child isn't either.
That's why it's so important - especially if parents are PR/eligible NZ - to get the child an Australian citizenship certificate (using form 119) to prove his or her Australian citizenship when this viewpoint is encountered during the child's life. Especially if that other person is a badly informed government official, employer, education official etc.
Jan 12th 2007, 4:11 am
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For those of you in Perth with young kids, our experience last year was a bit of an anticlimax.
We went to King's Park about 3 hours early - our kids were fantastically patient but in the end they couldn't see well because other people arrived and pretty much blocked the view.
That coupled with the bad language and alcohol from some of the low-lifes made it slightly uncomfortable.
On top of all this I actually thought the fireworks were good but I was expecting better from all the hype. New Year's Eve in Singapore over the Marina was more spectacular and our kids didn't really express many "wows" - even when I put them on my shoulders to see more clearly!.
Anyhow suffice to say that a simple cost/benefit analysis means that we won't be repeating the experience this year! (We might stand on the balcony and gaze at Hillary's)
We went to King's Park about 3 hours early - our kids were fantastically patient but in the end they couldn't see well because other people arrived and pretty much blocked the view.
That coupled with the bad language and alcohol from some of the low-lifes made it slightly uncomfortable.
On top of all this I actually thought the fireworks were good but I was expecting better from all the hype. New Year's Eve in Singapore over the Marina was more spectacular and our kids didn't really express many "wows" - even when I put them on my shoulders to see more clearly!.
Anyhow suffice to say that a simple cost/benefit analysis means that we won't be repeating the experience this year! (We might stand on the balcony and gaze at Hillary's)
Jan 12th 2007, 4:15 am
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I have several unrelated comments on this thread so far (none of which are Arkon-bashing - there are enough doing that ):
In 6 pages I only counted one post (not until the 23rd - well done Vash) actually refers to the significance of Australia Day (and yet so many people are ranting on about citizenship - no one mentioned responsibilities that come with it like fighting for Australia in a war)
We have friends who have applied for their citizenship in the ward of Joondalup and the waiting list is about 6 months.
What is the obsession with fireworks??? We went to the ones at Hillarys before Xmas - spent two hours waiting for them and 45 minutes getting out of the car park just for 15 minutes of flash / bang
I have no idea why anyone would want to go into the city for Skyworks in the small hours to set up a camp site so they can be sit in the middle of a riot caused by pi55ed up teenagers just for said fireworks.
):In 6 pages I only counted one post (not until the 23rd - well done Vash) actually refers to the significance of Australia Day
(and yet so many people are ranting on about citizenship - no one mentioned responsibilities that come with it like fighting for Australia in a war)We have friends who have applied for their citizenship in the ward of Joondalup and the waiting list is about 6 months.
What is the obsession with fireworks??? We went to the ones at Hillarys before Xmas - spent two hours waiting for them and 45 minutes getting out of the car park just for 15 minutes of flash / bang
I have no idea why anyone would want to go into the city for Skyworks in the small hours to set up a camp site so they can be sit in the middle of a riot caused by pi55ed up teenagers just for said fireworks.
Jan 12th 2007, 4:57 am
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Anybody who has applied or who is considering applying, is made very aware of the rights and responsibilities of citizenship of Australia. And I don't see any harm in discussing Australia day citizenship ceremonies on a british ex pats forum. It is has been widely known for many years that these ceremonies are commonly held on Australia day. These forums always meander around various viewpoints and topics, that's normal.
Jan 12th 2007, 5:55 am
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Does anybody know if this is accurate?
Jan 12th 2007, 6:05 am
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I can say absolutely definitively that if at least one parent is PR (or "eligible" NZ citizen) when the child is born, then Australia-born child is automatically an Australian citizen.
But this shows that there are people out there who assert with great confidence that if parents are not Australian, then child isn't either.
That's why it's so important - especially if parents are PR/eligible NZ - to get the child an Australian citizenship certificate (using form 119) to prove his or her Australian citizenship when this viewpoint is encountered during the child's life. Especially if that other person is a badly informed government official, employer, education official etc.
But this shows that there are people out there who assert with great confidence that if parents are not Australian, then child isn't either.
That's why it's so important - especially if parents are PR/eligible NZ - to get the child an Australian citizenship certificate (using form 119) to prove his or her Australian citizenship when this viewpoint is encountered during the child's life. Especially if that other person is a badly informed government official, employer, education official etc.
I say if your kids are entitled to it, get it now. It will be far easier just after they are born and armed with the blue book than in 20 years time when the blue book is nowhere to be found, parents might be dead and burried also.
Jan 12th 2007, 6:07 am
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Did you know, interesting fact coming up here, that Australian citizenship only came into being in 1949? That is less than 60 years, I was amazed, don't know why, but I was! I am assuming that all in Australia were British subjects prior to this?
Does anybody know if this is accurate?
Does anybody know if this is accurate?
http://www.immi.gov.au/allforms/pdf/975i.pdf
Even more amazing - I still remember being shocked in the Immigration museum in Melbourne to read that Aboriginals were classed as animals rather than people until the late 60's.
Jan 12th 2007, 6:11 am
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Yep.
http://www.immi.gov.au/allforms/pdf/975i.pdf
Even more amazing - I still remember being shocked in the Immigration museum in Melbourne to read that Aboriginals were classed as animals rather than people until the late 60's.
http://www.immi.gov.au/allforms/pdf/975i.pdf
Even more amazing - I still remember being shocked in the Immigration museum in Melbourne to read that Aboriginals were classed as animals rather than people until the late 60's.
Whoa, that is shocking, animals?
Jan 12th 2007, 7:42 am
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Yep.
http://www.immi.gov.au/allforms/pdf/975i.pdf
Even more amazing - I still remember being shocked in the Immigration museum in Melbourne to read that Aboriginals were classed as animals rather than people until the late 60's.
http://www.immi.gov.au/allforms/pdf/975i.pdf
Even more amazing - I still remember being shocked in the Immigration museum in Melbourne to read that Aboriginals were classed as animals rather than people until the late 60's.
Jan 12th 2007, 8:06 am
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They (Aboriginals) were actually classed as "flora and fauna", not 'animals'. Not that it makes it any the better....
Jan 12th 2007, 8:25 am
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Jan 12th 2007, 8:26 am
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This particular Australia Day, I will be travelling back from Canberra with a bunch of kids that I've taken to a camp there
Jan 12th 2007, 11:23 am
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And there are posters on here who whinge that Australia has no history? A case of can't be arsed to look or care if you ask me...
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Jan 12th 2007, 11:48 am
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Thanks JAJ, We were told on more than one occasion to make sure he gets his certificate now even though he probably would never need it, mainly because far too many people don't know the facts and it might cause him trouble in the future if he didn't have it. So we got him his certificate but even on the phone trying to get it we had an argument with the Aussie at the other end telling us not to bother, don't waste your money etc.
I say if your kids are entitled to it, get it now. It will be far easier just after they are born and armed with the blue book than in 20 years time when the blue book is nowhere to be found, parents might be dead and burried also.
I say if your kids are entitled to it, get it now. It will be far easier just after they are born and armed with the blue book than in 20 years time when the blue book is nowhere to be found, parents might be dead and burried also.