An apology to asylum seekers
Aug 6th 2014, 5:33 pm
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The resolution only passed because Russia insisted they take out any blame for themselves, and they are now blithely ignoring it anyway. It sounded good at the time though.
Aug 6th 2014, 5:37 pm
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What?? You're delusional. All governments were calling for access to the site. Russia had no control over it as they weren't involved. Russian backed rebels are not Russians. It's easy to speak into a microphone and state the obvious. Are you suggesting that Bob Carr or Kevin Rudd would have said 'I'm sure we'll get access eventually'?
It's amazing just how easily you are impressed by people.
It's amazing just how easily you are impressed by people.
This resolution survived Russia’s power of veto. A real setback for them and there ambition to take old of eastern and southern Urkraine.
Anyway, she got a thumbs up from her counterpart in Holland.
Dutch Foreign Minister Timmermans thanked Bishop for her initiative on the resolution, which he said would not have happened without her perseverance, and committed that the two countries would “not rest” until the resolution was achieved.
Aug 6th 2014, 5:44 pm
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Imagine Kev up there ...... no thanks
This resolution survived Russia’s power of veto. A real setback for them and there ambition to take old of eastern and southern Urkraine.
Anyway, she got a thumbs up from her counterpart in Holland.
Dutch Foreign Minister Timmermans thanked Bishop for her initiative on the resolution, which he said would not have happened without her perseverance, and committed that the two countries would “not rest” until the resolution was achieved.
This resolution survived Russia’s power of veto. A real setback for them and there ambition to take old of eastern and southern Urkraine.
Anyway, she got a thumbs up from her counterpart in Holland.
Dutch Foreign Minister Timmermans thanked Bishop for her initiative on the resolution, which he said would not have happened without her perseverance, and committed that the two countries would “not rest” until the resolution was achieved.
Also, Kevin Rudd has far more influence internationally than Julie Bishop has and I'd guess it will most likely remain that way.
Aug 6th 2014, 5:52 pm
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This is the actual resolution
https://australia-unsc.gov.au/2014/0...rlines-flight/
That hasn't happened
Nor that
Tragically, the mission to achieve that had to be called off today before all the victims could be found.
Hmm. Doesn't look like it.
Well they're trying their best if you consider killing all the Ukranians bringing the conflict to an end
She's right. But its not happening.
Talks a good game. Achieves very little.
https://australia-unsc.gov.au/2014/0...rlines-flight/
Our resolution demands that armed groups in control of the crash site provide safe access immediately to allow for the recovery of the bodies, and that these armed groups stop any actions that compromise the integrity of the crash site. This is imperative.
There must be a ceasefire in the immediate area around the site.
The victims must be treated with dignity, brought back to their homes and laid to rest.
All parties are required to fully cooperate with these efforts. Russia must use its influence over the separatists to ensure this.
Russia must also use its influence to bring the conflict in Ukraine to an end.
The resolution acknowledges the investigations already under way. It demands that safe, secure, full and unrestricted access to the crash site be provided so the investigating authorities can carry out their work. It is despicable that this access is not being provided. It is an affront to the victims and their families. All states, armed groups – everyone – must cooperate with the investigation.
Talks a good game. Achieves very little.
Aug 6th 2014, 5:52 pm
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I went to a talk by Tim Costello at Canberra Uni yesterday: I was probably the only right of center bloke there (g). He is not noticeably liberal in the Australian sense, and was right on the ball in his analysis of what's wrong with the capitalist growth paradigm. Unfortunately, like all left wingers, he is far better at describing the problems than coming up with solutions. Reminded me of this thread.
Aug 6th 2014, 6:02 pm
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I went to a talk by Tim Costello at Canberra Uni yesterday: I was probably the only right of center bloke there (g). He is not noticeably liberal in the Australian sense, and was right on the ball in his analysis of what's wrong with the capitalist growth paradigm. Unfortunately, like all left wingers, he is far better at describing the problems than coming up with solutions. Reminded me of this thread.
Can we and should we do more of asylum seekers than we currently are?
Aug 6th 2014, 6:43 pm
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This is the actual resolution
https://australia-unsc.gov.au/2014/0...rlines-flight/
That hasn't happened
Nor that
Tragically, the mission to achieve that had to be called off today before all the victims could be found.
Hmm. Doesn't look like it.
Well they're trying their best if you consider killing all the Ukranians bringing the conflict to an end
She's right. But its not happening.
Talks a good game. Achieves very little.
https://australia-unsc.gov.au/2014/0...rlines-flight/
That hasn't happened
Nor that
Tragically, the mission to achieve that had to be called off today before all the victims could be found.
Hmm. Doesn't look like it.
Well they're trying their best if you consider killing all the Ukranians bringing the conflict to an end
She's right. But its not happening.
Talks a good game. Achieves very little.
This is quite humorous
Aug 6th 2014, 6:45 pm
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whoa there fella ..... off on a tangent again. ..... The only "I" Wol claimed was that he went to talk at Canberra Uni.
Aug 6th 2014, 6:45 pm
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The people that do are the ones that deserve a medal. I don't really respect anyone that insists on others carrying guns when they don't have to. But that's for another discussion.
Aug 6th 2014, 6:51 pm
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No not only not fun and totally wrong and don't rely on wikileaks for what is going on inside the centres. So any excess of power in your books is ok to reach a possible goal? Many in history have thought the same.
Aug 6th 2014, 6:55 pm
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Aug 6th 2014, 6:56 pm
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