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lumpommer Jul 25th 2013 6:00 pm

Anyone quitting Aus due to the high cost of living
 
Sometimes I think I would like to move there but I think at the moment the country is a rip off.

Brits spend thousands getting visas, emmigrate, stay for a couple of years and struggle because of no or low paid work.

Extortionate housing and food and living costs eat away at savings.

So what if the weather is better all year round is it worth it if it is financial suicide.

After a couple of years they leave and a new platoon of immigrants come over the hill to replace them.

To me Immigration is a scam. And Australia makes millions out of it.

People need to wake up and think about the nightmare and not the dream.

:ohmy:

roaringmouse Jul 25th 2013 6:21 pm

Re: Anyone quitting Aus due to the high cost of living
 
Echo Echo Echo Echo Echo Echo Echo

Pollyana Jul 25th 2013 8:18 pm

Re: Anyone quitting Aus due to the high cost of living
 

Originally Posted by roaringmouse (Post 10819152)
Echo Echo Echo Echo Echo Echo Echo

:popcorn: :zzz:

http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?t=737883


http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?t=698349

WelshSarah Jul 25th 2013 8:35 pm

Re: Anyone quitting Aus due to the high cost of living
 
Owned!! Lol!!

We pay a lot to see that big yellow sun in the sky hey!!

But would I change it, nope!! Just worker harder with a big smile on me chops!!

sonlymewalter Jul 25th 2013 9:16 pm

Re: Anyone quitting Aus due to the high cost of living
 
at times I wish I could use a lump hammer on certain posters :banghead: he keeps posting this same question can't we just delete it this time mate:cry_smile:

RedDragon2008 Jul 25th 2013 10:01 pm

Re: Anyone quitting Aus due to the high cost of living
 
Tax rate at 45% to tax rate of 0% :)

Mike at Taree Jul 25th 2013 10:41 pm

Re: Anyone quitting Aus due to the high cost of living
 
Currently I'm a carer and on a pension plus a bit of super. Anyone on a pension gets (if renting) around A$900 a fortnight and their caree gets around $860 a fortnight with cheap prescriptions, can travel anywhere in NSW for $2.50, pays no car rego, free ambulance, electricity rebate, two free donuts with a cup of coffee at Donut King :thumbup: etc etc. If I were a sole breadwinner, paying tax and full prescriptions, full rent, rego, full electricity, my own donuts etc I calculate I would need to be grossing around $80K to maintain identical lifestyle.

As I worked in the UK for quite a few years I'll be eligible for a part pension next year so well aware of the social security situation in UK: Current UK pension rate around A$400 a fortnight as well as having to pay $2.60 a litre for petrol. Won't be going back anytime soon.

Probably been said before but it's comparing apples with oranges. A bit like the Americans and Australians who marry Philippinas, move there for a cheap lifestyle then complain that it's far more expensive than they were led to believe because they try to replicate the lifestyle from back home in all its minute details, instead of going "local".

Not quite the case in Australia but you know what I mean. I really believe you should just cut that tie otherwise you are always mentally bound to the old place and everything tends to get put through the filter of "this is different to the old country". What a waste of grey matter when you could be using it to learn the Cello or something. :p

Mike at Taree Jul 25th 2013 10:47 pm

Re: Anyone quitting Aus due to the high cost of living
 
Erm, has the OP ever been here?

Zen10 Jul 25th 2013 11:04 pm

Re: Anyone quitting Aus due to the high cost of living
 
Australia is expensive, but it's inflation is roughly the same as everywhere else in the Western world. Wages are generally higher in Australia to compensate, but certain things are subject to the general economy of scale, so Aussie will always be an expensive place. If houses were priced sensibly here people would have more money to spend on the high street, instead all their wages go to the banks every month like in the UK. This is a matter of government regulation, but government is owned by the banks. It's what it is.

Dreamy Jul 25th 2013 11:12 pm

Re: Anyone quitting Aus due to the high cost of living
 

Originally Posted by Mike at Taree (Post 10819487)
Erm, has the OP ever been here?

You've not been here (on the forum) that long, Mike... the OP only has one type of post and this is it.

(And probably not)

Mike at Taree Jul 25th 2013 11:20 pm

Re: Anyone quitting Aus due to the high cost of living
 
Sounds like some of the guys on the home brew forums who start a new thread every few months, despite having been offered reams of good advice "Why isn't my airlock bubbling?"

;)

KJCherokee Jul 26th 2013 3:44 am

Re: Anyone quitting Aus due to the high cost of living
 
You've got to admire lumpommer's consistency - nearly three years and his opinion hasn't changed by as much as a single word! Not many politicians could make the same claim.

Although you have to wonder why he bothers.

sonlymewalter Jul 26th 2013 3:46 am

Re: Anyone quitting Aus due to the high cost of living
 

Originally Posted by KJCherokee (Post 10819722)
You've got to admire lumpommer's consistency - nearly three years and his opinion hasn't changed by as much as a single word! Not many politicians could make the same claim.

Although you have to wonder why he bothers.

i reckon they let him out of the asylum every now and again and hes forgot he mentioned it last time:D

Graham and Maria Jul 26th 2013 3:51 am

Re: Anyone quitting Aus due to the high cost of living
 

Originally Posted by Mike at Taree (Post 10819524)
Sounds like some of the guys on the home brew forums

Which forums would they be? (from an avid HB'er)

Austrailia is mega expensive, good job they generally pay mega wages to compensate ;)

Mike at Taree Jul 26th 2013 4:16 am

Re: Anyone quitting Aus due to the high cost of living
 

Originally Posted by Graham and Maria (Post 10819728)
Which forums would they be? (from an avid HB'er)

Austrailia is mega expensive, good job they generally pay mega wages to compensate ;)

I was on AHB (Aussie Home Brewer) until recently but left as it's become a troll's paradise. Much prefer the more gentlemanly forums such as Homebrewdownunder which is undergoing a renaissance thanks to refugees from AHB. Also Jim's Home Brew Kit in the UK.
I believe they are trying to get a Sunny Coast club or group going based at the Sunshine Coast Brewery.

Graham and Maria Jul 26th 2013 6:45 am

Re: Anyone quitting Aus due to the high cost of living
 
Thanks Mike,
I generally only lurk on AHB, I post more on Coopers but I will now check out Homebrewdownunder :thumbsup:

brits1 Jul 26th 2013 7:08 am

Re: Anyone quitting Aus due to the high cost of living
 

Originally Posted by lumpommer (Post 10819126)
Sometimes I think I would like to move there but I think at the moment the country is a rip off.

Brits spend thousands getting visas, emmigrate, stay for a couple of years and struggle because of no or low paid work.

Extortionate housing and food and living costs eat away at savings.

So what if the weather is better all year round is it worth it if it is financial suicide.

After a couple of years they leave and a new platoon of immigrants come over the hill to replace them.

To me Immigration is a scam. And Australia makes millions out of it.

People need to wake up and think about the nightmare and not the dream.

:ohmy:

Hi,

We met quite a few migrants (especially the newer ones) who were really struggling with the cost of living in Aus....some were really sticking to a budget and some were planning a return home, I suppose it all depends on how much you really want to make something work and there is nothing wrong with either of these ways of thoughts etc. We did find Perth was so much more expensive than when we first arrived years ago and we both (my DOH) earned a high income as well. If I was migrating now I would certainly (we hardly did anyone homework when we migrated ....oh to be so young again lol)take in to consideration costs, salaries, homes etc as no matter the sunshine I would still like the lifestyle we have/had but each to their own.

Sashi Jul 26th 2013 3:20 pm

Re: Anyone quitting Aus due to the high cost of living
 
Dae Ja Vu, I thought I had read the OP a while back.

I do think the OP has a valid point, Immigration to Aus may to some seem like a scam, however I value the freedom of choice that it gives to people who do want to make the move. Imagine if all the borders were closed!!

We are lucky to have a choice of where we want to live in the world to a certain extent, its up to the individual to carry out the research first and make an informed choice.

I am dreading the expense, but am still going for it,

I hope I dont have to come back to the UK with my tail between my legs, but if I do at least I did it as oppose to just talk about it and live in regret of never going.

Mike at Taree Jul 27th 2013 12:45 am

Re: Anyone quitting Aus due to the high cost of living
 
Back in the 1970s a lot of migrants would arrive (Australia actually used to do assisted passage - the Ten Pound Poms) and you had to stay a year otherwise you had to refund the full cost.

Then many would go back to the UK but after a couple of years, guess what, here they are again (but at their own expense).

It was commonly called "The two thousand dollar cure" :p

Margaret3 Jul 27th 2013 5:28 am

Re: Anyone quitting Aus due to the high cost of living
 

Originally Posted by sonlymewalter (Post 10819366)
at times I wish I could use a lump hammer on certain posters :banghead: he keeps posting this same question can't we just delete it this time mate:cry_smile:

:lol:

Mike at Taree Jul 27th 2013 6:03 am

Re: Anyone quitting Aus due to the high cost of living
 

Originally Posted by Graham and Maria (Post 10819861)
Thanks Mike,
I generally only lurk on AHB, I post more on Coopers but I will now check out Homebrewdownunder :thumbsup:

Graham weren't we on a train together once after getting ratted at the Scratch bar or wherever it was ? :eek::eek:

La Vida loca Jul 27th 2013 6:29 am

Re: Anyone quitting Aus due to the high cost of living
 
What makes me laugh here, is people chase a dream, of big houses with pools on the beach, jetskis, cars, holidays etc.

Sometimes people migrating need to align themselves with a similar financial standing as in UK, suburb, surroundings, and ask are you happy with it.

Just because you migrate doesnt mean you get better jobs, houses, and lifestyle....

Yes its sunny, but you have to work still... and you cant eat the sand or a McMansion.

RedDragon2008 Jul 27th 2013 7:08 am

Re: Anyone quitting Aus due to the high cost of living
 

Originally Posted by La Vida loca (Post 10821343)
What makes me laugh here, is people chase a dream, of big houses with pools on the beach, jetskis, cars, holidays etc.

Sometimes people migrating need to align themselves with a similar financial standing as in UK, suburb, surroundings, and ask are you happy with it.

Just because you migrate doesnt mean you get better jobs, houses, and lifestyle....

Yes its sunny, but you have to work still... and you cant eat the sand or a McMansion.

No but the shit smells better downunder:eek:

Cheetah7 Jul 27th 2013 7:12 am

Re: Anyone quitting Aus due to the high cost of living
 

Originally Posted by KJCherokee (Post 10819722)
You've got to admire lumpommer's consistency - nearly three years and his opinion hasn't changed by as much as a single word! Not many politicians could make the same claim.

Although you have to wonder why he bothers.

He hasnt done a 'housing crash' thread in a while or 'the mining boom is about to end'.

:lol:

sonlymewalter Jul 27th 2013 10:22 am

Re: Anyone quitting Aus due to the high cost of living
 

Originally Posted by Cheetah7 (Post 10821366)
He hasnt done a 'housing crash' thread in a while or 'the mining boom is about to end'.

:lol:

oh gawd don't start him off again mate :banghead: :cry_smile:

Pollyana Jul 27th 2013 10:31 am

Re: Anyone quitting Aus due to the high cost of living
 

Originally Posted by sonlymewalter (Post 10821559)
oh gawd don't start him off again mate :banghead: :cry_smile:

Ach don't worry, we'll soon take it nicely off topic again - I mean this one ended up talking about home brew :D

sonlymewalter Jul 27th 2013 10:37 am

Re: Anyone quitting Aus due to the high cost of living
 

Originally Posted by Pollyana (Post 10821568)
Ach don't worry, we'll soon take it nicely off topic again - I mean this one ended up talking about home brew :D

:D what about lettuce and the weather we haven't discussed those in a while:lol:

Pollyana Jul 27th 2013 10:42 am

Re: Anyone quitting Aus due to the high cost of living
 

Originally Posted by sonlymewalter (Post 10821577)
:D what about lettuce and the weather we haven't discussed those in a while:lol:

And bananas....don't forget the bananas.....

Mike at Taree Jul 27th 2013 11:10 am

Re: Anyone quitting Aus due to the high cost of living
 
Don't talk to me about bloody bananas.

North of Coffs Harbour is a major banana producing area around Woolgoolga that was established by Indian Immigrants (legal, not boat people, see other thread :o ) and as well as a magnificent temple they ran a beautiful Indian Restaurant. Last time I stayed in Woolgoolga, Cyclone Larry had just gone through North QLD and wiped out the banana crop. So bananas went to $15 a kilo and the unscathed banana farmers in Woolgoolga made a killing for a year or more.

The sad result was that: why bust your bum cooking in a restaurant when you can be out there helping uncle and making literally millions, so the restaurant closed down.

It was the best Indian apart from Cardiff. (the Real Cardiff) :frown::frown:

brissybee Jul 27th 2013 11:12 am

Re: Anyone quitting Aus due to the high cost of living
 
Did anyone ever watch Alias Smith and Jones?

Just thought I'd ask.

Mike at Taree Jul 27th 2013 11:19 am

Re: Anyone quitting Aus due to the high cost of living
 
I've just realised that John Nettles is not the main actor in Foyle's War and that Midsomer Murders is not the same show as Inspector Morse.

I don't know where Inspektor Rex fits into this.

roaringmouse Jul 27th 2013 11:27 am

Re: Anyone quitting Aus due to the high cost of living
 

Originally Posted by Pollyana (Post 10821581)
And bananas....don't forget the bananas.....

The taste of Australian chocolate too, and in particular the comparison between Cadburys of both countries.

brissybee Jul 27th 2013 11:29 am

Re: Anyone quitting Aus due to the high cost of living
 
I want to know what ever happened to all those up and coming young stars who used to appear in Tiger Beat magazine.

I mean, Vincent Van Patten. Him and the others. Them.

Mike at Taree Jul 27th 2013 11:31 am

Re: Anyone quitting Aus due to the high cost of living
 

Originally Posted by roaringmouse (Post 10821638)
The taste of Australian chocolate too, and in particular the comparison between Cadburys of both countries.

I worked for Allen's Sweets in the 90s and have toured Cadburys as an incentive programme "reward". Apart from freezing my &rse off in Tas, I found out that it's all in the milk - UK milk is more "Jersey" and would be prohibitively expensive to source the same milk here.

brissybee Jul 27th 2013 11:34 am

Re: Anyone quitting Aus due to the high cost of living
 

Originally Posted by Mike at Taree (Post 10821643)
I worked for Allen's Sweets in the 90s and have toured Cadburys as an incentive programme "reward". Apart from freezing my &rse off in Tas, I found out that it's all in the milk - UK milk is more "Jersey" and would be prohibitively expensive to source the same milk here.

Do they use cows hooves for the gelatine in those sweets?

brissybee Jul 27th 2013 11:35 am

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Oh, by the way... I found Vincent.

Mike at Taree Jul 27th 2013 12:50 pm

Re: Anyone quitting Aus due to the high cost of living
 

Originally Posted by brissybee (Post 10821645)
Do they use cows hooves for the gelatine in those sweets?

It's an urban myth that gelatine is made out of hooves, it's made from hides. Same as McKenzies gelating for cooking. The gelatine used in Allens sweets is halal, so I guess the cows have their throats slit whilst facing Mecca. Enjoy your snakes and jelly beans. :thumbup:

old.sparkles Jul 27th 2013 1:08 pm

Re: Anyone quitting Aus due to the high cost of living
 

Originally Posted by Mike at Taree (Post 10821717)
It's an urban myth that gelatine is made out of hooves, it's made from hides. Same as McKenzies gelating for cooking. The gelatine used in Allens sweets is halal, so I guess the cows have their throats slit whilst facing Mecca. Enjoy your snakes and jelly beans. :thumbup:

gelatin - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gelatin

brissybee Jul 27th 2013 1:18 pm

Re: Anyone quitting Aus due to the high cost of living
 
Who in their wildest imagination would come up with the idea of turning cow hide into jelly snakes ffs. :lol:

Pollyana Jul 27th 2013 1:39 pm

Re: Anyone quitting Aus due to the high cost of living
 

Originally Posted by Mike at Taree (Post 10821643)
I worked for Allen's Sweets in the 90s and have toured Cadburys as an incentive programme "reward". Apart from freezing my &rse off in Tas, I found out that it's all in the milk - UK milk is more "Jersey" and would be prohibitively expensive to source the same milk here.

An ex of mine did all the designing for the air con system at Cadburys in Tassie, he told me the same, plus the fact that the percentage of cocoa is different in chocolate here, because that gives the finished product a higher melting point :thumbup:


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