Melbourne Winter Weather?
#76
Re: Melbourne Winter Weather?
But you're doing exactly the same with Brisbane...it's really not as bad as a lot of people make out, many, many days in summer are absolutely fine & bearable.
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Re: Melbourne Winter Weather?
If you read some of the posts by people who live in Melbourne you might get an idea...a whole lot of exaggeratin!
But you're doing exactly the same with Brisbane...it's really not as bad as a lot of people make out, many, many days in summer are absolutely fine & bearable.
But you're doing exactly the same with Brisbane...it's really not as bad as a lot of people make out, many, many days in summer are absolutely fine & bearable.
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Re: Melbourne Winter Weather?
If you read some of the posts by people who live in Melbourne you might get an idea...a whole lot of exaggeratin!
But you're doing exactly the same with Brisbane...it's really not as bad as a lot of people make out, many, many days in summer are absolutely fine & bearable.
But you're doing exactly the same with Brisbane...it's really not as bad as a lot of people make out, many, many days in summer are absolutely fine & bearable.
The problem with Melbourne and other warmer Australian cities is the heating problem, they don't have the central heating concept even in fr*kkin Melbourne. It can feel cold in winter in Brisbane too, because people rely on little electric heaters or air conditioners if they are lucky. So it feels a lot colder than it actually is. Is that the case in Europe?
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Re: Melbourne Winter Weather?
The problem with Melbourne and other warmer Australian cities is the heating problem, they don't have the central heating concept even in fr*kkin Melbourne. It can feel cold in winter in Brisbane too, because people rely on little electric heaters or air conditioners if they are lucky. So it feels a lot colder than it actually is. Is that the case in Europe?
(I grew up in a cold house and it didn't do me any harm. Character building. In fact it helped me deal with cold conditions working outside later on in life! So now we have a wood burner I thank my lucky stars...)
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Not sure where this 'Melbourne hot in summer' reputation has come from. Last summer there were 23 days above 30C (25%), 13 days above 35C (14%) and one over 40C. (around 1%)
That leaves 67 days or 75% of days under 30C maximum. Last summer was well above average temperature wise as well.
Brisbane on the other hand had 55 days out of 90 above 30C (61%), 10 of those days we re above 33C as well, the lowest maximum recorded for the whole of summer was 26C in December.
That's the big difference, Melbourne might get the odd period of very hot weather with some extreme days but in Brisbane it is day after day, inescapable and combined with constant humidity.
Crystal clear sunny day in Melbourne today with no wind, so not quite the dreary hole that some people from up north seem to think it is.
That leaves 67 days or 75% of days under 30C maximum. Last summer was well above average temperature wise as well.
Brisbane on the other hand had 55 days out of 90 above 30C (61%), 10 of those days we re above 33C as well, the lowest maximum recorded for the whole of summer was 26C in December.
That's the big difference, Melbourne might get the odd period of very hot weather with some extreme days but in Brisbane it is day after day, inescapable and combined with constant humidity.
Crystal clear sunny day in Melbourne today with no wind, so not quite the dreary hole that some people from up north seem to think it is.
So lets put Brisbane's worst season, summer, against Melbourne's worst, winter. That is the "big difference". Some will prefer to suffer through a sweaty summer to get the other 3 non humid summer seasons (daytime), some would rather put up with the freezing winter to avoid humidity altogether....all about choice.
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Re: Melbourne Winter Weather?
Brisbane's best summer is the spring one. The autumn summer is great too. The winter summer is mostly awesome. The summer summer is the worst one....but still lots of good days. Every month of the year averages somewhere in the 20's.....not something I'd expect you one summer people to understand.
So lets put Brisbane's worst season, summer, against Melbourne's worst, winter. That is the "big difference". Some will prefer to suffer through a sweaty summer to get the other 3 non humid summer seasons (daytime), some would rather put up with the freezing winter to avoid humidity altogether....all about choice.
So lets put Brisbane's worst season, summer, against Melbourne's worst, winter. That is the "big difference". Some will prefer to suffer through a sweaty summer to get the other 3 non humid summer seasons (daytime), some would rather put up with the freezing winter to avoid humidity altogether....all about choice.
Brisbane can get uncomfortable in summer, but if you drive down to Gold Coast or if living there, you will notice a nice sea breeze difference.
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Re: Melbourne Winter Weather?
The bigger problem is lack of insulation which means the houses cool down quickly too. This can of course be installed by the occupant should they wish.
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Summer in Brisbane - worst memory simply the perspiration from the 40 degrees and having to find the nearest air conditioned mall - and Melbourne it would be the sleet.
Brissie can get a bit too predictable - when we lived there we yearned for clouds - whereas even last summer in Melbourne we had some very pleasant days amidst the usual grey and showery weather.
For me Melbourne has the variety and the seasons - Victoria for us.
Brissie can get a bit too predictable - when we lived there we yearned for clouds - whereas even last summer in Melbourne we had some very pleasant days amidst the usual grey and showery weather.
For me Melbourne has the variety and the seasons - Victoria for us.
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Re: Melbourne Winter Weather?
I have lived in Melbourne 3 years and I have rarely if ever been to a house that does not have central heating (Badge's house may be the exception). I have only been to 2 that have radiators but all the rest have ducted heating which I quite like as it heats up quickly and doesn't take up wall space.
The bigger problem is lack of insulation which means the houses cool down quickly too. This can of course be installed by the occupant should they wish.
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The bigger problem is lack of insulation which means the houses cool down quickly too. This can of course be installed by the occupant should they wish.
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Plus as it is rented we unfortunately cannot just instal insulation if we wish.
The plus point is that we dont need air-con in the summer so dont end up with huge power bills!
Fortunately we are about to move into our new house which should be a bit cosier.
Really annoying thing is everyone keeps saying stuff like - "oh but your scottish you must be used to it? Isnt this like a summers day in scotland?" - (and then collapse in laughter at their own comedic abilities.)
Hmm. just because we are used to the cold doesn't mean we actually like it or want it!!
Plus our house in Scotland was double glazed, well insulated and had very good central heating.
Right, now im going to go and put my scarf and gloves on and watch some telly.....
(and before anyone suggests a move to another, warmer, part of aus - we had to come to Melbourne because that is where OH's employer needed him.)
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Re: Melbourne Winter Weather?
I quite like my weather.... none of the extremes that everybody else seems to complain about.
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My reply to that non funny line is...well yes I'm used to it, but NOT INDOORS! Then they look suitably offended. Strike One!
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Re: Melbourne Winter Weather?
I may be a southern nancy b@stard, and I do like living here but I'm with Scotdownunder: If another Aussie says to me, "You're a pom, you ought to be used to it", I am going to chin him/her.
My reply to that non funny line is...well yes I'm used to it, but NOT INDOORS! Then they look suitably offended. Strike One!
My reply to that non funny line is...well yes I'm used to it, but NOT INDOORS! Then they look suitably offended. Strike One!
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Ducted heating..well..yes..good sytems work..crap ones don't.
But my point in replying is that especially with Australia apparantly being the land of asthma...those who have ducted heating, crap or otherwise need to be advised to clean it!! There are serious health implications with a dirty dusty blown air system.
Those with reverse cycle aircon...it really only heats the air, eventually the fabric of the house, that is if there is any fabric to start with. But the main pest is that most are positioned high up (for cooling in summer) and as we all know, heat rises.
The romans knew how to do it; heat from underneath.
Comment has been made of a lack of recirculated hot water central heating systems as per UK / most of Europe. After two years of internet searching, I finally found it on the net here and I have installed it. The boiler is Italian and is a 37 kw job. Whilst comparing kilowatts with btus is a bit like comparing apples and oranges, 37 kw is approx 90,000 btus. The radiators are Dutch and very modern in design. The pipework is a five layer compound and can be bent by hand. One company that supplies all this is:
http://autoheet.com.au/
Keep warm!
But my point in replying is that especially with Australia apparantly being the land of asthma...those who have ducted heating, crap or otherwise need to be advised to clean it!! There are serious health implications with a dirty dusty blown air system.
Those with reverse cycle aircon...it really only heats the air, eventually the fabric of the house, that is if there is any fabric to start with. But the main pest is that most are positioned high up (for cooling in summer) and as we all know, heat rises.
The romans knew how to do it; heat from underneath.
Comment has been made of a lack of recirculated hot water central heating systems as per UK / most of Europe. After two years of internet searching, I finally found it on the net here and I have installed it. The boiler is Italian and is a 37 kw job. Whilst comparing kilowatts with btus is a bit like comparing apples and oranges, 37 kw is approx 90,000 btus. The radiators are Dutch and very modern in design. The pipework is a five layer compound and can be bent by hand. One company that supplies all this is:
http://autoheet.com.au/
Keep warm!