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-   -   Why move to the US? (https://britishexpats.com/forum/usa-57/why-move-us-773422/)

kimilseung Oct 4th 2012 9:44 am
Re: Why move to the US?
 
Originally Posted by wvmtnr (Post 10313658)
One honest misconception here is everyone saying the US healthcare is piss poor. The healthcare is world class. You say it's poor because you aren't getting it for free. There is a big difference and it needs to be pointed out. Nothing in America is free. Everyone has to work hard to e a success.
I understand what you mean, but facts and figures indicate that health system in America is diabolical given the amount spent on it. As a nation it is not world class.

Some Individuals get world class care.

Zen10 Oct 4th 2012 10:09 am
Re: Why move to the US?
 
Originally Posted by wvmtnr (Post 10313658)
One honest misconception here is everyone saying the US healthcare is piss poor. The healthcare is world class. You say it's poor because you aren't getting it for free. There is a big difference and it needs to be pointed out. Nothing in America is free. Everyone has to work hard to e a success.
Seriously, I have a bridge that I'm trying to sell - second hand but superb condition. It connects Manhattan to Brooklyn and is really well built. $2 million. PM me.

N1cky Oct 4th 2012 10:19 am
Re: Why move to the US?
 
Originally Posted by wvmtnr (Post 10313658)
One honest misconception here is everyone saying the US healthcare is piss poor. The healthcare is world class. You say it's poor because you aren't getting it for free. There is a big difference and it needs to be pointed out. Nothing in America is free. Everyone has to work hard to e a success.
Healthcare that is not available to everybody is piss poor. Access should be a right not a luxury.

wvmtnr Oct 4th 2012 2:56 pm
Re: Why move to the US?
 
Originally Posted by MarylandNed (Post 10313839)
Yes - people often confuse healthcare with health insurance. The healthcare is world class IF you have access to it. If you have no health insurance (or a poor health insurance plan) it doesn't matter how good the healthcare is. The entire health insurance system is a mess of red tape, paperwork and inefficiency that wastes billions of dollars every year.
Here is one person who understands it. The healthcare is great! It's finding good insurance that's hard to do. But it's out there.

Zen10 Oct 4th 2012 2:59 pm
Re: Why move to the US?
 
Originally Posted by wvmtnr (Post 10314286)
Here is one person who understands it. The healthcare is great! It's finding good insurance that's hard to do. But it's out there.
Are you Mitt Romney? Be honest.

wvmtnr Oct 4th 2012 3:29 pm
Re: Why move to the US?
 
Originally Posted by Zen10 (Post 10314287)
Are you Mitt Romney? Be honest.
Yes. Yes I am. I love Big Bird.

Lion in Winter Oct 4th 2012 3:34 pm
Re: Why move to the US?
 
Originally Posted by wvmtnr (Post 10314311)
Yes. Yes I am. I love Big Bird.
Health care in the UK is not free. It's free at the point of delivery.

We all pay for it, via taxation and government investment,so that we can all get it when we need it. We call it "an advanced society."

PS: In the UK, it isn't called the "health care industry". Yes, the clue is in the name.

wvmtnr Oct 4th 2012 3:38 pm
Re: Why move to the US?
 
Originally Posted by Zen10 (Post 10314287)
Are you Mitt Romney? Be honest.
Originally Posted by Lion in Winter (Post 10314316)
Health care in the UK is not free. It's free at the point of delivery.

We all pay for it, via taxation and government investment,so that we can all get it when we need it. We call it "an advanced society."

PS: In the UK, it isn't called the "health care industry". Yes, the clue is in the name.
Lol. Thanks for stating the obvious. And thanks for the arrogance.

Lion in Winter Oct 4th 2012 3:43 pm
Re: Why move to the US?
 
Originally Posted by wvmtnr (Post 10314317)
Lol. Thanks for stating the obvious. And thanks for the arrogance.
I was merely answering your point, where you said US health care is not free, contrasting it with the UK.

But you are quite welcome.

wvmtnr Oct 4th 2012 3:49 pm
Re: Why move to the US?
 
Originally Posted by Lion in Winter (Post 10314323)
I was merely answering your point, where you said US health care is not free, contrasting it with the UK.

But you are quite welcome.
Yes, yes. We are all adults here. (I think). I just assumed everyone here knew by the word "free" it was understood that it is taxpayer funded. I guess some need to spell it out for some reason.

Zen10 Oct 4th 2012 5:23 pm
Re: Why move to the US?
 
Originally Posted by wvmtnr (Post 10314326)
Yes, yes. We are all adults here. (I think). I just assumed everyone here knew by the word "free" it was understood that it is taxpayer funded. I guess some need to spell it out for some reason.
When we say free we mean free at the point of delivery for everyone irrespective of age, employment status, or existing medical conditions. We support this system over the one that has 62 million people without healthcare, and routinely bankrupts people or makes them homeless, which is the private system you champion.

Just to clarify terms, etc.

Cape Blue Oct 4th 2012 5:56 pm
Re: Why move to the US?
 
Originally Posted by wvmtnr (Post 10314286)
Here is one person who understands it. The healthcare is great! It's finding good insurance that's hard to do. But it's out there.
It can be great, it can be mediocre. The US has the same issues with MRSA and all the other stuff as the NHS - just with the extra level of admin and insurance on-top.

RICH Oct 4th 2012 6:15 pm
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Insurance, as an industry, should be made a non profit endeavor. Health/car/ property etc. No one should profit from the principle.

We could call it National Insurance.

Wait. No. Nobody will go for that.

cluedweasel Oct 4th 2012 6:16 pm
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Talking of crappy healthcare, got a letter today telling me my premium is going up from $590 to $675 per month. And the coverage sucks too.

SDB1985 Oct 4th 2012 8:39 pm
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Personally I dont think either the UK system is right or the US. There needs to be more balance between the state contriubution and the end user's. The NHS will become increasinly more unaffordable as the population tends to older age. We need more people working to fund it - but thats not going to happen with out massive immigration which is politically a non-starter now. Thats not to say it shouldn't have a signficant subsidy as healthcare markets as demonstrated by the US are never competitive enough - mainly due to the massive information bias on the side of the provider


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