"We only hire US citizens"
Apr 22nd 2004, 7:59 pm
#31
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Originally posted by Pulaski
Gemaine it may be, but as illegal here in the US as it is in the UK. In this topsy-turvy world it is illegal for a haulage company interviewing applicants for a long distance trucking job to ask a single parent what arrangements they have for taking care of their children.
Gemaine it may be, but as illegal here in the US as it is in the UK. In this topsy-turvy world it is illegal for a haulage company interviewing applicants for a long distance trucking job to ask a single parent what arrangements they have for taking care of their children.
Yeppers .. its illegal to ask if you have children and if you are married ...let alone arrangements for the kids. I doubt very much that a single parent who didn't have arrangements for children would be applying for a long distance trucking anyway, but this personal stuff is none of the interviewer's business.
Apr 22nd 2004, 8:03 pm
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Originally posted by pilgrim22
Boy, you'd have done well on the old quiz show "Mastermind", with a Specialized Subject of "Stating the Bleeding Obvious"!
Boy, you'd have done well on the old quiz show "Mastermind", with a Specialized Subject of "Stating the Bleeding Obvious"!
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Apr 22nd 2004, 9:53 pm
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Originally posted by manc1976
So if they (low fare airline) only employ Permanent residents and citizens, why did you mention you only had an EAD at the time then.................
So if they (low fare airline) only employ Permanent residents and citizens, why did you mention you only had an EAD at the time then.................
The only exceptions relate to jobs requiring security clearances. It may be the case that airline jobs require security clearance, I don't know.
Apr 22nd 2004, 10:36 pm
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Originally posted by CalgaryAMC
Employers are nots permitted to discriminate against anyone with an EAD, regardless of EAD expiration date, and regardless of the person's status as a non-immigrant, permanent resident or citizen.
The only exceptions relate to jobs requiring security clearances. It may be the case that airline jobs require security clearance, I don't know.
Employers are nots permitted to discriminate against anyone with an EAD, regardless of EAD expiration date, and regardless of the person's status as a non-immigrant, permanent resident or citizen.
The only exceptions relate to jobs requiring security clearances. It may be the case that airline jobs require security clearance, I don't know.
Apr 23rd 2004, 12:12 am
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Originally posted by lairdside
Yes, I believe that they do, for obvious reasons
Yes, I believe that they do, for obvious reasons
Apr 23rd 2004, 12:28 am
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Originally posted by CalgaryAMC
I would imagine that staff interacting - for want of a better word - with aircraft and passenger baggage and so on would undergo security clearance. But airlines also employ accountants. He didn't state what the job he applied for was, so I don't know.
I would imagine that staff interacting - for want of a better word - with aircraft and passenger baggage and so on would undergo security clearance. But airlines also employ accountants. He didn't state what the job he applied for was, so I don't know.
Apr 23rd 2004, 2:13 am
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Originally posted by manc1976
So if they (low fare airline) only employ Permanent residents and citizens, why did you mention you only had an EAD at the time then.................
So if they (low fare airline) only employ Permanent residents and citizens, why did you mention you only had an EAD at the time then.................
Pardon me for being brutally honest about my immigration situation, esp. 6 months after 9/11 and applying for a job at an airline.
p22
PS I applied for a job in their IT dept, for those who are curious - security clearance was not required, although they wanted 10 years of job and residence history on the application form. Trying to remember where i was in college 10 years ago was a challenge....
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Apr 23rd 2004, 6:35 am
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But they don't hold anything against you, if you, just as a permanent resident, want to join the Army and go kill people in their own country whose names you can't even pronounce. The name of the country is another story.
Apr 23rd 2004, 6:30 pm
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Originally posted by Steff
NC-Penguin,
I know that the last job he applied for was a "data transciber" for some company called USIS. I just read on their web site that they are a private company but sometimes investigate for the government, so maybe that was why they told him that they only hire US citizens
He has applied for a couple other office assistant jobs and they also asked if he was a citizen (but did not say they only hire US citizens). I forget what companies they were for but they weren't related to the government or anything top secret! Just crappy normal office jobs!
I will ask him exactly what they were when he gets home.
NC-Penguin,
I know that the last job he applied for was a "data transciber" for some company called USIS. I just read on their web site that they are a private company but sometimes investigate for the government, so maybe that was why they told him that they only hire US citizens
He has applied for a couple other office assistant jobs and they also asked if he was a citizen (but did not say they only hire US citizens). I forget what companies they were for but they weren't related to the government or anything top secret! Just crappy normal office jobs!
I will ask him exactly what they were when he gets home.
Apr 23rd 2004, 6:34 pm
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Originally posted by CalgaryAMC
Employers are nots permitted to discriminate against anyone with an EAD, regardless of EAD expiration date, and regardless of the person's status as a non-immigrant, permanent resident or citizen.
The only exceptions relate to jobs requiring security clearances. It may be the case that airline jobs require security clearance, I don't know.
Employers are nots permitted to discriminate against anyone with an EAD, regardless of EAD expiration date, and regardless of the person's status as a non-immigrant, permanent resident or citizen.
The only exceptions relate to jobs requiring security clearances. It may be the case that airline jobs require security clearance, I don't know.
Apr 23rd 2004, 7:41 pm
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Originally posted by NC Penguin
Also, if companies are government contractors, and work in defense and related industries, it's probably a requirement that they be American citizens, purely for security reasons.
It's not meant to be discriminatory because as Duncan points out, the UK exercises similar rules.
To OP- Please describe the kind of job and employer that your spouse was applying for and to.
Also, if companies are government contractors, and work in defense and related industries, it's probably a requirement that they be American citizens, purely for security reasons.
It's not meant to be discriminatory because as Duncan points out, the UK exercises similar rules.
To OP- Please describe the kind of job and employer that your spouse was applying for and to.
Apr 25th 2004, 1:48 pm
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I remember being asked by Comair (a Delta carrier) if I had a "Green Card" already when I was looking for employment back in 2000. At that time I had an EAD but according to their rules, they could only employ Green Card holders.
I'm guessing the reson behind that was they are about to invest a load of money in training you and they don't want to lose you should there be a problem with your immigration status.
These days, just about all of the employment ads for pilots (yes I'm a pilot) say "must be authorized to work in USA" or something to that effect. Unfortunately, some are also saying must be a US Citizen only. They might have some government contracts I suppose..or it's a convienent way of not employing non-americans post 9-11. Especially in a "job recovery market".
Luckily, I'm in a company which has hired several immigrants over the years and is well established.
Good luck for those job-hunting.
I'm guessing the reson behind that was they are about to invest a load of money in training you and they don't want to lose you should there be a problem with your immigration status.
These days, just about all of the employment ads for pilots (yes I'm a pilot) say "must be authorized to work in USA" or something to that effect. Unfortunately, some are also saying must be a US Citizen only. They might have some government contracts I suppose..or it's a convienent way of not employing non-americans post 9-11. Especially in a "job recovery market".
Luckily, I'm in a company which has hired several immigrants over the years and is well established.
Good luck for those job-hunting.
Apr 26th 2004, 11:03 pm
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actually i think these ads are placed by companies who are sponsoring some's GC and advertising as a part the LC process.
just my 2 pence!
[QUOTE]Originally posted by pilgrim22
I see a lot of job postings say that they only consider USC's and Green Card holders.... I think this is mainly so they don't have to sponsor visas (H1-Bs and the like).
just my 2 pence!
[QUOTE]Originally posted by pilgrim22
I see a lot of job postings say that they only consider USC's and Green Card holders.... I think this is mainly so they don't have to sponsor visas (H1-Bs and the like).
Apr 27th 2004, 8:21 am
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by reallykool
actually i think these ads are placed by companies who are sponsoring some's GC and advertising as a part the LC process.
just my 2 pence!
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I agree that this may well be the case. It is still illegal.
actually i think these ads are placed by companies who are sponsoring some's GC and advertising as a part the LC process.
just my 2 pence!
Originally posted by pilgrim22
I see a lot of job postings say that they only consider USC's and Green Card holders.... I think this is mainly so they don't have to sponsor visas (H1-Bs and the like).
I see a lot of job postings say that they only consider USC's and Green Card holders.... I think this is mainly so they don't have to sponsor visas (H1-Bs and the like).
I agree that this may well be the case. It is still illegal.
