US not on the list of 12 - sigh
May 7th 2021, 10:34 pm
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Re: US not on the list of 12 - sigh
This is exactly what I hope they will do. I had hoped they were already discussing it and would have announced today, but no.
May 9th 2021, 10:12 pm
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But you are in Illinois and I'm in California, so there's a good chance those two states will fully adopt the notion of vaccine passport.
May 9th 2021, 11:44 pm
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This could be further complicated by the issue I raised in another thread recently - Florida has passed a law that no business operating in the state can require a vaccine as a condition of receiving a service. The subject of that particular article related to cruise ships (which are BIG business in Florida, of course), but I'm guessing airlines could be also affected? Now, I believe 'airline rules' are federal not state, so maybe Florida State cannot apply rules that apply to 'Federal matters' ...? Don't know.
But you are in Illinois and I'm in California, so there's a good chance those two states will fully adopt the notion of vaccine passport.
But you are in Illinois and I'm in California, so there's a good chance those two states will fully adopt the notion of vaccine passport.
Otoh, I'm doubtful that the Biden Administration would agree to a vaccination passport given the amount of pushback there generally has been on them.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-56657194
May 10th 2021, 2:14 am
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Re: US not on the list of 12 - sigh
This could be further complicated by the issue I raised in another thread recently - Florida has passed a law that no business operating in the state can require a vaccine as a condition of receiving a service. The subject of that particular article related to cruise ships (which are BIG business in Florida, of course), but I'm guessing airlines could be also affected? Now, I believe 'airline rules' are federal not state, so maybe Florida State cannot apply rules that apply to 'Federal matters' ...? Don't know.
But you are in Illinois and I'm in California, so there's a good chance those two states will fully adopt the notion of vaccine passport.
But you are in Illinois and I'm in California, so there's a good chance those two states will fully adopt the notion of vaccine passport.
Flights are governed by the FAA and so I don't think states have any authority. For example, the airplane mask mandate is just as enforceable in Texas etc even though those states have banned such a mandate.
Otoh, I'm doubtful that the Biden Administration would agree to a vaccination passport given the amount of pushback there generally has been on them.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-56657194
Otoh, I'm doubtful that the Biden Administration would agree to a vaccination passport given the amount of pushback there generally has been on them.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-56657194
Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's a federal matter. Presumably business is bringing pressure to bear.
May 10th 2021, 12:49 pm
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Re: US not on the list of 12 - sigh
Yes presumably it would be enforced by DHS not airlines.
vaccine passport may be less controversial if only applied to non-US citizens/LPRs - i.e. as way ro roll back Presidential proclamation on non US persons.
vaccine passport may be less controversial if only applied to non-US citizens/LPRs - i.e. as way ro roll back Presidential proclamation on non US persons.
May 10th 2021, 1:14 pm
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I think an option maybe "Covid safe" travel where travelers are subject to either Covid testing as they are now, or can exempt themselves from the tests with proof of full vaccination protection.
May 10th 2021, 6:32 pm
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First fully vaccinated flight carries passengers from Florida to New York (msn.com)
First fully vaccinated flight carries passengers from Florida to New York
I wonder what the issue is with regards to the airport terminal? Are all the shops / cafe's in a terminal also under federal rules? I wonder if, in a Florida airport, you can wander around maskless until you get to the gate? That would be crazy.
