kimilseung

The interesting questions are when and how did the new definitions develop. It is part of the political mythology, that helps people in America to accept the status quo; but to its actual origins, I have no knowledge.

robin1234

I was looking through an old issue of The New Yorker the other day, from the mid-1920s. Then, like now, the advertising in The New Yorker is blatantly aimed at very wealthy & privileged people. There was a full page ad promoting a new building in Manhattan where you could rent a luxury apartment.. the headline was something like "Only the right sort of people will live here.." or words to that effect. I'm assuming it meant no Jews need apply. At other times and places, no blacks; no Native Americans; no Italians; no Germans; no Chinese, etc. I think part of the reason for the "classless" nature of America is that there is always some group to be excluded so those of us invited to the table feel a certain equality..

Lola-Monmouth

Interesting. I tentatively hold the Marxist view of class. My parents were unskilled workers although my father was in the army for years and ended up as a Warrant Officer. However I have a degree and a professional qualification but still consider myself (aspirational) working class in the UK. My husband is upper middle class and I think if myself as middle class in the USA. Part of the reason I think of myself as English working class is my accent. Not only is it far from plummy it is northern. I can't think of anyone in the UK with a regional accent who would be considered upper middle class. Is accent relevant here too?

scrubbedexpat099

http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/collecti...gs4vy#p00hhrwl

There does not seem an embed option but this sums it up.