US: Immigrants May Be Held Indefinitely
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Re: US: Immigrants May Be Held Indefinitely
Originally Posted by jen_andreson
--not sure why that is so bad? Should illegal aliens be allowed to sue and receive punitive and compensatory damages?
This isn't about the rights of illegal immigrants. We all know that the US government doesn't really want to clamp down too much on illegal workers too much (i.e. just enough to satisfy Public Opinion).
Many of the businesses that ensured the election of GWB and his cronies rely on illegal workers. The real purpose of this law is to make it even easier for such businesses to exploit illegal workers (and at the same time make it appear as if they are tough on illegals).
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Re: US: Immigrants May Be Held Indefinitely
Originally Posted by Elvira
This isn't about the rights of illegal immigrants. We all know that the US government doesn't really want to clamp down too much on illegal workers too much (i.e. just enough to satisfy Public Opinion).
Many of the businesses that ensured the election of GWB and his cronies rely on illegal workers. The real purpose of this law is to make it even easier for such businesses to exploit illegal workers (and at the same time make it appear as if they are tough on illegals).
Many of the businesses that ensured the election of GWB and his cronies rely on illegal workers. The real purpose of this law is to make it even easier for such businesses to exploit illegal workers (and at the same time make it appear as if they are tough on illegals).
Can you elaborate? I ask as I didn't realise this was business driven.
The reading that I did on the issue said it came about mainly for private cases, so that if an illegal worker is hurt while working on private property the USC homeowner (for example) would not have to pay damages or be liable. As you know, punitive damages would normally be offered as a means of punishing the home-owner in such a case. This is separate to compensatory damages, which are not a part of the proposition. A precedent was set when a judge gave an illegal a USC owned home, as punitive compensation.
That raised a good point: is it appropriate for a citizen to lose his property to someone who isn't legally permitted to be in the US?
Those against the proposition raised a very good point: passage of this would mean that an illegal could not pursue punitive damages against a drunk driver, if the drunk driver hit the illegal immigrant and caused bodily harm. In a sense that means the drunk driver could receive a lighter penalty than if he/she hit a legal resident.
Last edited by jen_andreson; Nov 15th 2006 at 12:14 am.
#108
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Re: US: Immigrants May Be Held Indefinitely
Originally Posted by jen_andreson
Can you elaborate? I ask as I didn't realise this was business driven.
The reading that I did on the issue said it came about mainly for private cases, so that if an illegal worker is hurt while working on private property the USC homeowner (for example) would not have to pay damages or be liable. As you know, punitive damages would normally be offered as a means of punishing the home-owner in such a case. This is separate to compensatory damages, which are not a part of the proposition. A precedent was set when a judge gave an illegal a USC owned home, as punitive compensation.
That raised a good point: is it appropriate for a citizen to lose his property to someone who isn't legally permitted to be in the US?
Those against the proposition raised a very good point: passage of this would mean that an illegal could not pursue punitive damages against a drunk driver, if the drunk driver hit the illegal immigrant and caused bodily harm. In a sense that means the drunk driver could receive a lighter penalty than if he/she hit a legal resident.
The reading that I did on the issue said it came about mainly for private cases, so that if an illegal worker is hurt while working on private property the USC homeowner (for example) would not have to pay damages or be liable. As you know, punitive damages would normally be offered as a means of punishing the home-owner in such a case. This is separate to compensatory damages, which are not a part of the proposition. A precedent was set when a judge gave an illegal a USC owned home, as punitive compensation.
That raised a good point: is it appropriate for a citizen to lose his property to someone who isn't legally permitted to be in the US?
Those against the proposition raised a very good point: passage of this would mean that an illegal could not pursue punitive damages against a drunk driver, if the drunk driver hit the illegal immigrant and caused bodily harm. In a sense that means the drunk driver could receive a lighter penalty than if he/she hit a legal resident.
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Re: US: Immigrants May Be Held Indefinitely
Originally Posted by gardnma
Reading Sven Hassel taught you a lot, didn't it?
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Re: US: Immigrants May Be Held Indefinitely
Originally Posted by gardnma
Have you ever seen a Massachusetts state trooper?
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Re: US: Immigrants May Be Held Indefinitely
Originally Posted by krizzy
I love the way they dress here...but then we used to restore German tanks...I spent most of my weekends with men in German uniforms...I sad or just kinky not sure which.......
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Re: US: Immigrants May Be Held Indefinitely
Originally Posted by Silly Sod
Does the current administration consider itself the extreme right?
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Re: US: Immigrants May Be Held Indefinitely
Originally Posted by jen_andreson
Should illegal aliens be allowed to sue and receive punitive and compensatory damages?
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Re: US: Immigrants May Be Held Indefinitely
Originally Posted by krizzy
I love the way they dress here...but then we used to restore German tanks...I spent most of my weekends with men in German uniforms...I sad or just kinky not sure which.......
Would have loved to do that (restore German Tanks, that is)
Which ones? Mk3? Mk4?