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Old Nov 14th 2006, 2:53 pm
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I've always watched CNN hoping to catch a glimpse of Manc in shackles!

Oh well, that's that!
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I've always watched CNN hoping to catch a glimpse of Manc in shackles!

Oh well, that's that!
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I've always watched CNN hoping to catch a glimpse of Manc in shackles!

Oh well, that's that!

Is that all you have to say?

" federal judge has ordered prison officials in Michigan to immediately cease the use of non-medical, punitive restraints following the death of a mentally ill inmate who died after four days spent naked and shackled in an isolated cell..........
Souders, 21, spent most of his last four days naked inside an isolation cell at the Southern Michigan Correctional Facility in Jackson, his arms and legs bound in shackles and sometimes lying in his own urine. He died Aug. 6, two hours after jail staff removed his restraints. "
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Is that all you have to say?
Did you hear about that town in Texas that got rated the most bigoted town in the country after passing local laws that will fine landlords highly for taking tenants that are illegal, for allowing cops to arrest people who look "foreign" who don't have proof of a legal visa on them (which is illegal, Federal law and all that about ICE being only people able to ask your immigration status) and a few other fun things....
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"The court finds that the defendant's practice constitutes torture and violates the Eighth Amendment," Enslen wrote in his ruling.

Hmmm, and yet Abu Ghraib didn't? Count as torture I mean. Obviosly Iraqi's aren't covered by the eight amendment.
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This is what happens when you put mental patients in an environment that isn't made to deal with them. Have you ever tried to deal with a raging nutter? When you have criticise others who do. I have watched them punch dents in steel doors or take 4 or 5 staff to subdue them I've met guys who have had their jaws broken through a riot helmet by a nutter. Sometimes reciprocal violence or harsh restraint is the only answer. I'm sure the staff didn't want him to die but they probably hadn't got an answer suited to his problems.
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This is what happens when you put mental patients in an environment that isn't made to deal with them. Have you ever tried to deal with a raging nutter? When you have criticise others who do. I have watched them punch dents in steel doors or take 4 or 5 staff to subdue them I've met guys who have had their jaws broken through a riot helmet by a nutter. Sometimes reciprocal violence or harsh restraint is the only answer. I'm sure the staff didn't want him to die but they probably hadn't got an answer suited to his problems.

Seeing that they must have known that the restraints were not appropriate, WTF did they not monitor him?

A 21-year old kid dying like a dog - this just makes me sick!
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Seeing that they must have known that the restraints were not appropriate, WTF did they not monitor him?

A 21-year old kid dying like a dog - this just makes me sick!

Elvira...you seem a little prickly today...take some time out and pour yourself a large one.
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Elvira...you seem a little prickly today...take some time out and pour yourself a large one.
Don't worry, I already have
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Maybe you should try another.
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Maybe you should try another.

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OK what are you drinking?
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