Unrealistic salary expectations?
Oct 23rd 2013, 6:04 pm
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Unrealistic salary expectations?
In my on going search for a new job it suddenly struck me that I hadn't considered teaching. I don't know how serious the idea is yet but I did come across the "teaching fellows" scheme that seems to run here in AZ. Seems like a fast track sort of deal. Anyone know anything about it?
Anyway back to the point, a little research later reveals starting salaries in the range of $28-34k. What? You want to entrust in me the education of the future of this country for that? I could stack shelves at Costco for that.
Anyway back to the point, a little research later reveals starting salaries in the range of $28-34k. What? You want to entrust in me the education of the future of this country for that? I could stack shelves at Costco for that.
Oct 23rd 2013, 6:11 pm
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Re: Unrealistic salary expectations?
Yeah, it's pathetic. Salaries are in the same range over here on the east coast. That pay might attract some new graduates, but it doesn't rise much for those with many years experience. I have no idea how they attract enough people to fully staff the schools, but I suspect it is a reflection of the state of the economy, but whatever the reason it pretty much ensures they attract less than the best quality recruits. 
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Oct 23rd 2013, 6:25 pm
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Re: Unrealistic salary expectations?
The more qualified around here get 50-60k. And don't forget that the job includes a good three months off.
Oct 23rd 2013, 6:29 pm
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Re: Unrealistic salary expectations?
Is it like a classroom assistant or are you actually doing a full teaching job for that?
Oct 23rd 2013, 6:40 pm
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Re: Unrealistic salary expectations?
http://www.nea.org/home/2011-2012-av...er-salary.html
A quick search suggests a teacher aide salary averages about $20k.
Oct 23rd 2013, 6:40 pm
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Re: Unrealistic salary expectations?
Teaching salaries for public schools vary a lot by state, both in the average starting salary figures and in the usual increases possible over time.
http://www.teacherportal.com/teacher-salaries-by-state/
New York state's starting teacher wage averages $44,370. Not bad for 9 months' work in these economic times. Decent holiday allowance too. Though New Jersey's better at $48,101.
http://www.teacherportal.com/teacher-salaries-by-state/
New York state's starting teacher wage averages $44,370. Not bad for 9 months' work in these economic times. Decent holiday allowance too. Though New Jersey's better at $48,101.
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Oct 23rd 2013, 6:45 pm
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Re: Unrealistic salary expectations?
My understanding is that is the starting salary for teachers. Here is a link to some official looking statistics.
http://www.nea.org/home/2011-2012-av...er-salary.html
A quick search suggests a teacher aide salary averages about $20k.
http://www.nea.org/home/2011-2012-av...er-salary.html
A quick search suggests a teacher aide salary averages about $20k.
Oct 23rd 2013, 6:45 pm
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Re: Unrealistic salary expectations?
I'm sure the time off is nice, but time off doesn't pay bills and many (most?) teachers have to take other work during the summer to make ends meet.
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Oct 23rd 2013, 6:54 pm
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Re: Unrealistic salary expectations?
Not to mention a lot of teachers end up buying school supplies for their classes.
It's appalling.
It's appalling.
Oct 23rd 2013, 6:56 pm
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Re: Unrealistic salary expectations?
Just did some checking with the office.
Starting out here in this district, with a Bachelors degree you are looking at about 46K
Five years in with a Masters, about 55K
Nine years... 86K
Starting out here in this district, with a Bachelors degree you are looking at about 46K
Five years in with a Masters, about 55K
Nine years... 86K
Oct 23rd 2013, 7:07 pm
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Re: Unrealistic salary expectations?
Well that sounds better - maybe if there's a clear path to progress it's worth Eccles looking into it.
Oct 23rd 2013, 7:08 pm
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Re: Unrealistic salary expectations?
Just remembered a thing I saw on Facebook a while back, comparing teachers to babysitters. I think this is more or less the same quote:
Are you sick of highly paid teachers?
Teachers’ hefty salaries are driving up taxes, and they only work 9 or10 months a year! It’s time we put things in perspective and pay them for what they do – babysit! We can get that for less than minimum wage.
That’s right. Let’s give them $3.00 an hour and only the hours they worked; not any of that silly planning time, or any time they spend before or after school. That would be $19.50 a day (7:45 to 3:00 PM with 45 min. off for lunch and plan– that equals 6 1/2 hours).
Each parent should pay $19.50 a day for these teachers to baby-sit their children. Now how many students do they teach in a day…maybe 30? So that’s $19.50 x 30 = $585.00 a day. However, remember they only work 180 days a year!!! I am not going to pay them for any vacations.
LET’S SEE….
That’s $585 X 180= $105,300 per year. (Hold on! My calculator needs new batteries).
What about those special education teachers and the ones with Master’s degrees? Well, we could pay them minimum wage ($7.75), and just to be fair, round it off to $8.00 an hour. That would be $8 X 6 1/2 hours X 30 children X 180 days = $280,800 per year.
Wait a minute — there’s something wrong here! There sure is!
The average teacher’s salary (nation wide) is $50,000. $50,000/180 days = $277.77/per day/30 students=$9.25/6.5 hours = $1.42 per hour per student–a very inexpensive baby-sitter and they even EDUCATE your kids!) WHAT A DEAL!!!!
Teachers’ hefty salaries are driving up taxes, and they only work 9 or10 months a year! It’s time we put things in perspective and pay them for what they do – babysit! We can get that for less than minimum wage.
That’s right. Let’s give them $3.00 an hour and only the hours they worked; not any of that silly planning time, or any time they spend before or after school. That would be $19.50 a day (7:45 to 3:00 PM with 45 min. off for lunch and plan– that equals 6 1/2 hours).
Each parent should pay $19.50 a day for these teachers to baby-sit their children. Now how many students do they teach in a day…maybe 30? So that’s $19.50 x 30 = $585.00 a day. However, remember they only work 180 days a year!!! I am not going to pay them for any vacations.
LET’S SEE….
That’s $585 X 180= $105,300 per year. (Hold on! My calculator needs new batteries).
What about those special education teachers and the ones with Master’s degrees? Well, we could pay them minimum wage ($7.75), and just to be fair, round it off to $8.00 an hour. That would be $8 X 6 1/2 hours X 30 children X 180 days = $280,800 per year.
Wait a minute — there’s something wrong here! There sure is!
The average teacher’s salary (nation wide) is $50,000. $50,000/180 days = $277.77/per day/30 students=$9.25/6.5 hours = $1.42 per hour per student–a very inexpensive baby-sitter and they even EDUCATE your kids!) WHAT A DEAL!!!!
Oct 23rd 2013, 7:48 pm
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