View Poll Results: Which Class for Transatlantic Flights?
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Transatlantic Flying
#16
Need another option
We book premium economy with BA and upgrade with miles to Club World for transatlantic flights. So guess my answer is Business but pay for premium economy.
4 flights booked for Christmas trip back to the UK total cost incl taxes $5600 and change. Had we been a little more organised and paid attention to our BA account the same 4 flights in club world would have cost just over $2400 as we have two companion vouchers but the second arrived 3 weeks after we booked the trip.
We book premium economy with BA and upgrade with miles to Club World for transatlantic flights. So guess my answer is Business but pay for premium economy.
4 flights booked for Christmas trip back to the UK total cost incl taxes $5600 and change. Had we been a little more organised and paid attention to our BA account the same 4 flights in club world would have cost just over $2400 as we have two companion vouchers but the second arrived 3 weeks after we booked the trip.
#17
I don't give a damn about premium economy on BA; I got the upgrade for free and was more uncomfortable than I would have been in regular economy. I was next to three empty seats and couldn't stretch out in them. In economy I have often been placed next to empty seats that I could use to get more comfortable. My company doesn't pay for First at all for employees at my level and Business class is only for flights to Singapore or Australia and then only if approved by a VP.
#18
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I've never flown anything but economy. I don't really feel justified in spending the considerable extra money. Fortunately, I never had to travel for my work, so never built up much frequent flyer miles. And I'd never heard of the concept of "premium economy." I don't think Air Canada has that.
#19
I voted economy, based on the assumption that you are paying for it. If you can upgrade/get mileage tickets for business, and feel the need for business, go for it.
We tend to use our mileage awards for basic economy trips, rather than upgrading. In the last few years I was working I used to do upwards of 120k miles a month, mostly in business. I had clearance for First for anything over 5 hours, but only ever used it if business was full....the increment was just not worth it, and even with company money, it was still "my" budget it came out of. It also put some nice pressure on the guys that worked for me to keep an eye on their own travel costs and not milk it!
That was back in the days when miles had short shelf lives, so most of them were wasted as I didn't get chance to use them
Yes, it was nice, but it'll be a cold day in hell next time I pay my own cash for regular business tickets...to me it simply isn't worth it for the 10-12 -whatever hours you are on the plane. The last time I paid for business was when I was working, and had all those miles in the bank, but couldn't redeem them for the flights I wanted when we got married. We flew from Sing to Houston for the wedding then via Europe to Southern Africa for the honeymoon, then on to Singapore on a round the world ticket. Lots of miles, special occasion, so I forked for business and it turned out to be only about 2k per ticket more than the equivalent economy RTW ticket. I reckon that was worth it, but in general, I'd rather sit in the back with the money in my wallet, than in the front with the knobs that think they're something special
And yes, I can honestly say I have seen far more obnoxious knobhead spit-the-dummy-out-the-pram behavior in the front of the plane than the back, with the possible exception of the Friday night stag night flights from sing to Phuket.....those were just nasty
We tend to use our mileage awards for basic economy trips, rather than upgrading. In the last few years I was working I used to do upwards of 120k miles a month, mostly in business. I had clearance for First for anything over 5 hours, but only ever used it if business was full....the increment was just not worth it, and even with company money, it was still "my" budget it came out of. It also put some nice pressure on the guys that worked for me to keep an eye on their own travel costs and not milk it!
That was back in the days when miles had short shelf lives, so most of them were wasted as I didn't get chance to use them
Yes, it was nice, but it'll be a cold day in hell next time I pay my own cash for regular business tickets...to me it simply isn't worth it for the 10-12 -whatever hours you are on the plane. The last time I paid for business was when I was working, and had all those miles in the bank, but couldn't redeem them for the flights I wanted when we got married. We flew from Sing to Houston for the wedding then via Europe to Southern Africa for the honeymoon, then on to Singapore on a round the world ticket. Lots of miles, special occasion, so I forked for business and it turned out to be only about 2k per ticket more than the equivalent economy RTW ticket. I reckon that was worth it, but in general, I'd rather sit in the back with the money in my wallet, than in the front with the knobs that think they're something special
And yes, I can honestly say I have seen far more obnoxious knobhead spit-the-dummy-out-the-pram behavior in the front of the plane than the back, with the possible exception of the Friday night stag night flights from sing to Phuket.....those were just nasty
#20
I voted economy, based on the assumption that you are paying for it. If you can upgrade/get mileage tickets for business, and feel the need for business, go for it.
We tend to use our mileage awards for basic economy trips, rather than upgrading. In the last few years I was working I used to do upwards of 120k miles a month, mostly in business. I had clearance for First for anything over 5 hours, but only ever used it if business was full....the increment was just not worth it, and even with company money, it was still "my" budget it came out of. It also put some nice pressure on the guys that worked for me to keep an eye on their own travel costs and not milk it!
That was back in the days when miles had short shelf lives, so most of them were wasted as I didn't get chance to use them
Yes, it was nice, but it'll be a cold day in hell next time I pay my own cash for regular business tickets...to me it simply isn't worth it for the 10-12 -whatever hours you are on the plane. The last time I paid for business was when I was working, and had all those miles in the bank, but couldn't redeem them for the flights I wanted when we got married. We flew from Sing to Houston for the wedding then via Europe to Southern Africa for the honeymoon, then on to Singapore on a round the world ticket. Lots of miles, special occasion, so I forked for business and it turned out to be only about 2k per ticket more than the equivalent economy RTW ticket. I reckon that was worth it, but in general, I'd rather sit in the back with the money in my wallet, than in the front with the knobs that think they're something special
And yes, I can honestly say I have seen far more obnoxious knobhead spit-the-dummy-out-the-pram behavior in the front of the plane than the back, with the possible exception of the Friday night stag night flights from sing to Phuket.....those were just nasty
We tend to use our mileage awards for basic economy trips, rather than upgrading. In the last few years I was working I used to do upwards of 120k miles a month, mostly in business. I had clearance for First for anything over 5 hours, but only ever used it if business was full....the increment was just not worth it, and even with company money, it was still "my" budget it came out of. It also put some nice pressure on the guys that worked for me to keep an eye on their own travel costs and not milk it!
That was back in the days when miles had short shelf lives, so most of them were wasted as I didn't get chance to use them
Yes, it was nice, but it'll be a cold day in hell next time I pay my own cash for regular business tickets...to me it simply isn't worth it for the 10-12 -whatever hours you are on the plane. The last time I paid for business was when I was working, and had all those miles in the bank, but couldn't redeem them for the flights I wanted when we got married. We flew from Sing to Houston for the wedding then via Europe to Southern Africa for the honeymoon, then on to Singapore on a round the world ticket. Lots of miles, special occasion, so I forked for business and it turned out to be only about 2k per ticket more than the equivalent economy RTW ticket. I reckon that was worth it, but in general, I'd rather sit in the back with the money in my wallet, than in the front with the knobs that think they're something special
And yes, I can honestly say I have seen far more obnoxious knobhead spit-the-dummy-out-the-pram behavior in the front of the plane than the back, with the possible exception of the Friday night stag night flights from sing to Phuket.....those were just nasty
Made me smile, thanks
#21
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Economy, comrade.
(Obviously I'd fly first class if I could).
PS not sure what your poll is asking. What we do or what we'd like to do?
(Obviously I'd fly first class if I could).
PS not sure what your poll is asking. What we do or what we'd like to do?
#22
#23
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Sorry - it was meant to be what you do. Wanted to get an idea of what seasoned transatlantic travellers on her are doing in practice. The hideous memories of February's trip (when I was sandwiched between my broad-shouldered husband and a similarly sized bloke towards the back of economy) are still too fresh to consider downgrading just yet. However, I have a feeling we might be feeling the pinch at least the first few years out there, so if it comes down to a choice between flying home at all or not, I might just have to suck it up! 


He has to fly economy for work and is hardened.
Can't say I enjoy it, personally I find it one of the many minuses of emigration.
#24
A 6-7 hour flight from the east coast US to the UK isn't all that bad in economy. Try flying economy Tokyo to LHR, that takes 12 hours! We did it for years with young kids, so this US/UK jaunt seems pretty easy in comparison.
#25
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Exactly! In the deep dark past, my husband's company flew employees as well as expat families via business class. That was marvellous, but it ended around 1990.
A 6-7 hour flight from the east coast US to the UK isn't all that bad in economy. Try flying economy Tokyo to LHR, that takes 12 hours! We did it for years with young kids, so this US/UK jaunt seems pretty easy in comparison.
A 6-7 hour flight from the east coast US to the UK isn't all that bad in economy. Try flying economy Tokyo to LHR, that takes 12 hours! We did it for years with young kids, so this US/UK jaunt seems pretty easy in comparison.
#27
Since we're not made of money, we fly pikey class. For 8 hours, it's fine and paying an order of magnitude more for your tickets won't make the plane fly faster. IMO, you're better off saving as much extra money for the destination rather than the flight.
Although, the thought of getting my daughter all pissed off, worked up and underslept and annoying business travellers appeals to me
Although, the thought of getting my daughter all pissed off, worked up and underslept and annoying business travellers appeals to me
#28
Just a general note - it is possible to earn lots of airline miles without actually having to fly. In general you need a reasonable credit rating and the amount you earn will be directly related to how much time you choose to invest in it, but it does pay better than a part-time second job (if you have the time and the inclination).
#29

I don't give a damn about premium economy on BA; I got the upgrade for free and was more uncomfortable than I would have been in regular economy. I was next to three empty seats and couldn't stretch out in them. In economy I have often been placed next to empty seats that I could use to get more comfortable. My company doesn't pay for First at all for employees at my level and Business class is only for flights to Singapore or Australia and then only if approved by a VP.
Last edited by tonrob; Nov 15th 2013 at 5:18 am.
#30
We always fly economy, I just can't justify the added expense to fly anything else. When we relocated here though, the company paid for us to fly business which was lovely, until the hostess threw champagne all over me, and my daughter knocked my husbands all over him. We must have smelt like alcoholics when we got off the flight.
As there are 3 of us, it's usually just us on our own row. But last year me and my daughter flew to the UK on our own. On the way back we had a stopover in Chicago, and my daughter slept all the way from Chicago to San Francisco. Unfortunately, she insisted she was going to lean to her left, on to the poor man who was in the window seat. Every time I pulled her over to myself to lean on me, she would throw herself back and lean on him instead. The more times I tried to move her, the more violent her throwback got to the point I thought the poor man was going to end up with a bruised arm. Eventually he just "she's fine, leave her"
Bet he tries not to fly economy any more.
As there are 3 of us, it's usually just us on our own row. But last year me and my daughter flew to the UK on our own. On the way back we had a stopover in Chicago, and my daughter slept all the way from Chicago to San Francisco. Unfortunately, she insisted she was going to lean to her left, on to the poor man who was in the window seat. Every time I pulled her over to myself to lean on me, she would throw herself back and lean on him instead. The more times I tried to move her, the more violent her throwback got to the point I thought the poor man was going to end up with a bruised arm. Eventually he just "she's fine, leave her"
Bet he tries not to fly economy any more.















