Stop Foreclosure now!
#92
Lost in BE Cyberspace










Joined: Jan 2006
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Most subprime borrowers have defaulted when their mortgage rates have increased less than 5%. And guess what? Even borrowers who have worked out a deal with their lenders to reduce their interest rate and/or principal are now defaulting in large numbers. Quite simply, too many people bought far more house than they could afford. Nothing to do with usuary in the vast majority of cases.
#94
Most subprime borrowers have defaulted when their mortgage rates have increased less than 5%. And guess what? Even borrowers who have worked out a deal with their lenders to reduce their interest rate and/or principal are now defaulting in large numbers. Quite simply, too many people bought far more house than they could afford. Nothing to do with usuary in the vast majority of cases.
Obviously if you lose your job for an extended period of time that can be very different. But I agree that too many overextended themselves.
#95
I worked for a company like Welcome Wagon many years ago, and it was interesting to go into these (at the time) McMansions where there was no furniture. Why? Because the people had spent all their money on their house and had no money left to furnish it.
#98
You do realize that many people in the US were given mortgages at affordable rates which the lender then escalated to deliberately make them default so they could foreclose? The idea was they could get all these super cheap properties and make a killing by reselling them. Problem is that they foreclosed on so many properties that they flooded the market. There are entire neighbourhoods empty because greedy financial institutions raised interest rates by as much as 20%. Perhaps you've heard the term "sub prime"??
I have taken out at least 10 mortgages (purchases and re-fi's), and most have been adjustables, and I have always looked at the 'worst case' scenario presented by those documents, and then used my judgment in terms of whether or not I should sign the loan.
Now, I have not taken out a loan in recent years, but when I last did so, the rates were 100% governed by 3rd party ('independent') indexes, such as the Cost Of Funds index, the inter-bank rate, the T-Bill rate, etc - some nationally recognized 'index' that was not at all under the control of the lender. So what actually happens to the rate over time is 100% governed by the performance of these indexes, and not by the lender. So the lender is not 'escalating' the rate to deliberately screw me. Have ARM's changed in the past few years such that this is no longer the case ?
The real issues, as I see it, are that a) people got irrational in terms of their hopes and expectations of ever-increasing property values, and b) lenders stopped applying their well-established guidelines (such as, 40% debt-ratios, 3x salary, etc). For the latter, the lenders should be held responsible, but for the former, the borrower is at fault.
#99
Mr. Grumpy








Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 3,100
From: Nashville, TN











Along with Suze.
When an analysis was done of her investments it seems most of her money is in bonds which barely beat inflation and hardly a good example to set
At least Ramsey recomends mutual funds, albeit with fictional returns that most people would love to have
#101
Mr. Grumpy








Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 3,100
From: Nashville, TN











You do realize that many people in the US were given mortgages at affordable rates which the lender then escalated to deliberately make them default so they could foreclose? The idea was they could get all these super cheap properties and make a killing by reselling them. Problem is that they foreclosed on so many properties that they flooded the market. There are entire neighbourhoods empty because greedy financial institutions raised interest rates by as much as 20%. Perhaps you've heard the term "sub prime"??
The entire western world is feeling the crunch because of that little stunt.
Your comment was quite unfair and a little shortsighted.
The entire western world is feeling the crunch because of that little stunt.
Your comment was quite unfair and a little shortsighted.
Lenders NEVER want to foreclose. If you believe they do then you need to looen the tinfoil hat
#102
Mr. Grumpy








Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 3,100
From: Nashville, TN











I am familar with many ARM mortgages and have never heard of one that will go to LIBOR or MTA + a 20% margin after adjustment
I say BS
#103
Mr. Grumpy








Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 3,100
From: Nashville, TN











Morals have nothing to do with it. banks lend money based on risk
if people have terrible risk then their rates are high and they need to rent rather than buy a place - simple as that
Move to a country where shariah law is in control and lending for interest is bad. This is the USA and market forces determine prices
#104
you're ignorant and the reasons why Americans get a bad rap abroad Britguy.....






I dare anyone to be able to afford their mortgage when the interest rate jumps 20%. You are seeing that number right, aren't you? From, say, 7% to 27%? In the UK, only store credit cards have that high a rate.