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Old Apr 28th 2019, 2:53 pm
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Originally Posted by Mercury39
Makes sense to me, I consider them a luxury that I only treat myself to once or twice a year.
I used to eat them several times a week, as much as a whole sleeve of them at one time. That may, or may not, have had something to do with me working for United Biscuits at the time.
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Old Apr 28th 2019, 3:05 pm
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Originally Posted by mrken30
You may also be subject to UK CGT, s far as I know the tax treat only really covers earned income tax and not CGT. If that is the case you may be double taxed.
Every year since I have been back in the UK I have US capital gains that are taxed by HMRC and I claim those taxes back on form 1116, marking it as “Resourced by Treaty” and listing my US CGs and US pensions.
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Old Apr 28th 2019, 6:14 pm
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Looks good to apply the deductions as long as the following do not apply
  1. Foreign taxes withheld on income or gain (other than dividends) from property if you haven't held the property for at least 16 days within the 31-day period that begins 15 days before the date on which the right to receive the payment arises. See section 901(l) or Pub. 514.
  2. Foreign taxes withheld on income or gain (other than dividends) from property to the extent you have to make related payments on positions in substantially similar or related property

https://www.irs.gov/instructions/i11...40050395053392

This is a good recent article https://www.thebalance.com/us-taxes-...n-home-3973966

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Old Apr 30th 2019, 2:19 am
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Originally Posted by Pulaski
To your original point on the fairness of limiting the state tax deduction, I would make the counter-argument, that you paying excessive local tax to feather your own nest (superior services in your state) then being permitted to reduce your contribution to the federal coffers is also unfair. You benefit, presumably, from those superior services, and you are permitted to reduce your share of federal taxes, and everyone else has to pick up a share of your shortfall! The overall net effect of this is that taxpayers in states with more modest state government expenditure are paying additional federal taxes to subsidize profligate spending by your state!
It's difficult to make that argument when many of the states hit by the SALT deduction cap get the least back from the Federal government - NJ only gets $0.82 back for every $1 we contribute. On the other hand NC receives back $1.44 for every $1 sent
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Originally Posted by Olly_
It's difficult to make that argument when many of the states hit by the SALT deduction cap get the least back from the Federal government - NJ only gets $0.82 back for every $1 we contribute. On the other hand NC receives back $1.44 for every $1 sent
I've made that very point to Pulaski before...

I look at it this way. Many red states provide minimal services at the state level and rely on "welfare" from the federal government to make up the difference. And the bill for that welfare is paid by taxpayers in blue states, where state governments tax higher and provide more services. With the SALT limitation, that shift of federal income from blue to red states becomes even more pronounced than the numbers you give. I really don't see how you can defend it other than to say "because we can". Also, the SALT limitation was at least partially responsible for the Democrats winning the House back: Republicans were wiped out in most parts of several states with higher state income taxes.
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Does anyone know of any tax advisor recommendations who are specialists in both US and UK tax? A firm who deals with UK-US expats? I will do a regular search but just wondered if anyone had used anyone previously and came recommended?

Apologies if this type of request isn't allowed on the board..!
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Old Jun 2nd 2019, 1:35 am
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Originally Posted by guyintheus

That notional FX gain is outrageous!!

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yep - we got dinged very badly a few years ago. was infuriating as when we bought we had no idea we would be moving to the states years later but we still had to pay the gain.
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