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Aug 19th 2014, 9:20 am

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Re: Pledge of Allegiance

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Originally Posted by Pulaski

It's funny how a thread that started about the Pledge of Allegiance has turned into a thread about one of Britain's greatest military strategists.

I love BE!

As always, it comes down to the War of 1812. I've been banging on about the War of 1812 since the 1970s. For decades, I just got puzzled looks in response. Now I live within spitting distance of Cryslers Farm, Ogdensburg, Plattsburgh and Sacketts Harbor, plus the bicentenary, I'm like a pig in shit!!

Aug 19th 2014, 10:50 am

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Re: Pledge of Allegiance

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French still have a foothold, though, St. Pierre and Miquelon.

And I would say St Catherine's and St Denis St. in Montréal.

(You're not going to get that... or maybe you will as you live in upstate NY).

Aug 19th 2014, 10:51 am

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Re: Pledge of Allegiance

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But a lot of the French overseas territories don't, especially in the Pacific where they have Pacific Francs.

As I recall it's at a fixed exchange rate though, so same thing basically.

Aug 19th 2014, 11:00 am

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Re: Pledge of Allegiance

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Originally Posted by Parisangel

I have a question....what do you do when you're present and Americans are doing the pledge of allegiance? I've been in school and a couple of places where it's going on, I try to stand quietly and be respectful. However, just joined PTA and notice on the agenda they do it at the start of each meeting where it might be more conspicuous not to take part....what to do? It feels wrong to do it, not only because I'm not an American but it's such a part of who they are it feels disrespectful to do it when I have no right to......

Make any sense? What do you guys do?

Thanks

One should chose to be respectful when appropriate. but in my opinion its downright disrespectful for members of a parent teacher association to have a pledge at the start of a meeting. I'd sit and motion to have it stopped. Then I live in Seattle and would not be ostracized.

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Aug 20th 2014, 7:25 am

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My 11yr old was asking me about this the other day. I attended an international school in Venezuela (95%+ US students/teachers) and we said the pledge every day. I didn't really think about it, it became rote to me - 30 years later I can still do it! My younger sister, however refused to take part.

I've told my kids that when we move out there, they should stand respectfully if it happens. Is it still a daily occurance in schools?

Aug 20th 2014, 7:34 am

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Re: Pledge of Allegiance

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In schools it seems to vary. Still common in many from anecdote, but the two schools I know well - one does it weekly the other never.

Aug 20th 2014, 7:45 am

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Re: Pledge of Allegiance

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....... Then I live in Seattle and would not be ostracized.

In my neck of the woods many people think everyone west of the Rockies should be ostracized.

Aug 20th 2014, 8:00 am

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Re: Pledge of Allegiance

i just repeat the pledge myself.

i may not be a citizen yet - but its my chosen home. dont see any problem with me saying it either.

Aug 20th 2014, 8:06 am

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i just repeat the pledge myself.

i may not be a citizen yet - but its my chosen home. dont see any problem with me saying it either.

Eurgh.

Aug 20th 2014, 8:06 am

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Re: Pledge of Allegiance

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i just repeat the pledge myself.

..... its my chosen home. dont see any problem with me saying it either.

I am a citizen now, but I have never had a problem with it. ...... HH will probably be along shortly to admonish us.

That said, the occasions I have been present when the pledge has been recited have been very few.

Aug 20th 2014, 8:07 am

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Eurgh.

Dang, you were even quicker than I expected!

Aug 20th 2014, 8:08 am

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Me neither. ...... HH will probably be along shortly to admonish us.

I guess if you want to live here and love everything America does (and has done throughout its history), fine. I appreciate that viewpoint.

Myself, I am here because my wife and job are. If the UK stopped putting people in prison for having an opinion, I'd be looking to relocate us after I gain US citizenship (again, purely to ensure I can always be with my wife).

Aug 20th 2014, 8:12 am

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Dang, you were even quicker than I expected!

That's what the wife says.

boom.

Aug 20th 2014, 8:19 am

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Re: Pledge of Allegiance

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I am a citizen now, but I have never had a problem with it. ...... HH will probably be along shortly to admonish us.

That said, the occasions I have been present when the pledge has been recited have been very few.

my kids say it daily at school, and also at the cub scout pack they attend. I help run the pack and felt it was least awkward to just go along with it. I intend to be a citizen, i respect the country, so where is the harm? its not like i am defaming anything else by doing it?

The cub scouts actually had a Flag retirement ceremony recently and it was really moving - regardless of the fact it isn't the country of my birth. I can still respect it and appreciate the depth of emotion felt by the others.