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RichardDCFC Mar 9th 2022 6:50 am

Permanent resident for work!
 
Hey there my name is Richard.
I'm 30 years old, married with 2 children in South Texas.
I have been a lawful permanent resident in the USA for over a year now.
I met my wife over here a few years ago and just life feels right here especially for my kids.
I'm currently out of work due to strict vaccination policies and mandates.
I'm just taking a shot in the dark to see if someone out there is in the position to hire a totally dependable and loyal fellow British man?



tht Mar 9th 2022 7:06 am

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Originally Posted by RichardDCFC (Post 13100238)
Hey there my name is Richard.
I'm 30 years old, married with 2 children in South Texas.
I have been a lawful permanent resident in the USA for over a year now.
I met my wife over here a few years ago and just life feels right here especially for my kids.
I'm currently out of work due to strict vaccination policies and mandates.
I'm just taking a shot in the dark to see if someone out there is in the position to hire a totally dependable and loyal fellow British man?

You probably need to say what you do for work for anyone to be able to suggest anything ?

And specify if you were terminated for not being vaccinated or if you quit because you did not want to work with unvaccinated people…?

SanDiegogirl Mar 9th 2022 7:47 am

Re: Permanent resident for work!
 
I'm currently out of work due to strict vaccination policies and mandates.

What does this mean ....?

Terminated because you would not get vaccinated.....? or .....



RichardDCFC Mar 9th 2022 8:52 am

Re: Permanent resident for work!
 
Yes they want me to be vaccinated
I was only contracted by them through another company that would not fight for my right to a religious exemption.
oh and I did forget to mention this was a medical specimen courier position . A lot of driving and dealing with lab people and specamins, also pharmaceuticals.
kind of ironinc since I had been transporting positive covid specimens for over a year every day.

Pulaski Mar 9th 2022 9:03 am

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Originally Posted by RichardDCFC (Post 13100238)
.... I'm .... totally dependable ....


Originally Posted by RichardDCFC (Post 13100271)
Yes they want me to be vaccinated.

So you're totally dependable, ..... so long as you get your own way then. :confused:

.... kind of ironinc since I had been transporting positive covid specimens for over a year every day.
What seems ironic to me is that someone would want to be anywhere near covid specimens (yeah, I know they're sealed in secure vials) and not want to be vaccinated. :unsure:

TexanScot Mar 9th 2022 9:08 am

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Originally Posted by RichardDCFC (Post 13100271)
Yes they want me to be vaccinated

Then it sounds like the solution would be to get vaccinated.


I was only contracted by them through another company that would not fight for my right to a religious exemption.
I'm not aware of any religious denomination with scriptures or teachings against vaccination.

SanDiegogirl Mar 9th 2022 11:48 am

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Originally Posted by TexanScot (Post 13100274)
Then it sounds like the solution would be to get vaccinated.



I'm not aware of any religious denomination with scriptures or teachings against vaccination.


++1

RichardDCFC Mar 9th 2022 12:52 pm

Re: Permanent resident for work!
 
Wow.
just,
wow.

tom169 Mar 9th 2022 3:01 pm

Re: Permanent resident for work!
 
Good for you for sticking to your beliefs.

Jolly Good Mar 9th 2022 3:31 pm

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Originally Posted by RichardDCFC (Post 13100271)
Yes they want me to be vaccinated
I was only contracted by them through another company that would not fight for my right to a religious exemption.
oh and I did forget to mention this was a medical specimen courier position . A lot of driving and dealing with lab people and specamins, also pharmaceuticals.
kind of ironinc since I had been transporting positive covid specimens for over a year every day.

I'm sure you could easily find another job without being vaccinated in Texas. Talk to Governor Abbott!

civilservant Mar 9th 2022 10:47 pm

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Wow.
just,
wow.
You're not going to find a very sympathetic crowd for vaccine hesitancy here generally, and especially not me. I have seen too many full body bags in the last 2 years.

Rete Mar 9th 2022 11:26 pm

Re: Permanent resident for work!
 
Mildly curious if your religious exemption covered all vaccinations from childhood onward or is it just the covid vax that you are standing firm against? Also I hope and pray that your attitude, which you are entitled to, has not been extended to your children and that they have had or will have their childhood vaccinations.

BTW must have been difficult dealing with USCIS.

robin1234 Mar 10th 2022 12:24 am

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Originally Posted by RichardDCFC (Post 13100296)
Wow.
just,
wow.

Presumably Texas has reasonable unemployment benefit provision - especially for a family with young children? But, if you can’t make a go of it over here, you could always return to the UK to live.

RichardDCFC Mar 10th 2022 1:57 am

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I'm not an anti vaccine person . I have had all my shots . My children have all there shots. This particular "vaccine"
is my issue . I have had covid twice and each time I was fine. Why in the hell should I risk my life and my beliefs to take a so called vaccine that may harm me?

civilservant Mar 10th 2022 2:12 am

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Since this is not 'Take It Outsde' I will not drag this part of the forum into the quagmire.

Suffice to say that I strongly disagree with your assertions, and would love to know what 'religion' you ascribe too that expressly prohibits no vaccines other than for COVID 19. Such a religion would have to have been very recently developed and awfully convenient.

Pulaski Mar 10th 2022 2:13 am

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Originally Posted by RichardDCFC (Post 13100367)
.... my beliefs to take a ... vaccine ...

I am intrigued. Of which religion, or church, and denomination are you an adherent? And which tenet, dogma, or scripture are you relying on to repudiate the covid vaccine? :confused:

S Folinsky Mar 10th 2022 2:26 am

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Originally Posted by RichardDCFC (Post 13100367)
I'm not an anti vaccine person . I have had all my shots . My children have all there shots. This particular "vaccine"
is my issue . I have had covid twice and each time I was fine. Why in the hell should I risk my life and my beliefs to take a so called vaccine that may harm me?

You have now moved away from “religious freedom” to what appears to be a generalized liberty argument. You echo the argument made by on Pastor Jacobson against a mandatory vaccine requirement. A long time ago the US Supreme Court ruled on this in 1905 in Jacobson v Massachusetts. Take a look at the How Cited link at the top. The 1905 case is currently considered good law.

petitefrancaise Mar 10th 2022 2:41 am

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Originally Posted by Pulaski (Post 13100376)
I am intrigued. Of which religion, or church, and denomination are you an adherent? And which tenet, dogma, or scripture are you relying on to repudiate the covid vaccine? :confused:

Darwinism? :rofl:

civilservant Mar 10th 2022 2:44 am

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Surely that would be 'reverse-Darwinism'? :rofl:

Survival of the most idiotic :nod:

Nutmegger Mar 10th 2022 4:22 am

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Originally Posted by RichardDCFC (Post 13100367)
I'm not an anti vaccine person . I have had all my shots . My children have all there shots. This particular "vaccine"
is my issue . I have had covid twice and each time I was fine. Why in the hell should I risk my life and my beliefs to take a so called vaccine that may harm me?


A quote from Frank Bruni of the New York Times in his newsletter today:

It’s astonishing how far people can travel from the truth. Then again, it’s not. We have watched it happen here in the United States, among many of our fellow Americans, in regard not to Russia and Ukraine but to the 2020 election, to the safety and efficacy of vaccines, to so much else.

Instead of benefiting fully from a free flow of ideas and data and genuine insights, too many of us volitionally make do with an unrepresentative trickle. If the result isn’t an alternate reality nearly as comical and tragical as Russia’s right now, it’s a distortion nonetheless, and a dangerous one to boot. We are only as good as the information we seek.

RichardDCFC Mar 10th 2022 5:45 am

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I dont know why I have to disclose any reason as to why I am opposed to this particular shot.
1. It's new vaccine tech, not an inoculation.
2. I just personally dont believe in mandates in this particular case. I accepted fully and respected my employers choice, I do not belittle anyone's stance on the matter, nor do I challenge there beliefs, I treat them with the respect and decency that any other human being deserves.
Any of you questioning my religious beliefs you make no sense. My beliefs are my beliefs, I do not have to place my self in to any one category like Christian, Muslim or Jewish.
I believe in what I believe.

SanDiegogirl Mar 10th 2022 5:56 am

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You don't have to disclose any reason as to why you are opposed to this particular shot.
You also did not have to state "I'm currently out of work due to strict vaccination policies and mandates" - a statement bound to get people asking questions as to what that meant.
I doubt whether you are really looking for a job (would you put above statement in any job application you submit ?) - more likely just to get a controversial discussion going......

RichardDCFC Mar 10th 2022 6:11 am

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Originally Posted by SanDiegogirl (Post 13100420)
I doubt whether you are really looking for a job (would you put above statement in any job application you submit ?) - more likely just to get a controversial discussion going......

The world has changed over the past 10 years drastically, I honestly should have expected should a sharp and utter brash response from anyone in the current climate.
I genuinely am looking for work, I believe in hard work and honest work.
I'm willing and able and that's my main motion for being here.
Everyone is so quick to comment and have an opinion and I think having those opinions are great, but yall immediately made me a "stupid" "idiotic" "moron" an never even made room in your minds for another person's point of view which wasnt even the main topic of my thread.

The thirstyness of the feeling of self righteousness you all have is disturbing and distasteful.

Pulaski Mar 10th 2022 6:14 am

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Originally Posted by Nutmegger (Post 13100409)
A quote from Frank Bruni of the New York Times in his newsletter today:

It’s astonishing how far people can travel from the truth. Then again, it’s not. We have watched it happen here in the United States, among many of our fellow Americans, in regard not to Russia and Ukraine but to the 2020 election, to the safety and efficacy of vaccines, to so much else.

Instead of benefiting fully from a free flow of ideas and data and genuine insights, too many of us volitionally make do with an unrepresentative trickle. If the result isn’t an alternate reality nearly as comical and tragical as Russia’s right now, it’s a distortion nonetheless, and a dangerous one to boot. We are only as good as the information we seek.

I am confounded by the extent to which a significant minority of people in the US are willing to contort their perception of reality to fit with their politics. Obviously there is a huge range of political views in the US population, and the views of most people reflect their life experiences and interactions with the world around them. So while I disagree with the politics of some, at least I can understand what might have happened during their life to get them to where they are politically. But some people must have been doing bizarre mental gymnastics to come up with the conspiracy theory fantasies that support their politics today. :blink:

RichardDCFC Mar 10th 2022 6:16 am

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Originally Posted by Pulaski (Post 13100424)
But some people must have been doing bizarre mental gymnastics to come up with the conspiracy theory fantasies that support their politics today. :blink:

what are you stating here?
are you just saying I'm wrong?

TexanScot Mar 10th 2022 6:17 am

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Originally Posted by RichardDCFC (Post 13100418)
I just personally dont believe in mandates in this particular case. I accepted fully and respected my employers choice, I do not belittle anyone's stance on the matter, nor do I challenge there beliefs, I treat them with the respect and decency that any other human being deserves.

You are of course, entitled to hold whatever beliefs you like.

I would however point out that there's a difference between accepting someone's beliefs, and respecting those same beliefs.

There are many, many beliefs that people would find it very difficult indeed to respect.

TexanScot Mar 10th 2022 6:19 am

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Originally Posted by RichardDCFC (Post 13100425)
what are you stating here?
are you just saying I'm wrong?

I mean yes, the overwhelming and compelling scientific evidence would stand to suggest that you are indeed wrong when it comes to your opposition to COVID-19 vaccines.

You can certainly disagree with the great many extremely learned people who know far more about vaccines and infectious diseases than you or I ever will...

RichardDCFC Mar 10th 2022 6:20 am

Re: Permanent resident for work!
 
By the way
I like tea (pj tips)
I love Mexican food and culture.
I'm a die hard Derby County fan - I hope I have a club left to support next season!
I love my wife children and my extended family.
I think we all deserve love in life.
and I like to smile to everyone who can see , even if i am wearing a mask to be polite.

RichardDCFC Mar 10th 2022 6:24 am

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I believe in God
I believe in education
I believe in freedom
I believe in helping where you can.
I believe in opportunity for all.

I'm sure no one disagrees with me on those points . So please I understand yall disagree on one point with me. Can we move past that?

SanDiegogirl Mar 10th 2022 6:29 am

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delete

SanDiegogirl Mar 10th 2022 6:31 am

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Originally Posted by RichardDCFC (Post 13100429)
I believe in God
I believe in education
I believe in freedom
I believe in helping where you can.
I believe in opportunity for all.

I'm sure no one disagrees with me on those points . So please I understand yall disagree on one point with me. Can we move past that?

Employers are not really interested in all the above when looking for workers.

Why don't you provide your skill levels/education/employment history . ......

RichardDCFC Mar 10th 2022 6:35 am

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Originally Posted by SanDiegogirl (Post 13100431)
delete

I'm in full agreement delete this thread
what a wild world.

civilservant Mar 10th 2022 6:38 am

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Originally Posted by RichardDCFC (Post 13100429)
I believe in God
I believe in education
I believe in freedom
I believe in helping where you can.
I believe in opportunity for all.

I'm sure no one disagrees with me on those points . So please I understand yall disagree on one point with me. Can we move past that?

I certainly do with the first one. I would outright ban the worship of false idols that have caused nothing but harm for the entirety of human history.

I return-to my initial comment. DO not look for welcome here, because the majority of us look at vaccine deniers with general bemusement and/or distain.


what are you stating here?
are you just saying I'm wrong?
If he isn't, I am. You're wrong.

Anyway, I literally had COVID last week. So I'm off to enjoy some of this 'natural immunity' that people like you tout.

:getcoat:

Jolly Good Mar 10th 2022 6:48 am

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Originally Posted by RichardDCFC (Post 13100428)
By the way
I like tea (pj tips)
I love Mexican food and culture.
I'm a die hard Derby County fan - I hope I have a club left to support next season!
I love my wife children and my extended family.
I think we all deserve love in life.
and I like to smile to everyone who can see , even if i am wearing a mask to be polite.


Originally Posted by RichardDCFC (Post 13100429)
I believe in God
I believe in education
I believe in freedom
I believe in helping where you can.
I believe in opportunity for all.

I'm sure no one disagrees with me on those points . So please I understand yall disagree on one point with me. Can we move past that?

So your original post was asking if someone could help you find employment. You then mentioned strict rules about vaccination status. I'm just wondering where in Texas you live because (sadly) even in some of the large medical facilities it is not mandatory for employees to be vaccinated. Not all of them, but some unfortunately still hire whatever your vaccination history.

And if you believe in helping where you can then get yourself vaccinated.. You will then be helping all the people you love and care for and many more that you come in contact with.

RichardDCFC Mar 10th 2022 6:56 am

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Originally Posted by Jolly Good (Post 13100435)

And if you believe in helping where you can then get yourself vaccinated.. You will then be helping all the people you love and care for and many more that you come in contact with.

Wow this needs to be saved for history.

you wont find an enemy in me.

Pulaski Mar 10th 2022 7:02 am

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Originally Posted by RichardDCFC (Post 13100425)
what are you stating here?
are you just saying I'm wrong?

I don't know. You didn't answer my previous question, about the foundations of your "religious" objections to a covid vaccine, which I find a little surprising as apparently your beliefs are strong enough for you to have lost your job over. So in that regard I can't be sure whether you're wrong, I'd only be guessing. .... Now whether you're wrong to dress up a political beef as a "religious belief" is a whole other question. :rofl: If nothing else I'd say that you're being grossly disrespectful to people who hold genuine religious beliefs.

I find the world of politics in the US and beyond bizarre and perplexing as it is likely that you and I are relatively close to each other on the political spectrum, and I have been insulted and ridiculed by many people on BE over my political views. Given that BE is not a hotbed of fascist ideology, I am probably as far right as any BE member who hasn't actually been banned from the forum, and yet I have a huge problem with Americans who think that science has a political agenda, and that science is being used as a tool to suppress people. As you claim to "believe" in education I am surprised that you can't see this yourself.

As someone who "believes" in education I am also surprised that you don't seem to understand that the covid pandemic isn't all about "you". Like it or not, we all live with family, and neighbors in towns and cities, coming into contact with many people, and the more people who catch and carry a disease the more people who we risk passing the disease to. So your "freedom" to flout the science and reject a vaccine impacts everyone around you. Whether you like that is a moot point, but that is the reality. You either disagree with it, or know it but reject it for political reasons, but either way, I can't reconcile your objections to the covid vaccine with your self-professed "belief" in education. :( .... Or have you just been doing your own research? :rolleyes:

RichardDCFC Mar 10th 2022 7:02 am

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Originally Posted by civilservant (Post 13100434)

the majority of us look at vaccine deniers with general bemusement and/or distain.

If he isn't, I am. You're wrong

:getcoat:

Not a vaccine denier also this isnt a regular vaccine either..........

you can claim someone is wrong . That's ok . You have an opinion just as I do . You are wrong to me but also who the **** knows, as with the first one about God - no one really knows.
I'm not an enemy.

TexanScot Mar 10th 2022 7:06 am

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Originally Posted by RichardDCFC (Post 13100429)
I believe in education

I'm out.

SanDiegogirl Mar 10th 2022 7:08 am

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Originally Posted by SanDiegogirl (Post 13100432)
Employers are not really interested in all the above when looking for workers.

Why don't you provide your skill levels/education/employment history . ......


Ahem...... want job, provide details .......

RichardDCFC Mar 10th 2022 7:09 am

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Originally Posted by Pulaski (Post 13100439)
I don't know. You didn't answer my previous question, about the foundations of your "religious" objections to a covid vaccine, which I find a little surprising as apparently your beliefs are strong enough for you to have lost your job over. So in that regard I can't be sure whether you're wrong, I'd only be guessing. .... Now whether you're wrong to dress up a political beef as a "religious belief" is a whole other question. :rofl:

I find the world of politics in the US and beyond bizarre and perplexing as it is likely that you and I are relatively close to each other on the political spectrum, and I have been insulted and ridiculed by many people on BE over my political views. I am probably as far right as any BE member who hasn't actually been banned, and yet I have a huge problem with Americans who think that science has a political agenda, and that science is being used as a tool to suppress people. As you claim to "believe" in education I am surprised that you can't see this yourself.

As someone who "believes" in education I am also surprised that you don't seem to understand that the covid pandemic isn't all about "you". Like it or not, we all live with family, and neighbors in towns and cities, coming into contact with many people, and the more people who catch and carry a disease the more people who we risk passing the disease to. So your "freedom" to flout the science and reject a vaccine impacts everyone around you. Whether you like that is a moot point, but that is the reality. You either disagree with it, or know it but reject it for political reasons, but either way, I can't reconcile your objections to the covid vaccine with your self-professed "belief" in education. :( .... Or have you just been doing your own research? :rolleyes:

well thought out response there.
my religious beliefs are hard for myself to comprehend at times and so trying to relay them with my limited vocabulary I would find so very difficult.
one line in the bible catches my eye about the mark of the beast . And how we may not trade or sell without this mark.
I see this happening to our neighbors up north.
I'm fearful of this happening to us.
I'm not saying this is a biblical prophecy happening
but do I want to take those chances based on my beliefs?
I'm not denying the effectiveness of a covid 19 vaccine for people at all . I'm just worried that I wont have a choice to do the very basic things.


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