Oregon's healthcare lottery
Apr 2nd 2008, 2:48 am
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Oregon's healthcare lottery
Apr 2nd 2008, 6:38 am
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Re: Oregon's healthcare lottery
Daily Show covered this tonight, excellent.
Apr 2nd 2008, 6:41 am
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Greatest healthcare system in the world or so I am informed by Sean Hannity.
Apr 2nd 2008, 4:47 pm
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Darn, I wish I had seen that..
The story is of course missing a lot of context, but yeah, sucks to be us, huh?
Now, the victory *could* be that Oregon has a plan like this at all.. very few states do.
This is a limited-resource pool that you can apply to join, and you get 'insurance' at a very reduced cost. Mind you, the services are also severely limited but are better than nothing.
A friend of mine, very low income due to health conditions making her virtually unemployable (lifelong diabetic + heart defect), was kicked off the Plan several years ago because her mother gave her a $1000 gift at Xmas. Declaring that put her over the income limit.
I wanted to apply for the Oregon Health Plan myself, but I couldn't see me taking a place from someone like my friend Carol (above).
Then they closed the plan to new members for several years--they only have a limited amount of $$. Member loss through attrition (heck, maybe they died off because the service was so bad, I don't know) has finally allowed them to open up 3000 spots, but as you see in the story, 90,000 applied. They'll be adding in monthly chunks of 3000 until the plan is full again.
sime303--can you explain that Hannity comment? He said that about Oregon's plan???
The story is of course missing a lot of context, but yeah, sucks to be us, huh?
Now, the victory *could* be that Oregon has a plan like this at all.. very few states do.
This is a limited-resource pool that you can apply to join, and you get 'insurance' at a very reduced cost. Mind you, the services are also severely limited but are better than nothing.
A friend of mine, very low income due to health conditions making her virtually unemployable (lifelong diabetic + heart defect), was kicked off the Plan several years ago because her mother gave her a $1000 gift at Xmas. Declaring that put her over the income limit.
I wanted to apply for the Oregon Health Plan myself, but I couldn't see me taking a place from someone like my friend Carol (above).
Then they closed the plan to new members for several years--they only have a limited amount of $$. Member loss through attrition (heck, maybe they died off because the service was so bad, I don't know) has finally allowed them to open up 3000 spots, but as you see in the story, 90,000 applied. They'll be adding in monthly chunks of 3000 until the plan is full again.
sime303--can you explain that Hannity comment? He said that about Oregon's plan???
Apr 2nd 2008, 5:17 pm
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Re: Oregon's healthcare lottery
meauxna - don't forget the Oregon Medical Pool as well which provides health insurance cover for those that can pay but who the big companies refuse to cover. My wife is diabetic and was refused cover but is in the Oregon Medical Pool.
Bearing in mind how small the population of Oregon is we do a lot more than most others to provide health care to those who elsewhere wouldn't get anything at all. All we need now is for the legislator to fund the health care for all children.
Bearing in mind how small the population of Oregon is we do a lot more than most others to provide health care to those who elsewhere wouldn't get anything at all. All we need now is for the legislator to fund the health care for all children.
Apr 2nd 2008, 5:28 pm
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Re: Oregon's healthcare lottery
Darn, I wish I had seen that..
The story is of course missing a lot of context, but yeah, sucks to be us, huh?
Now, the victory *could* be that Oregon has a plan like this at all.. very few states do.
This is a limited-resource pool that you can apply to join, and you get 'insurance' at a very reduced cost. Mind you, the services are also severely limited but are better than nothing.
A friend of mine, very low income due to health conditions making her virtually unemployable (lifelong diabetic + heart defect), was kicked off the Plan several years ago because her mother gave her a $1000 gift at Xmas. Declaring that put her over the income limit.
I wanted to apply for the Oregon Health Plan myself, but I couldn't see me taking a place from someone like my friend Carol (above).
Then they closed the plan to new members for several years--they only have a limited amount of $$. Member loss through attrition (heck, maybe they died off because the service was so bad, I don't know) has finally allowed them to open up 3000 spots, but as you see in the story, 90,000 applied. They'll be adding in monthly chunks of 3000 until the plan is full again.
sime303--can you explain that Hannity comment? He said that about Oregon's plan???
The story is of course missing a lot of context, but yeah, sucks to be us, huh?
Now, the victory *could* be that Oregon has a plan like this at all.. very few states do.
This is a limited-resource pool that you can apply to join, and you get 'insurance' at a very reduced cost. Mind you, the services are also severely limited but are better than nothing.
A friend of mine, very low income due to health conditions making her virtually unemployable (lifelong diabetic + heart defect), was kicked off the Plan several years ago because her mother gave her a $1000 gift at Xmas. Declaring that put her over the income limit.
I wanted to apply for the Oregon Health Plan myself, but I couldn't see me taking a place from someone like my friend Carol (above).
Then they closed the plan to new members for several years--they only have a limited amount of $$. Member loss through attrition (heck, maybe they died off because the service was so bad, I don't know) has finally allowed them to open up 3000 spots, but as you see in the story, 90,000 applied. They'll be adding in monthly chunks of 3000 until the plan is full again.
sime303--can you explain that Hannity comment? He said that about Oregon's plan???
Apr 2nd 2008, 11:53 pm
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Re: Oregon's healthcare lottery
however it means diddly squat when we can't afford it.
Apr 3rd 2008, 12:02 am
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meauxna - don't forget the Oregon Medical Pool as well which provides health insurance cover for those that can pay but who the big companies refuse to cover. My wife is diabetic and was refused cover but is in the Oregon Medical Pool.
Bearing in mind how small the population of Oregon is we do a lot more than most others to provide health care to those who elsewhere wouldn't get anything at all. All we need now is for the legislator to fund the health care for all children.
Bearing in mind how small the population of Oregon is we do a lot more than most others to provide health care to those who elsewhere wouldn't get anything at all. All we need now is for the legislator to fund the health care for all children.
Maybe move into the 20th century next...
Apr 3rd 2008, 1:21 am
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What.. you're saying we could trade up the covered wagon for something else???
'Cause those oxen are eating me out of house and homestead.
(can't believe you never answered my Brigitte Nielsen post!)
Cheers for the reminder, lansbury. It's true, we don't hear as much about that program. I'm surprised that your wife couldn't get continuing coverage. I know, I shouldn't be.
The governor is bringin the children's cover back to the table, but people are already screaming at the legislature saying that the people's vote on Measure 50 answered this, but I'm sure you're learning some of the downfalls of the petitioning process. I wouldn't give it up, but it is problematic when outsiders get involved.
sime303, I didn't think Hannity would have anything positive to say about Oregon specifically. We're not exactly his 'base'.
Say what you will, but the states are going to have to try if the Feds won't.
And don't forget, you all have Oregon to thank for those nickel deposits on cans and bottles.
'Cause those oxen are eating me out of house and homestead.
(can't believe you never answered my Brigitte Nielsen post!)
Cheers for the reminder, lansbury. It's true, we don't hear as much about that program. I'm surprised that your wife couldn't get continuing coverage. I know, I shouldn't be.
The governor is bringin the children's cover back to the table, but people are already screaming at the legislature saying that the people's vote on Measure 50 answered this, but I'm sure you're learning some of the downfalls of the petitioning process. I wouldn't give it up, but it is problematic when outsiders get involved.
sime303, I didn't think Hannity would have anything positive to say about Oregon specifically. We're not exactly his 'base'.
Say what you will, but the states are going to have to try if the Feds won't.
And don't forget, you all have Oregon to thank for those nickel deposits on cans and bottles.
Apr 3rd 2008, 1:36 am
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Re: Oregon's healthcare lottery
No deposits here.
But on the Children issue, my inherited family are on programs, and I am no expert, but Children seem to get cover one way or the other. Adults are the ones with probems.
There was a similar question about coering Childen in CO, but I could never work out which children.
Apr 3rd 2008, 3:30 am
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Apr 3rd 2008, 5:42 pm
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No bottle bill in CO? That surprises me; Oregon and Colorado seem to be joined by some invisible umbilicus. People drift between them like they are one and the same...
Yeah, protecting ME from having to get out in the nasty weather to get nasty fuel all over my hands or general persona. Yeah, I hate that all right. And considering that our fuel prices are similar to other states, well, I don't see the harm in the no-self-serve policy!
Yeah, protecting ME from having to get out in the nasty weather to get nasty fuel all over my hands or general persona. Yeah, I hate that all right. And considering that our fuel prices are similar to other states, well, I don't see the harm in the no-self-serve policy!
Apr 3rd 2008, 5:44 pm
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Re: Oregon's healthcare lottery
It's actually more of a raffle than a lottery....
Apr 3rd 2008, 5:46 pm
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No bottle bill in CO? That surprises me; Oregon and Colorado seem to be joined by some invisible umbilicus. People drift between them like they are one and the same...
Yeah, protecting ME from having to get out in the nasty weather to get nasty fuel all over my hands or general persona. Yeah, I hate that all right. And considering that our fuel prices are similar to other states, well, I don't see the harm in the no-self-serve policy!
Yeah, protecting ME from having to get out in the nasty weather to get nasty fuel all over my hands or general persona. Yeah, I hate that all right. And considering that our fuel prices are similar to other states, well, I don't see the harm in the no-self-serve policy!
But back on subject, as far as children is concerned, where is the 'gap' I here about. I have asked around but for children, it does not sound an issue.