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Old Sep 30th 2002, 12:16 pm
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hello all
i'm looking to relocate to america on a permanent basis.i have applied through the green card lottery, but i am wondering if there is a way of paying 'X' amount of money to a lawyer and recieving one(am i being naive?).i have a professional trade that is very transferable to the states.
can anyone help or advise???????????
i must leave this sad shores
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Old Sep 30th 2002, 2:09 pm
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japayne wrote:
    > hello all
    > i'm looking to relocate to america on a permanent basis.i have applied
    > through the green card lottery, but i am wondering if there is a way of
    > paying 'X' amount of money to a lawyer and recieving one(am i being
    > naive?).i have a professional trade that is very transferable to the
    > states.
    > can anyone help or advise???????????
    > i must leave this sad shores

If you were born in the UK (except NI) you are not eligible for the DV
lottery. You don't say where you are from but I guessed based on where
you post from (which is probably a bad idea).

Your question about paying a lawyer was naive. Immigraiton doesn't work
that way. Look in to H-1B working visa
 
Old Sep 30th 2002, 2:13 pm
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Heh, if getting a green card was that easy, I'd become an immigration
lawyer.

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    > hello all
    > i'm looking to relocate to america on a permanent basis.i have applied
    > through the green card lottery, but i am wondering if there is a way of
    > paying 'X' amount of money to a lawyer and recieving one(am i being
    > naive?).i have a professional trade that is very transferable to the
    > states.
    > can anyone help or advise???????????
    > i must leave this sad shores
    > jamie
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Old Sep 30th 2002, 2:50 pm
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If you were born in the UK (except NI) you are not eligible for the DV
lottery. You don't say where you are from but I guessed based on where
you post from (which is probably a bad idea).

Your question about paying a lawyer was naive. Immigraiton doesn't work
that way. Look in to H-1B working visa
[/

(excuse my forum virginity!)
i am from uk and have applied to the dv lottery
apparantly i am eligable (i didn't think i would be either)
the application is being processed so.................
thanks for info regarding H1-B
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Old Sep 30th 2002, 5:23 pm
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japayne wrote:
    > If you were born in the UK (except NI) you are not eligible for the DV
    > lottery. You don't say where you are from but I guessed based on where
    > you post from (which is probably a bad idea).
    > Your question about paying a lawyer was naive. Immigraiton doesn't work
    > that way. Look in to H-1B working visa
    > [/
    > (excuse my forum virginity!)
    > i am from uk and have applied to the dv lottery
    > apparantly i am eligable (i didn't think i would be either)
    > the application is being processed so.................

There are criteria under which you could be born in the UK and still be
eligible. How do you know your DV application is being processed? They
don't provide any status information and only notify winners.
 
Old Sep 30th 2002, 6:19 pm
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There are criteria under which you could be born in the UK and still be
eligible. How do you know your DV application is being processed? They
don't provide any status information and only notify winners.

the usais (united states of america immigration service) website has a facility to check on your application
it is either 'processing' or 'completed'
the winners are notified after april 2003
i reckon there is a 200 to 1 chance
sure beats the billy connoly's lotto
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Old Sep 30th 2002, 7:31 pm
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japayne wrote:
    > If you were born in the UK (except NI) you are not eligible for the DV
    > lottery. You don't say where you are from but I guessed based on where
    > you post from (which is probably a bad idea).
    > Your question about paying a lawyer was naive. Immigraiton doesn't work
    > that way. Look in to H-1B working visa
    > [/
    > (excuse my forum virginity!)
    > i am from uk and have applied to the dv lottery
    > apparantly i am eligable (i didn't think i would be either)
    > the application is being processed so.................
    > thanks for info regarding H1-B
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Fat chance that you paid an amount of money to some Lottery
assistant. Fat chance also that that money is now lost.
Normally you are not eligible as a UK citizen. Paying money
to a lawyer is (as already stated by others) not the way to
do it. It is a legal process, which can cost a lot of money,
but that goes to INS.
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Old Sep 30th 2002, 8:50 pm
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    > the usais (united states of america immigration service) website has a

Isn't that one of those scam web sites that asks for money for entering the
lottery?
 
Old Sep 30th 2002, 10:35 pm
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japayne wrote:
    > There are criteria under which you could be born in the UK and still be
    > eligible. How do you know your DV application is being processed? They
    > don't provide any status information and only notify winners.
    > the usais (united states of america immigration service) website has a
    > facility to check on your application

OK, but that site has nothing at all to do with the US govt or INS. I
read somewhere that even people from ineligible countries signed up
there. It seems obvious they do no checking at all. I hope you didn't
pay a lot of money for an entry that is free if you do it yourself.
Using the site does not increase you chances at all.

    > it is either 'processing' or 'completed'
    > the winners are notified after april 2003

Can you guarantee this? How do you know they just don't set some random
field in their database (if they have one) that causes the word
'completed' to appear on the page. How could this site possibly get
information that the state dept or INS does not appear to give to anyone
else, especially since it is know they are not in any way affiliated
with the govt?

    > i reckon there is a 200 to 1 chance

Possibly. It's not referred to as a "lottery" for nothing.

I just checked my "eligibility" at the site
www.usais.org and selected
that I was born on in the UK as well as both parents (NI is a separate
choice). The site told me I am eligible for DV which is clearly wrong.

Then I went back and chose my place of birth as "United States" and it
still told me I was eligible.

My current guess is that anyone who chooses any set of selections on the
page will be "eligible"

The real eligibility requirements are here

http://travel.state.gov/DV2004.html

"If a person was born in a country whose natives are ineligible, but
neither of his/her parents was born there or resided there at the time
of the birth, such person may be able to claim nativity in one of the
parents’ country of birth."

LD
 
Old Sep 30th 2002, 10:42 pm
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japayne wrote:
    > There are criteria under which you could be born in the UK and still be
    > eligible. How do you know your DV application is being processed? They
    > don't provide any status information and only notify winners.
    > the usais (united states of america immigration service) website has a
    > facility to check on your application

BS. They don't know any more than anybody else.
They are one of these private companies that charge you money for the
privilege of filling out a simple form that anybody should be able to
figure out on their own.

    > it is either 'processing' or 'completed'

That is *their* internal processing or completed status. It has *nothing*
at all to do with the application once it is received at the consular enter.

Maybe you should read http://travel.state-
.gov/DV2004.html
, especially
these lines:
<<<
NO fee is charged to enter the annual DV program. The U.S. Government employs no
outside consultants
or private mail services to operate the DV program. Any intermediaries or others who
offer
assistance to prepare DV casework for applicants do so without the authority or
consent of the U.S.
Government. Use of any outside intermediary or assistance to prepare a DV entry is
entirely at the
applicant's discretion.

A qualified entry received directly from an applicant has an equal chance of being
selected by the
computer at the Kentucky Consular Center as does an entry received through a paid
intermediary who
completes the entry for the applicant. There is no advantage to mailing early, or
mailing from any
particular place. Every entry received during the mail-in period will have an equal
random chance of
being selected within its region. However, receipt of more than one entry per person
will disqualify
the person from registration, regardless of the source of that entry.
>>>
 
Old Oct 1st 2002, 8:14 am
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thank you to everyone
you have all made me feel a complete fool
and i thought i was reasonably intelligent
i looked at the terms and conditions of the website
and lo and behold it isn'y part of the us goverment
please don't anymore people confirm my stupidity and naivity
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Old Oct 2nd 2002, 11:17 am
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The real point is not so much if you are a British citizen, but if you were
born in the UK. The criteria used by the DV lottery is nativity, not
citizenship. So, if you were for instance born in Ireland you could apply
even though you are a British citizen. As for the scam, sorry, got to pay
attention in the www.wildwest
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    > thank you to everyone
    > you have all made me feel a complete fool
    > and i thought i was reasonably intelligent
    > i looked at the terms and conditions of the website
    > and lo and behold it isn'y part of the us goverment
    > please don't anymore people confirm my stupidity and naivity
    > j
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Old Oct 5th 2002, 9:00 am
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thanks for your help
could anyone please advise-point me in the direction of
sponsorship

a freind has a company...my trade is in something unrelated but could he sponsor me
what is sponsorship

i do appreciate any help
thank you
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