New Florida Gun Law
May 13th 2005, 5:22 pm
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Re: New Florida Gun Law
Originally Posted by Ray
Well if you read obout this going on in the UK
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4539913.stm
You know that "Happy Slapping" will never get anywhere in Florida ..
Slap or punch me.. then run ..
you better be able to beat 1000ft per second....
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4539913.stm
You know that "Happy Slapping" will never get anywhere in Florida ..
Slap or punch me.. then run ..
you better be able to beat 1000ft per second....
http://firearms.smith-wesson.com/sto...31&item=831462
They are scary looking in the flesh, bloody thing is about a foot and a half long and is the update on Dirty Harrys gun, making him look like a girl. Why anyone would quite need one for home defence or otherwise is beyond me.
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May 13th 2005, 5:32 pm
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Re: New Florida Gun Law
Originally Posted by anotherlimey
I love this quote:
"Under a life threatening situation, you have to retreat and put yourself in a very precarious condition. It defies common sense,"
That's right because staying and shooting it out is going to be some much safer.
"Under a life threatening situation, you have to retreat and put yourself in a very precarious condition. It defies common sense,"
That's right because staying and shooting it out is going to be some much safer.
Yeah, that is a beautiful quote isn't it!?! Nice one Jeb!! He is talking complete crap...
Common sense would suggest to me that you avoid life or death situations...
Then if you throw Human instinct into the argument as well... Even the best trained soldier will run if his/her life is threatened. Only a very small minority have the balls (or are crazy enough) to stand there and get shot at!
To suggest that a minority are the ones who possess common sense implies that the majority do not have common sense.
Honestly... Who here would make a conscious decision to stand in the line of fire and think "Yes, this is the correct, logical and sensible thing to do!"?
Answer: No-one. Because it is not what common sense or human instinct tells us to do!
Another feather in the hat for the Bush clan!!
May 13th 2005, 5:49 pm
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Re: New Florida Gun Law
Originally Posted by ironporer
Residents will no longer have a duty to retreat when they encounter a threat outside the home. The bill said a Floridian has the "right to stand his or her ground."
What the f**ks the big problem? Your life is threatened and you kill the SOB instead of getting killed or maimed yourself? Sounds quite logical and correct to me.
What the f**ks the big problem? Your life is threatened and you kill the SOB instead of getting killed or maimed yourself? Sounds quite logical and correct to me.
May 13th 2005, 6:07 pm
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Re: New Florida Gun Law
I do not think too many people are going to dra w their gun when someone has the drop on you, not unless you are Dirty Harry. I was taught only draw your firearm if you intend to use it.
I was taught only draw your firearm if you intend to use it.
May 13th 2005, 6:25 pm
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Re: New Florida Gun Law
Originally Posted by anotherlimey
Well to shoot the other person you need to feel your life is under threat. So that probably means a weapon of some sort will have to be out already. A fast person with a knife will cover at least 20ft before you've pulled your gun, so you'll be cut up before you can say "Don't come any closer". Or perhaps they've already pulled their gun out. You're f***** either way.
May 13th 2005, 6:28 pm
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Re: New Florida Gun Law
Originally Posted by Dan725
They are scary looking in the flesh, bloody thing is about a foot and a half long and is the update on Dirty Harrys gun, making him look like a girl. Why anyone would quite need one for home defence or otherwise is beyond me.
May 13th 2005, 6:30 pm
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Re: New Florida Gun Law
Originally Posted by ironporer
By that inane logic, as long as I'm ****ed, at least I'll go down defending myself instead of running away and dying just the same.
Think about it.
May 13th 2005, 6:32 pm
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Re: New Florida Gun Law
Originally Posted by Dan725
Or a lot faster than that...think I'll have to go out and buy myself one of these now
http://firearms.smith-wesson.com/sto...31&item=831462
They are scary looking in the flesh, bloody thing is about a foot and a half long and is the update on Dirty Harrys gun, making him look like a girl. Why anyone would quite need one for home defence or otherwise is beyond me.
http://firearms.smith-wesson.com/sto...31&item=831462
They are scary looking in the flesh, bloody thing is about a foot and a half long and is the update on Dirty Harrys gun, making him look like a girl. Why anyone would quite need one for home defence or otherwise is beyond me.
For self defence you need something between a .380 and a 9mm
May 13th 2005, 6:32 pm
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Re: New Florida Gun Law
Give me one situation where you'll feel threatened enough to pull a gun where the other person won't have the upperhand already.
May 13th 2005, 7:22 pm
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Re: New Florida Gun Law
Originally Posted by anotherlimey
Give me one situation where you'll feel threatened enough to pull a gun where the other person won't have the upperhand already.
May 13th 2005, 7:24 pm
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Re: New Florida Gun Law
Originally Posted by Bob
traffic lights and road rage, or someone doing the shunt scam to get you out the car...
May 13th 2005, 7:24 pm
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Re: New Florida Gun Law
Originally Posted by ImHere
Thats a load of bollox. You still have to justify your use of lethal force in a court of law. You just have the right to use it in defence of your own life and limb (or a third party's) anywhere you have the legal right to be. If you shot someone because they cut you up you are still going to jail. Best part of the new law is that if you are justified in using lethal force then the bad guy and/or his family can no longer sue you for damages. Also note this does not only apply to the use of firearms, you could now, for instance, legally use a baseball bat or what ever to defend yourself if you are somewhere you are legally entitled to be and someone tries to mug/rape/assault you. This also doesnt change the law as regards carrying a weapon: you still have to be lawfully licensed to carry by the state and and still cannot brandish or use a weapon as leverage in an argument, for instance.
As far as I can see its a good reason to live in Florida and I applaud the state for having the guts to give rights back to the lawabiding of the place to defend ourselves against the scum of society. Infact all those that have in other threads said they would kill someone who attacked their kids....now we have the right to do that very thing at the time the attack takes place.
As far as I can see its a good reason to live in Florida and I applaud the state for having the guts to give rights back to the lawabiding of the place to defend ourselves against the scum of society. Infact all those that have in other threads said they would kill someone who attacked their kids....now we have the right to do that very thing at the time the attack takes place.
I was sort of joking, but it appears quite a logical defence, a 3 ton SUV could quite easily squash my car and me in it.
As far as I can see the law does not specify how you feel threatened, Gun, Knife or SUV seem equally vaild.
Just waiting for the Law and Order episode that covers it, strikes me that this law could be used by many undesirables, whol carries a gun around in a public place anyway, you are already OK defending your property.
PS - my view is that UK law swings too far the other way.
May 13th 2005, 7:26 pm
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Re: New Florida Gun Law
Originally Posted by anotherlimey
Could just be someone hit your car, and you pull a gun?????
I think.
May 13th 2005, 7:27 pm
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Re: New Florida Gun Law
Originally Posted by Bob
Dessert Eagle still has the grunt, get a .50 cannon, that'll really be scary, and take that git out through the engine block of his car *lol*
May 13th 2005, 7:29 pm
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Re: New Florida Gun Law
Originally Posted by Boiler
Would appear so, you have the entitlement and the Prosecution would have to prove beyond reasonable doubt that you did not.
I think.
I think.