http://help.unotelly.com/support/art...thout-a-credit

Unless a update removed the option for "None", it should be on the right of all the payment options.

It would seem crazy that you can set up a credit card free account from an iPad, but not from iTunes.

Thanks that link explained where I was going wrong. Just creating a new account doesn't bring up the no credit card option, I need to click on the free app first.

You can, but I think doing it from the device, you're cancelling services first, which you don't when doing it from iTunes, which means you can then log out and in on the device without any issues.

Which for Lansbury was the main issue due to cloud services.

So do you guys watch stuff on your ipad etc??

I tend to download programs so I can burn them to DVD or transfer to a USB stick to watch on the main system.

I watch a tonne of stuff on my ipad. I download a lot of stuff on the iPlayer and 4OD (ITV and 5 don't have a download facility yet) and either watch stuff straight on my ipad or hook the tv up to the ipad and watch it there. I do the same with FilmOn if I want to watch stuff live.

Do you get HD, surround sound etc?

I watch most things on my ipad. I do get HD . For surround sound or close to it I recently purchased Bose SL III. Sounds great and works via Bluetooth. Anything the ipad plays once connected plays through Bose

On my laptop (Macbook Air) updated itself when I tested it a few minutes ago, so don't have to do anything on laptop. I might try it for my iPad. Gonna give it a go and see if I'm successful

When you download via the iPlayer, you get the choice of normal or high quality downloads. If you choose high quality, I believe it's HD. I only have a sound bar so not sure on the cup surround sound. Also should have mentioned that the 4OD app doesn't work with the video out function on the ipad, so you'd have to watch any channel 4 downloads actually on the ipad.

There is also an app called tv catchup that will likely work

Doesn't work with a VPN.

The Apple TV gadget works pretty well for wirelessly streaming from your ipad to the tv ($75 refurbished from the apple store online). Also, it does pretty much the same stuff as a Roku I think, but only worth getting Apple TV if you have an ipad and regularly want to connect it to the tv as it mirrors what's on the ipad to the tv (so good for photo slideshows too, etc). By the way thanks for the info on accessing the BBC iplayer app. I use a DNS but still hadn't been able to get the iplayer app so just watch stuff straight from the BBC website. So if you download a program is it actually saved to the ipad? Where do you go on the ipad to find the show and start playback?

You play it back from the app, in much the same way as you would with the iPlayer desktop app on a PC.

OK, so kind of like adding a film to a Netflix queue. It's not actually on your device.