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Old Jun 22nd 2008 | 12:02 pm
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Originally Posted by backagen
You're certainly not the only one to have tried emigrating as a way of "running away" from your problems.

It's a hopeless thing to do and rarely, if ever, actually works in the long run. Sadly though there are multiple TV shows, magazines and advertisements on in UK even now that actively ENCOURAGE people there to emigrate as a way of escaping everyday problems! Makes my blood boil when I see that, because I know only too well it just makes your problems 1000 times worse!

Anyway, my only advice is that, having been through something that's probably quite similar to what you're going through, I would say try to force yourself to take a step back and relax a little, otherwise the emotional stress will get the better of you and it won't do your situation any good at all.

If you can just tell yourself, very firmly, that you WILL get through all your problems, and that within a year or so (or whatever timeframe you find realistic and achievable for you) you WILL be back in UK, and most or all of your problems will be well on the way to being sorted out, then you will find it much easier.

Make some definate plans, and just do whatever it takes (including living on beans and toast if necessary) to achieve them.

Also I would advise you to take a very tough, independant attitude to it all. Tell yourself "I'm going to do this in spite of everyone, and I will show them I can deal with all this and still come out on top in spite of them all!" (feel perfectly free to add a few expletives into that if you wish!)

Basically nobody is likely to be interested in helping you (unless you are extraordinarily lucky) because nobody really understands your situation (with the exception of me and others you 'talk' to on this forum, we have been there and we do understand!) so you have to do it for YOU, and be TOUGH in spite of it all!

It's no use talking to your family and friend in UK, because they're all brainwashed into thinking everything is terrible in UK and wonderful almost anywhere else in the world. They think you're LUCKY to be where you are!!!

Hope that helps a little!
yeah, that makes sense, thanks for the advice!
 
Old Jun 22nd 2008 | 12:23 pm
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Yeah, I know, I always come here to vent, but it's either here or I let it out at work.
I'm fed up with no one understanding what the hell I'm saying!
My God, if they were in England, no one would have much problem understanding them, where is the big bloody problem?
I'm probably going to end up losing my job or something because customers cannot understand me. I can't even fake a decent American accent, let alone a southern one and when I try to speak more clearly (as told to by my boss) I end up sounding posh English. All I'm doing is just confusing everyone. It's embarrassing and really pissing me off.
Every customer points it out, and yeah I know it's a bit of a novelty for them but I'm just trying to do my job the same as everyone else, I'm not being paid to be British.
I've only been there 3 days, and I think I'm going to end up walking out because of it.
The actual job is well easy, if I was around people I could understand well and they could understand me, there would be no problem at all, but the accent problem works both ways and if I cannot understand the customers and they cannot understand me, that's a huge frustrating problem.
It just makes me more determined to go home. I just want out of here now.

I could've posted that,, ave had a helluva time with my accent it really gets me down, but what ave found the more you try to chage it the worse you sound and the less your understood, just slow it down a bit.

Goodluck with your situation.

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Old Jun 22nd 2008 | 12:24 pm
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I could've posted that,, ave had a helluva time with my accent it really gets me down, but what ave found the more you try to chage it the worse you sound and the less your understood, just slow it down a bit.

I thought of you when I read the original post.

Now back to me Margaret pm and tell me how's things.
 
Old Jun 22nd 2008 | 12:32 pm
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I could've posted that,, ave had a helluva time with my accent it really gets me down, but what ave found the more you try to chage it the worse you sound and the less your understood, just slow it down a bit.

Goodluck with your situation.
That's right. My boss said to me to "try to speak clearly", how the hell do I do that? I can't do a southern drawl, well I can, but I'm not confident to do that in public and it would sound so fake and insulting.
 
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That's right. My boss said to me to "try to speak clearly", how the hell do I do that? I can't do a southern drawl, well I can, but I'm not confident to do that in public and it would sound so fake and insulting.

It is amazing how much this can get you down.
 
Old Jun 22nd 2008 | 12:37 pm
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It is amazing how much this can get you down.
I can understand it from their point of view, I mean, we have all rang call centers based in India and got annoyed because we can't understand them, but it's not easy to change the way anyone speaks!
 
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I can understand it from their point of view, I mean, we have all rang call centers based in India and got annoyed because we can't understand them, but it's not easy to change the way anyone speaks!

But given that your standard of English is probably better than your average American, it is pretty galling.

I once lived in the South of England and for three years I was asked to repeat myself for nearly every sentence. It is damaging to self-esteem.
 
Old Jun 22nd 2008 | 12:45 pm
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But given that your standard of English is probably better than your average American, it is pretty galling.

I once lived in the South of England and for three years I was asked to repeat myself for nearly every sentence. It is damaging to self-esteem.
It is. I have a very thick accent, I know I have. It's NW Kent mixed with South London and a bit of Essex thrown in (Just across the river from Essex, so that got merged in with it). Everyone from my hometown speaks like it and we do have a tendency to speak fast. I have slowed it down a lot since being here, and even more so at work, so that I am understood, I have spoken more clearly and STILL they can't understand me! I never let go with the way I speak unless I'm talking on the phone to my family or friends, or with my hub, because no one else understands what I'm going on about.
 
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Probably a silly question, but have you tried speaking with NO accent at all?

Just say the words in a sort of monotone way, very, VERY slowly, and avoid using any English words they wouldn't understand (such as "luv", "bap" etc).

If you can master that then surely even the yanks should be able to understand you.

I do know what you're going through though. It took me over 10 years before I could speak in such a way that the average Australian didn't ask me to repeat myself.

I still love it when I'm back in UK (or here talking to an English person) because it's the only time I can really speak naturally in my real accent.

The rest of the time I do as I suggested above (speak with no accent, or at least try). Most Aussies can still pick that I have an English accent, but they can at least understand me.

When I first arrived here it was constant repetition, especially if I said something like "Butter" (which they pronounce "Batter"), or "Yoghurt" (which they pronounce "Yo-gat").
 
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Originally Posted by backagen
Probably a silly question, but have you tried speaking with NO accent at all?

Just say the words in a sort of monotone way, very, VERY slowly, and avoid using any English words they wouldn't understand (such as "luv", "bap" etc).

If you can master that then surely even the yanks should be able to understand you.

I do know what you're going through though. It took me over 10 years before I could speak in such a way that the average Australian didn't ask me to repeat myself.

I still love it when I'm back in UK (or here talking to an English person) because it's the only time I can really speak naturally in my real accent.

The rest of the time I do as I suggested above (speak with no accent, or at least try). Most Aussies can still pick that I have an English accent, but they can at least understand me.

When I first arrived here it was constant repetition, especially if I said something like "Butter" (which they pronounce "Batter"), or "Yoghurt" (which they pronounce "Yo-gat").
lol, how is anyone supposed to speak with no accent, everyone has one, they just don't realise it, lol!!!
 
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Originally Posted by backagen
Probably a silly question, but have you tried speaking with NO accent at all?

Just say the words in a sort of monotone way, very, VERY slowly, and avoid using any English words they wouldn't understand (such as "luv", "bap" etc).

If you can master that then surely even the yanks should be able to understand you.

I do know what you're going through though. It took me over 10 years before I could speak in such a way that the average Australian didn't ask me to repeat myself.

I still love it when I'm back in UK (or here talking to an English person) because it's the only time I can really speak naturally in my real accent.

The rest of the time I do as I suggested above (speak with no accent, or at least try). Most Aussies can still pick that I have an English accent, but they can at least understand me.

When I first arrived here it was constant repetition, especially if I said something like "Butter" (which they pronounce "Batter"), or "Yoghurt" (which they pronounce "Yo-gat").
I'm quite BBC and I got looked at blankly, my other half has quite a generic soft American accent. Anyone used to hearing different accents can understand both of us instantly. But there, he's fine and I'm not.

Coming up against folk that never hear anything different, even on TV makes it so much harder, it throws them and they just go "huh" or look blank. There is quite often no real effort to put it together either, and that's what frustrated me most.

Hope you have a better day today Emma.
 
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Originally Posted by Emma M
lol, how is anyone supposed to speak with no accent, everyone has one, they just don't realise it, lol!!!
i wish i could, as soon as i open my mouth i get stared at strangely
 
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Originally Posted by Emma M
Yeah, I know, I always come here to vent, but it's either here or I let it out at work.
I'm fed up with no one understanding what the hell I'm saying!
My God, if they were in England, no one would have much problem understanding them, where is the big bloody problem?
I'm probably going to end up losing my job or something because customers cannot understand me. I can't even fake a decent American accent, let alone a southern one and when I try to speak more clearly (as told to by my boss) I end up sounding posh English. All I'm doing is just confusing everyone. It's embarrassing and really pissing me off.
Every customer points it out, and yeah I know it's a bit of a novelty for them but I'm just trying to do my job the same as everyone else, I'm not being paid to be British.
I've only been there 3 days, and I think I'm going to end up walking out because of it.
The actual job is well easy, if I was around people I could understand well and they could understand me, there would be no problem at all, but the accent problem works both ways and if I cannot understand the customers and they cannot understand me, that's a huge frustrating problem.
It just makes me more determined to go home. I just want out of here now.
Emma,

I feel for you I really do. One thing that you might want to do is to go online and have a look at how much a ticket back to the UK is and then focus on getting the money for that. Maybe that way when you're at work, and your feeling a little down at least you can say to yourself another day and another step closer to that plane home.

Also, without sound presumtutious (is that a word?) have you looked at your budget and had a look to see if there's any money you could save, etc.

Good luck.
 
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Originally Posted by Margaret3
i wish i could, as soon as i open my mouth i get stared at strangely
Thing is, it only seems to be at work! When I'm out and about doing other things (as I was today), I had no problem!
 
Old Jun 23rd 2008 | 12:35 pm
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Emma,

I feel for you I really do. One thing that you might want to do is to go online and have a look at how much a ticket back to the UK is and then focus on getting the money for that. Maybe that way when you're at work, and your feeling a little down at least you can say to yourself another day and another step closer to that plane home.

Also, without sound presumtutious (is that a word?) have you looked at your budget and had a look to see if there's any money you could save, etc.

Good luck.
Well someone pm'ed me the other day and told me about orbitz, went on there and had a look, a ticket could cost me around $900 (inc. taxes and fees), so hub and I talked, and it is possible to do!
I have had an offer of a flat over there, so hopefully if that doesn't fall through and nothing goes wrong, I should be going home early September, the day before my daughter's 6th birthday. I would give anything for that to happen, I haven't seen her or my son since last October
It is a really big daydream of mine just lately, to walk up to the front door on her birthday and surprise her. She keeps asking me to come home, which breaks my heart every time.

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