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Old May 13th 2018, 4:54 pm
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Thanks. Any particular neighbourhoods within Jersey City, would you recommend ?
Did you specify Grand Central Terminal in your first post because the job is in midtown? That is why everyone is recommending points north. If you had said the job was downtown, people would indeed have mentioned that New Jersey is an option. The same way as you would probably not want to trek downtown after coming into the city at GCT, you would not want to trek uptown after coming in from NJ!
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Sorry, my job location is literally a 3 minutes walk from Grand Central station.
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Sorry, my job location is literally a 3 minutes walk from Grand Central station.
Then I would indeed suggest that looking at the northerly locations, where the trains come right into GCT, does make the most sense for you.
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I live near Exchange Place, it's really safe here, proven by the 30 expensive buggies left outside on the street for hours, outside the local nursery The Path train from Exchange Place takes 4 mins into World Trade Centre. Plus there are ferries into World Financial Centre, Wall street and Midtown. If you want to pm me I'll recommend a really good apartment block, it's the one I live in and I love it!
Edited as saw you wanted to be close to Grand Central Station: the Path train will also take you to 33rd street station in about 20 minutes if your place of work is near enough to walk from there, or you can get the 4 & 5 train from Fulton Street (attached to the World Trade Centre Path Station) to GCT, including express trains.
I know a commute from NJ to the WTC then Fulton St to GCT is against the normal flow from the WTC, but i really wouldn’t recommend any commute on the 4/5. My work is moving to the WTC at the end of the year, as my previous job was also there, I’m dreading being back on the 4/5.
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Please consider that taking Metro North or LIRR trains every day will add significant cost to your budget. LIRR single ride is about $10, however they do offer monthly pass. Metro North might be similar. Your monthly budget of $2000 may still get you some accommodations in Queens. I do recommend doing some online searches on available apartments in Astoria, Rigdewood, Sunnyside, Woodside, Elmhurst, Rego Park, Kew Gardens, Briarwood. Commuting to Grand Central from all these places is within 45-60 minutes.
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Please consider that taking Metro North or LIRR trains every day will add significant cost to your budget. LIRR single ride is about $10, however they do offer monthly pass. Metro North might be similar. Your monthly budget of $2000 may still get you some accommodations in Queens. I do recommend doing some online searches on available apartments in Astoria, Rigdewood, Sunnyside, Woodside, Elmhurst, Rego Park, Kew Gardens, Briarwood. Commuting to Grand Central from all these places is within 45-60 minutes.
I found that my monthly MNR commuting cost was less than the NYC income tax I paid each month for the couple of months we lived in the city after arriving.
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Thanks. Any particular neighbourhoods within Jersey City, would you recommend ?
From a Westchesterite, I would not venture into Jersey City. High rents, high crime, and you will need a car if you want to go anywhere outside of Jersey City itself. Of course there are lovely areas but not all are the same as with any town or city but to advise someone that they would not require private transportation not true. Hoboken, NJ is also favored as a place for the young and up and coming. Again, unless your plans are only to frequent Manhattan or the city you live in New Jersey, you will need your own car.

Westchester County has much to offer in the way of quick access to Manhattan and most cities are within a 25 to 45 train ride to Grand Central. Monthly commuter tickets are not all that expensive and many companies participate in the City's voucher plan for commuters offering discounted vouchers (and in my case when I was working) up to a certain amount of free vouchers to be applied to your monthly rail pass. The vouchers can be used either with LIRR or Metro North. If you are working in Manhattan 5 days a week, why would anyone in their proper mind purchase a single rail ticket when a monthly or even a 10 pass ticket is a great savings? Westchester has a great public bus transportation network so I guess I could say you don't need a car here but that is only if you can't drive, don't want to drive, can't afford to drive and don't have the desire to travel through the NE states.

Here is the Metro-North Fare Schedule http://web.mta.info/mnr/html/plannin...s_mar2017.html
A sample from the above:
Hudson Line Hastings, Dobbs Ferry, Ardsley = $268 a month

Harlem Line Scarsdale, Hartsdale, White Plains, North White Plains = $268Hudson Line Tarrytown/Sleepy Hollow, Ossining, Croton/Harmon = $311Harlem Line Valhalla, Hawthorne, Pleasantville = $311

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Sorry, my job location is literally a 3 minutes walk from Grand Central station.
As was mine ... 51st and Park Avenue. My train ride on Metro North was 25 minutes on a local train and a 3 minute walk from 42nd and Park/Grand Central Terminal.

As for expense of commute, what Pootlek is recommending would be quite expensive as you will need to pay for the Ferry and/or Path Train and then the Metro Card for the subway and your commute time will increase by 1/3 or better.

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From a Westchesterite, I would not venture into Jersey City. High rents, high crime, and you will need a car if you want to go anywhere outside of Jersey City itself. Of course there are lovely areas but not all are the same as with any town or city but to advise someone that they would not require private transportation not true. Hoboken, NJ is also favored as a place for the young and up and coming. Again, unless your plans are only to frequent Manhattan or the city you live in New Jersey, you will need your own car.

Westchester County has much to offer in the way of quick access to Manhattan and most cities are within a 25 to 45 train ride to Grand Central. Monthly commuter tickets are not all that expensive and many companies participate in the City's voucher plan for commuters offering discounted vouchers (and in my case when I was working) up to a certain amount of free vouchers to be applied to your monthly rail pass. The vouchers can be used either with LIRR or Metro North. If you are working in Manhattan 5 days a week, why would anyone in their proper mind purchase a single rail ticket when a monthly or even a 10 pass ticket is a great savings? Westchester has a great public bus transportation network so I guess I could say you don't need a car here but that is only if you can't drive, don't want to drive, can't afford to drive and don't have the desire to travel through the NE states.

Here is the Metro-North Fare Schedule mta.info | MTA Metro-North Railroad Schedules
A sample from the above:
Hudson Line Hastings, Dobbs Ferry, Ardsley = $268 a month

Harlem Line Scarsdale, Hartsdale, White Plains, North White Plains = $268Hudson Line Tarrytown/Sleepy Hollow, Ossining, Croton/Harmon = $311Harlem Line Valhalla, Hawthorne, Pleasantville = $311
My work doesn't do vouchers, but all three companies I've worked for in NYC offered a transit benefits debit card where you pay for your commuting costs by deduction from your salary. A chunk of this (I think it's up to about $150) can come from your pre-tax income which means your taxable income and thus income tax can be slightly lower. The rest comes from your post-tax income. You use the card to buy your commuter rail tickets and/or Metrocards. I think most employers of any size offer this.
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My work doesn't do vouchers, but all three companies I've worked for in NYC offered a transit benefits debit card where you pay for your commuting costs by deduction from your salary. A chunk of this (I think it's up to about $150) can come from your pre-tax income which means your taxable income and thus income tax can be slightly lower. The rest comes from your post-tax income. You use the card to buy your commuter rail tickets and/or Metrocards. I think most employers of any size offer this.
So that is what is morphed into. I had vouchers 4 years ago. I loved the pre-tax income deduction.
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So that is what is morphed into. I had vouchers 4 years ago. I loved the pre-tax income deduction.
I guess it depends on the employer, I’ve been here eight years now and all three employers offered it through debit cards rather than vouchers.
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When I first moved to NY, my wife had an apartment in Fort Lee NJ. Not the worst place to live - get the Port Imperial ferry from Weehawken over to 38th St. Then hop on the 42nd St courtesy bus which will take you to Grand Central. I now live on Long Island and do a 2 hour commute which might be a little much for you. But if you can stomach an hour then Hicksville or Syosset are good areas to be based and usually a little cheaper than Westchester.
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To OP,

My wife and I also moved from Wandsworth to NY just 2 months ago and cost was also a large consideration for us also as I am still searching for work. However to give you an idea of potential alternatives, we managed to secure a recently renovated 1 bed apartment in China Town Manhattan for about $2,300 pm. With a long commute considered I imagine this would be within your budget, though you would certainly be sacrificing space, we love being so central and being able to make the most of New York on the evenings and weekends.
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Can I ask how you set your rent budget? Most people I know moving from London have ended up significantly increasing what they been willing to spend. Standard is to divide your annual gross salary by 40 to get max monthly rent. I'm not suggesting you go this high but it gives you a sense of what would be approved by a landlord.

I'd also recommend spending time visiting different neighborhoods and towns. Remember that outside of work that's where you'll be spending most of your time. Commute time to Grand Central is only one part of the picture. And that commute time changes drastically when you're trying to get back after a night out in the city or at the weekend. That can be a long and expensive Uber ride. There's a reason why millions of people are willing to pay the premium necessary to live in NYC, it's a very different lifestyle.

On an another point it's worth checking that your NY salary is in line with local levels. You'd be surprised the difference in some industries between London and NY.
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