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Old Feb 23rd 2026 | 4:31 am
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Originally Posted by robin1234
A lot of food for thought in this thread, but since the OP has a two year old, I’d focus in on the safety, health and security of young children. Measles, just one example. There was a good article in the Atlantic a couple of days ago, titled “How Measles will Kill Your Children” or similar. Some it kills during the course of the disease, through pneumonia or similar. Others it kills several years later, through progressive brain damage and dementia. (Most make a full recovery from measles.)

Then, school shootings and other random violence.
My child is vaccinated against measles...!
 
Old Feb 23rd 2026 | 4:35 am
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Originally Posted by zzrmark
OP states that both are GC holders, that they left the US 5 years ago and have until August before re-entry option expires. As they now have a 2 year old child it seems reasonable to assume with no further information that the child does not have a green card and that the OP wishes to enter using those current GC's.
If that's the case then I wonder if the OP's husband has thought about having to petition the child for an immigrant visa first - and the 3/4+ year wait that will mean they can't move anytime soon anyway. If I were the OP, I'd get another re-entry permit and submit a I-130 for the child at the same time. That will buy some time for them both to decide what they want to do.
 
Old Feb 23rd 2026 | 7:07 am
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Originally Posted by zzrmark
OP states that both are GC holders, that they left the US 5 years ago and have until August before re-entry option expires. As they now have a 2 year old child it seems reasonable to assume with no further information that the child does not have a green card and that the OP wishes to enter using those current GC's.

Child issues aside, this country feels no less safe than when I first came here in 2013 and to be perfectly honest my home country, the UK, appears less appealing with every subsequent visit I make
My child has a green card: if you enter the US as valid greencard holders with a child born outside of the US before the child is two (which we did), they can apply on entry. It was an absolute nightmare tbh - we had to fight to get on the plane because the child did not have an ESTA (the airline had to get permission from US immigration to override the system and let us check in). When we landed we were stuck in secondary for 5 hours (over night basically, and secondary in MIA is not where you want to spend 5 hours with a toddler and no food - there are actual jail cells in secondary!). The immigration officers did not know the rule (which I had helpfully printed out for them), and it took hours for them to figure it out, and finally approve it. Green card arrived two weeks later ... But yes, we all have green cards now... just in case ...
 
Old Feb 23rd 2026 | 7:08 am
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Originally Posted by christmasoompa
If that's the case then I wonder if the OP's husband has thought about having to petition the child for an immigrant visa first - and the 3/4+ year wait that will mean they can't move anytime soon anyway. If I were the OP, I'd get another re-entry permit and submit a I-130 for the child at the same time. That will buy some time for them both to decide what they want to do.
I thought re- entry permits generally for 2 years, and my impression was for Green Card holders each renewal of re-entry permit brought about more questions - so now to apply for another re-entry permit to be approved before August, and at the same time a I-130 for the child, it seems a quick move back is not likely in any case.

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Originally Posted by sherbert
My child is vaccinated against measles...!
I have a relative in America and in his state there is a religious exemption from taking vaccines : absolutely crazy since the anti-vaccine crowd rarely has a religious reason for not taking vaccines, So that state he is in has been one of worst for measles outbreak- so child's school now has even some of the anti-vaccine nuts getting measles vaccine for children, yet relying on religious exemption for not taking other vaccines.


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Old Feb 23rd 2026 | 7:29 am
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Originally Posted by sherbert
Exactly. My OH has a romanticised idea of how things are. He doesn't understand that things have changed vastly since Covid and the orange gibbon. He doesn't read the news. He doesn't understand how different life would be living there with a child.
I lived in Bay Area three times in my life, last time with children and before Trump and Covid - I certainly would not want to bring up a child in the Bay Area, and having a child obviously is much different than living in Bay Area without a child.
 
Old Feb 23rd 2026 | 9:52 am
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Originally Posted by morpeth
I thought re- entry permits generally for 2 years, and my impression was for Green Card holders each renewal of re-entry permit brought about more questions - so now to apply for another re-entry permit to be approved before August, and at the same time a I-130 for the child, it seems a quick move back is not likely in any case.
They are valid for 2 years but it takes them about a year to process them so you basically get it for three years because it's valid for two years from the date of issue. We extended a second time, no issues. I don't need an I-130 for the child as they already have their greencard (see above). I wouldn't be applying for a new re-entry permit.

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Old Feb 23rd 2026 | 9:53 am
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Originally Posted by morpeth
I lived in Bay Area three times in my life, last time with children and before Trump and Covid - I certainly would not want to bring up a child in the Bay Area, and having a child obviously is much different than living in Bay Area without a child.
What are your reservations about it? I have many, but it would be good to know if they are valid!
 
Old Feb 23rd 2026 | 9:56 am
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Originally Posted by christmasoompa
If that's the case then I wonder if the OP's husband has thought about having to petition the child for an immigrant visa first - and the 3/4+ year wait that will mean they can't move anytime soon anyway. If I were the OP, I'd get another re-entry permit and submit a I-130 for the child at the same time. That will buy some time for them both to decide what they want to do.
All three of us have green cards. I can't buy anymore time - decision has to be made!
 
Old Feb 23rd 2026 | 10:04 am
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Originally Posted by Rete
Apparently neither of them are US Citizens and will be transferring to the US solely on a work visa provided by the husband's firm. As such, I'm sure that the firm will also include their child in the visa scheme so the babe will not be having to wait outside of the US for permission to reside here. None of them will enter with a green card unless they have one from their previous stay in the US and it has not been relinquished.
Where did I ever say that we were transferring on a work visa? I literally wrote that we are green card holders with valid reentry permits that expire in August. Did you not even read my post!?

Originally Posted by Rete
While I understand why you hesitate in moving back to the US, not everything or everywhere in the US a bad place to live and raise children. Politics are a revolving issue with a new president being elected every four years. Crime is not rampant although it tends to make the headlines. There is crime and bad politics in all countries in Europe. From my viewpoint, there is little difference between here and there. As for your husband's chronic illness, there are excellent medical facilities throughout the world and I'm sure where you are living (assume in England) he can be treated successfully where you are currently residing.
We are not living in the UK. The health service where we live is not very advanced. It is true he would get better care in the US (his condition was treated well when we lived there in the past).

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The issue, from my viewpoint, is that you don't wish to move. You enjoy your life where you are and enjoy having close family near to you and your child. Perhaps all that is necessary is that your husband finds a new job and a new medical facility. Wishing you a happy outcome to this issue where you both find a good life, good health and continue to enjoy your extended family.
I do not have any family close - but moving to the US would render them even further away, and it's the only small handful of family my child has. I do not particularly enjoy living where I live and don't mind moving. It's moving to the US in particular that is the issue. Moving to the UK is an option but it's hard to 'import a non UK spouse' these days and there is also an NHS surcharge (which admittedly would be less than US health insurance premiums in the long run).

I can't believe how much you inferred ... and invented...from my simple post.
 
Old Feb 23rd 2026 | 10:08 am
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Originally Posted by PetrifiedExPat
I bi%^h a lot about the US, in particular the education system, however, would I do it again? In a heartbeat. Our QoL is far better here than vs the UK.
Can you expand on your quality of life in the US over UK?

I never thought I'd want to move back to the UK but you know...no earthquakes, forest fires, hurricanes, catastrophic flooding...no guns, no homeless issues where I'd want to live, decent schools, no crackheads (or are they fentanyl heads these days?) on every corner ...
 
Old Feb 23rd 2026 | 10:14 am
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Originally Posted by Former Lancastrian
When did the US become this alleged dystopian place to live and why are thousands still wanting to emigrate there? Of course some are free to leave the US like Ellen DeGeneres who moved to the UK who has now bought another property in Monticeto and looks like returning to live.

Oh if Trump wins a 2nd term then Im leaving the US. Well how many did leave?
Well, I do imagine that if you live in some states, and you are pregnant and don't want to be, or are happily pregnant but unfortunately your pregnancy is unviable, or you are literally shot dead exercising your right to protest by government authorised thugs, then yes you *are* living in a dystopian nightmare.

But that aside ... yes, this is what I am trying to ascertain: am I reading too much clickbait? Are things really terrible? Or is it just life as normal if you happen to live in a 'normal' place and are not in an unfortunate target demographic group?

I also have this feeling that something will 'happen' that will somehow 'prevent' the next election and there you go, stuck with you know who ...I could be way off the mark but maybe I will be back in a couple of years and smugly point out this comment!
 
Old Feb 23rd 2026 | 10:19 am
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Originally Posted by MidAtlantic
I wouldn't see these things as any reason for or against moving.

Measles are widespread in England and Europe (Do we know where the OP currently lives?).

School shootings occasionally happen everywhere - Canada the latest.

Random violence is exactly that, random. Just like the USA, there is plenty of random violence in England and Europe.
No measles where I am (southern Europe) - the only people who do not vax their children here are the American expats 'seeking refuge' in a country that doesn't force children to be vaccinated to go to school (but only because it's almost unheard of for children not to be vaccinated: they just don't think to ask about it, because who wouldn't vaccinate their children!).

Let's be real here: the odds of being shot in school, or really shot anywhere, anywhere in the world is infinitesimally small compared to the US.
 
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Originally Posted by sherbert
Well, I do imagine that if you live in some states, and you are pregnant and don't want to be, or are happily pregnant but unfortunately your pregnancy is unviable, or you are literally shot dead exercising your right to protest by government authorised thugs, then yes you *are* living in a dystopian nightmare.

But that aside ... yes, this is what I am trying to ascertain: am I reading too much clickbait? Are things really terrible? Or is it just life as normal if you happen to live in a 'normal' place and are not in an unfortunate target demographic group?

I also have this feeling that something will 'happen' that will somehow 'prevent' the next election and there you go, stuck with you know who ...I could be way off the mark but maybe I will be back in a couple of years and smugly point out this comment!
I hold the same fears that you describe in your final paragraph. And I don’t think the fear of the orange idiot trying to hold onto power by any means possible is far fetched at all. And his followers are total sheep who refuse to open their eyes.

It is my feeling that any country that puts a nut like RFK Jr in charge of medical affairs is asking for trouble. He has just refused to let the health authorities do the final review of a vaccine for the latest new flu strain.

And for the “it won’t happen to me” set, I live in the idyllic town where 20 six-year-old children went happily off to school one morning, and never came home. That kind of event is far more likely to happen in the US as the NRA continues to wield power at the voting booths.
 
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Originally Posted by sherbert
No measles where I am (southern Europe) - the only people who do not vax their children here are the American expats 'seeking refuge' in a country that doesn't force children to be vaccinated to go to school (but only because it's almost unheard of for children not to be vaccinated: they just don't think to ask about it, because who wouldn't vaccinate their children!).

Let's be real here: the odds of being shot in school, or really shot anywhere, anywhere in the world is infinitesimally small compared to the US.
That’s an exaggeration…. in first world countries maybe, Egypt, and most of South and Central America are higher and I would guess Gaza would also be the same if it was a country….

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