Moving back home to escape the craziness
#31
Quite frankly if people are happy in the US, I cannot understand why on earth they would go to the trouble of moving home, when it could all change in 31/2 years. 😵â€ðŸ’«
#32
I’ve been doing my best to ignore the government and just get on with my life, but the garbage the president has been spouting about Ukraine and Zelensky the last couple of days is absolutely terrifying and disgusting. It does make one wonder what this country is going to become—especially for those with young children.
#34
Posts about the current political situation in America which are in the US forum are fine, as it’s relevant.
You’re free to express your political opinions as much as you like, as long as it’s within site rules, in an appropriate place, and not hijacking somebody else's unrelated thread.
HTH.
You’re free to express your political opinions as much as you like, as long as it’s within site rules, in an appropriate place, and not hijacking somebody else's unrelated thread.
HTH.
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Posts about the current political situation in America which are in the US forum are fine, as it’s relevant.
You’re free to express your political opinions as much as you like, as long as it’s within site rules, in an appropriate place, and not hijacking somebody else's unrelated thread.
HTH.
You’re free to express your political opinions as much as you like, as long as it’s within site rules, in an appropriate place, and not hijacking somebody else's unrelated thread.
HTH.
#36
Hope that clarifies it. Feel free to post your political views in this thread now and as long as you don’t break any rules when doing so, they’ll remain on the thread. And if you want a really good political discussion, then head to TIO where you’ll find tons to get stuck in to.
Any other queries, please PM a mod, ta.
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I deleted your post because you were posting about moderator actions, which is against Site Rule 15. The deletion had nothing at all to do with politics. If you wish to comment on my action please PM me and not discuss it on the forum. Thank you.
#38
I own a house, I have kids still finishing school, so moving back to the UK involves pulling up roots. If it gets really bad then at least I know I could do it, although I have let my UK passport lapse since I got my US one. My wife would need a new visa, no idea how I would go about that after entering the country again. No idea if I could even get money for my current house if everything goes to hell, or if my money is going to be worth much, so buying somewhere new might be tough. So not moving right now, but I've thought about it.
It's all so crazily unpredictable, with Trump literally declaring himself king (he's always joking except when he isn't) and writing executive orders that overrule the constitution and the courts with not enough pushback. Apart from the economy about to head south, we have no idea what wild idea he will come up with next and how he will punish those he thinks have wronged him in some unpredictable way. I don't think anyone foresaw his verbal attacks on Greenland, Panama, and Canada.
It's all so crazily unpredictable, with Trump literally declaring himself king (he's always joking except when he isn't) and writing executive orders that overrule the constitution and the courts with not enough pushback. Apart from the economy about to head south, we have no idea what wild idea he will come up with next and how he will punish those he thinks have wronged him in some unpredictable way. I don't think anyone foresaw his verbal attacks on Greenland, Panama, and Canada.
#39
As an aside, are you aware that as of 2025, thanks to the UKs version of an ESTA, British citizens are required to enter the UK using a British passport?
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#40
They authorized an ETA on my US passport even though I informed them I am a British Citizen and have a current UK passport, so I don’t think it will be a problem for UK citizens to enter the UK on a US passport. I usually use my UK one, but have used my US passport at times.
#41
Thread drift. If you wish to continue discussing Trump/Moscow etc please do so in TIO. Posts moved to relevant thread. Thanks.
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As for myself, I'm planning on having as much flexibility as possible, so ensuring my UK passport is kept current, and applied to become a US citizen at last, and figuring out citizenship for immediate family. I'm also moving as much money out of future taxable income as possible, especially converting IRAs to Roth to avoid future tax, whether that's in the US or having to pay tax on it in the UK at a higher rate if I move. If nothing comes of this coup, fine.
I've been here 30 years. For those who might not have been here then, in the late 90's Clinton era, the famous 'debt clock' (wherever it was, Times square maybe?) was actually turned off because the debt stopped increasing. So with a bit of analysis, what factors were at play to balance taxes and spending back then, and why can't we do that now?
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It will take me a few years to convert all my IRAs without incurring excess tax, and I'd still be left with other retirement investments that are tax advantaged, but once in a Roth you can take any amount out to cash, and since tax was already paid on it I don't see that changing any time soon (hmm, I know). I'm moving some money to UK accounts, too, and thinking of other ways to protect it. I'm not sure social security or tax advantages will survive at all, especially for non-citizens, green card or not.
As for the dollar, who knows. The push by the far right and the tech oligarchy (which is genuinely what they are now) to normalize crypto seems destined to devalue the dollar and take the power of currency out of the hands of the government. That might sound like a surprising aim, but these are very radical people. Read the (long) Wikipedia entry on Project 2025 to see how far they're prepared to go, and have already gone.
As for the dollar, who knows. The push by the far right and the tech oligarchy (which is genuinely what they are now) to normalize crypto seems destined to devalue the dollar and take the power of currency out of the hands of the government. That might sound like a surprising aim, but these are very radical people. Read the (long) Wikipedia entry on Project 2025 to see how far they're prepared to go, and have already gone.
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For those who might not have been here then, in the late 90's Clinton era, the famous 'debt clock' (wherever it was, Times square maybe?) was actually turned off because the debt stopped increasing. So with a bit of analysis, what factors were at play to balance taxes and spending back then, and why can't we do that now?
That in combination with large spending initiatives for net zero and infrastructure renewal (Inflation Reduction Act) and tax cuts.
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I've been here 30 years. For those who might not have been here then, in the late 90's Clinton era, the famous 'debt clock' (wherever it was, Times square maybe?) was actually turned off because the debt stopped increasing. So with a bit of analysis, what factors were at play to balance taxes and spending back then, and why can't we do that now?





