Moving with animals
Feb 13th 2017 | 9:21 pm
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Re: Moving with animals
Yah, I figured you were moving. I didn't actually think you'd agree with my suggestion... but that option always exists.
It's so easy to shift blame, that no one even thinks about taking responsibility anymore! It's not your fault it's a cat. It's not your fault you're moving. It's not your fault the cabin uses circulated air. It's not your fault there are other people on board! At what point do you accept responsibility for your actions? For taking a cat in the cabin? That's on you! You would be deliberately and negatively affecting the comfort, pleasure, and health of someone on board that flight... and you feel no responsibility at all? I'm astounded!
As I already noted, animal allergies are not generally screened for.
You must not be very good at research! There are threads on BE about flying and animal allergies that go back a good 10 years!
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It's so easy to shift blame, that no one even thinks about taking responsibility anymore! It's not your fault it's a cat. It's not your fault you're moving. It's not your fault the cabin uses circulated air. It's not your fault there are other people on board! At what point do you accept responsibility for your actions? For taking a cat in the cabin? That's on you! You would be deliberately and negatively affecting the comfort, pleasure, and health of someone on board that flight... and you feel no responsibility at all? I'm astounded!
As I already noted, animal allergies are not generally screened for.
You must not be very good at research! There are threads on BE about flying and animal allergies that go back a good 10 years!
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Feb 13th 2017 | 9:22 pm
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Re: Moving with animals
I'm not slamming you for this post as you clearly love your cat as much as I love mine. So you want your cat with you for you. However, the cat is a cat and will experience any flight in a different way entirely.
You may / may not be liable but you would be 100% responsible if someone who had booked their flight seat in good faith & who had a fear/allergy to cats found themselves in difficulties from being confined with your pet .
The best place for a pet to air travel is in the pet hold of the aircraft. Where it is quiet and calm . Away from disturbing unfamiliar noises and odours. Where they can simply settle and sleep.
As I wrote , I've done this with two cats .
In the best interests of the cat ( or dog or.... horse - yup they are air transported too) do not make them suffer being packed in with people.
In the best interests of other passengers, do not make them have to allow for your pet . It is not that comfy a way to travel as it is.
Of course, some airlines may allow pets in passenger cabins within their carry crates . Goodness knows how that is for a cat that is nervous of dogs or barks. Or a dog that yearns to rattle a cat. That , I suppose, is about the owner of the pet and their wants. Not about the pets themselves.
Please have that chat with Golden Arrow. They really will put your mind at rest and guide you what will be best for your pet.
You may / may not be liable but you would be 100% responsible if someone who had booked their flight seat in good faith & who had a fear/allergy to cats found themselves in difficulties from being confined with your pet .
The best place for a pet to air travel is in the pet hold of the aircraft. Where it is quiet and calm . Away from disturbing unfamiliar noises and odours. Where they can simply settle and sleep.
As I wrote , I've done this with two cats .
In the best interests of the cat ( or dog or.... horse - yup they are air transported too) do not make them suffer being packed in with people.
In the best interests of other passengers, do not make them have to allow for your pet . It is not that comfy a way to travel as it is.
Of course, some airlines may allow pets in passenger cabins within their carry crates . Goodness knows how that is for a cat that is nervous of dogs or barks. Or a dog that yearns to rattle a cat. That , I suppose, is about the owner of the pet and their wants. Not about the pets themselves.
Please have that chat with Golden Arrow. They really will put your mind at rest and guide you what will be best for your pet.
Feb 13th 2017 | 9:24 pm
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Re: Moving with animals
Depends on which coast you're going to as well. When we moved to the US, my elderly dog made the trip in pampered comfort on the Queen Mary 2 from Southampton to New York, accompanied by my parents. The crossing was 7 days and she was very chilled and relaxed when I picked them up from Brooklyn Cruise Terminal. Cunard also take cats on transatlantic crossings.
Something to consider if you're looking at the North-Eastern US.
Something to consider if you're looking at the North-Eastern US.
I think that would be a cool way to travel. We would probably be going to Texas to begin with so I'll have a look into the port at Galveston. Thank you!
Feb 13th 2017 | 11:40 pm
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Feb 15th 2017 | 4:23 am
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Thanks but again irrelevant to my query!
Feb 15th 2017 | 4:28 am
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I struggle to think of anything much worse than having an animal in the cabin on a transatlantic flight.
I hope the airlines I travel on don't allow this.
I hope the airlines I travel on don't allow this.
Feb 15th 2017 | 4:55 am
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Feb 15th 2017 | 5:00 am
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Re: Moving with animals
Agreed and I'm a dog lover. Pets have no place in the cabin.
I realise it's an anxious time for the owner...but the pet can usually handle it better than the owner.
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Feb 15th 2017 | 5:39 am
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Re: Moving with animals
Pretty much everything I would say has already been said by BEVS, Ian, and JerseyGirl.
I have owned both dogs and cats, but they have no place in the cabin of an aircraft. I am glad that pets are not allowed on flights into and out of the UK, and I am unlikely to book a flight via France, Germany, or the Netherlands so I can be sure I don't have to share a flight with pets.
I have owned both dogs and cats, but they have no place in the cabin of an aircraft. I am glad that pets are not allowed on flights into and out of the UK, and I am unlikely to book a flight via France, Germany, or the Netherlands so I can be sure I don't have to share a flight with pets.
Feb 15th 2017 | 1:54 pm
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Re: Moving with animals
Hi! Looking for peoples' experiences having moved from UK to US with animals (we have a cat currently). Would not consider having him in cargo. I've found a comprehensive list of airlines who allow them in cabin, do they really make you keep them in carriers the whole flight? Did you have to sedate your animal at all? How did you handle feedings/restroom? Any tips on how to prepare cats for this type of experience (having them travel frequently maybe in the car for a start? I don't know.)? Any issues with quarantine or the like? Or everything ok with proper vet documentation and pet passport?
I too was concerned about them travelling as cargo but was assured by everyone (including the vet) that this was the best way for them to travel as mentioned by others - they have their own area of the hold and it is kept warmer, dark etc to allow the pets to settle as best they can and even get a little sleep, have a drink and something to eat etc). On arrival in Texas they were fine, they obviously had not slept much and one of them who is noisy anyway, had obviously had a lot to say on the trip as she was hoarse! They were both tired but otherwise absolutely fine.
In some ways it was less stressful for us too (and no doubt other passengers) not to have them travel in the cabin as their carriers would have been very small to be able to fit under the seat which is where they have to go if you take them in the cabin. This gives you very little room for your own comfort on a long flight. Instead they had very roomy secure crates with a small water dish and food dish. For us, we couldn't check up on them every so often so we just had to accept that we were moving our pets for the first time on an international long haul flight but the airlines had done so many more times than us and were the experts.
Feb 15th 2017 | 3:02 pm
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Re: Moving with animals
I too was concerned about them travelling as cargo but was assured by everyone (including the vet) that this was the best way for them to travel as mentioned by others - they have their own area of the hold and it is kept warmer, dark etc to allow the pets to settle as best they can and even get a little sleep, have a drink and something to eat etc). On arrival in Texas they were fine, they obviously had not slept much and one of them who is noisy anyway, had obviously had a lot to say on the trip as she was hoarse! They were both tired but otherwise absolutely fine.
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Feb 15th 2017 | 3:23 pm
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Re: Moving with animals
The OP is interested in and asked for...people's experience transporting their pets. She thanked lizzyq and has yet to read the post made by Phoodilicious.
The rest of us...including me...gave our opinions which weren't asked for...but hey ho that's the way it rolls on BE.
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