Move to Phoenix, AZ???? Please Help!!
#16
When you come down I-17 onto I-10 you can see all these glittering skyscrapers in the distance and you think: "oooh, that looks interesting" and then you pull into downtown and wonder why you did. And if it's the summer the objective seems to be to blind you with mirrored buildings at the same time you're about to die from heat exhaustion.
#17
We're not doing a good job of selling Phoenix are we? That said, the AZ legislators don't make it easy to like this place.
Arcadia's not too bad.
Arcadia's not too bad.
#18
Rene
#19
I love the location of Phoenix in that it's a few hours south of pine trees and cooler weather in Flagstaff/Sedona/Grand Canyon. It's only about 5 hours to go east to even bigger mountains (White Mountains) with great skiiing in the winter, lots of small towns with forest and cabins, and then a couple of hours south to more deserty stuff if that's what you like.
Rene
Rene
"Phoenix, it's close to other places"
#20
There are lots of things to do in Arizona, endless national monuments and parks, not sure that appeals to a young about-the-town couple.
I like the Apache Trail, I do laugh at Americans though who think it is a "tough" road.
I like the Apache Trail, I do laugh at Americans though who think it is a "tough" road.
#21
Oh well, I do like living in Phoenix and so far in my travels haven't found anywhere else in the USA that I prefer. I did like Seattle, but maybe that's because I rarely see rain and I love rain. But if I saw it every day, I might not like it as much.
Rene
#22
Phoenix - slightly less old people per capita than Scottsdale;
Phoenix - where the term: "Sheriff's Posse" is still in common use;
Phoenix - highest tag fees in the country and we still only give you one licence plate;
Phoenix - where old white people gather together to moan about latino people;
Phoenix - the Sheriff of our county is 81 years old, which is considered middle-aged;
Phoenix - we built the ugliest State Capitol building just to piss off Frank Lloyd Wright;
Phoenix - we have so many immigrants that we put our USCIS office in a refurbished supermarket;
Phoenix - we're passing a State law to discriminate against gays, but one of our largest employers is Cox;
Phoenix - our convention centre has a Hooters!
Phoenix - where the term: "Sheriff's Posse" is still in common use;
Phoenix - highest tag fees in the country and we still only give you one licence plate;
Phoenix - where old white people gather together to moan about latino people;
Phoenix - the Sheriff of our county is 81 years old, which is considered middle-aged;
Phoenix - we built the ugliest State Capitol building just to piss off Frank Lloyd Wright;
Phoenix - we have so many immigrants that we put our USCIS office in a refurbished supermarket;
Phoenix - we're passing a State law to discriminate against gays, but one of our largest employers is Cox;
Phoenix - our convention centre has a Hooters!
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Hi All,
Been a while since I posted, everything went well with my move to Los Angeles, then I became single and it took a while to get back to a point of happiness in myself and being around here....
Anyway, skip ahead 2 years and my partner of 5 months has been offered a great opportunity in Phoenix AZ. I like her a lot, want to be supportive but I am fearful (more so than of L.A or even Vegas, which was another option).
I have never been to Phoenix, I know nothing about it, good areas to live, bad areas to live. Will I drive more, less, the same as in Los Angeles?
I am 30 she is 28 and we both like upmarket restaurants and craft beers, from what I can see about Phoenix its one big suburbs which is great if you have kids. Not so great for people wanting a bit of excitement, but maybe I am wayyyy off the mark.
I had a quick look at the IT job market out there and it seems people get paid much less than in L.A. But the cost of living is considerably less too.
Hoping the ever mindful sages among you can give me some insight on nightlife, neighbourhoods and IT career prospects. Especially as the areas biggest employer is Walmart
Thanks all!
Ned
Been a while since I posted, everything went well with my move to Los Angeles, then I became single and it took a while to get back to a point of happiness in myself and being around here....
Anyway, skip ahead 2 years and my partner of 5 months has been offered a great opportunity in Phoenix AZ. I like her a lot, want to be supportive but I am fearful (more so than of L.A or even Vegas, which was another option).
I have never been to Phoenix, I know nothing about it, good areas to live, bad areas to live. Will I drive more, less, the same as in Los Angeles?
I am 30 she is 28 and we both like upmarket restaurants and craft beers, from what I can see about Phoenix its one big suburbs which is great if you have kids. Not so great for people wanting a bit of excitement, but maybe I am wayyyy off the mark.
I had a quick look at the IT job market out there and it seems people get paid much less than in L.A. But the cost of living is considerably less too.
Hoping the ever mindful sages among you can give me some insight on nightlife, neighbourhoods and IT career prospects. Especially as the areas biggest employer is Walmart

Thanks all!
Ned
IT is growing in the South West for the following reasons
Cheap Land
Low Regulations
Low Taxes
Right to Work Laws
Low Power costs
Arizona, Nevada, Utah have all of those
California is regulation nation, and is hemorrhage jobs and job creators...
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I'd still rather live in California, couldn't pay me to live in AZ again.
Phoenix region is also losing at least one large corporate HQ and support jobs in the coming months, and will likely see a reduction in air service in the next 2-3 years, but you will have a nice big airport with empty gates.
#28
Phoenix is a better IT location because it is less disaster prone than California. That is the only real reason. Income taxes are a bit lower too.
Has been for a long time as far as I'm aware, Arizona has this weird two-tier fee, the registration fee then an add-on for the value of the vehicle so at first glance the fee looks really low but actually they're the highest in the US, AFAIK. This explains it, sort of: http://www.azdot.gov/media/blog/post...es-calculated-
I always think it's dumb because it makes people drive cars that are falling to bits, they'd earn more from sales tax revenue if people went out and bought new cars.
More then California now?
I always think it's dumb because it makes people drive cars that are falling to bits, they'd earn more from sales tax revenue if people went out and bought new cars.
#29
Cheap Land
Low Regulations
Low Taxes
Right to Work Laws
Low Power costs
Arizona, Nevada, Utah have all of those
Low Regulations
Low Taxes
Right to Work Laws
Low Power costs
Arizona, Nevada, Utah have all of those
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I did have a nice couple of pints of Fullers ESB though.You are much better off at the George and Dragon food wise.




