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davids9317 Dec 28th 2013 2:07 pm

Mechanical Engineer Job Offer
 
Hi all,
Sorry for this post since this type of question has been asked but i'd like to hear about my specific situation.

I'm a mechanical engineer with a bachelor degree, i have 11 years experience in industrial engineering (3.5 years post grad, 7.5 years as a tradesman in the same industry) in the UK, i consider myself pretty employable over here. I'm a 32yr old single male, no ties etc.

My dream is to live and work in the USA, i understand i'm going to need a job offer to get H1B sponsorship but i'm wondering if this is a futile endeavour; most jobs adverts state they will not sponsor expats.

Do you think i have a viable chance of getting a job offer?

Pulaski Dec 28th 2013 2:49 pm

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As a single person you have a option. ;)

AmerLisa Dec 28th 2013 3:19 pm

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Originally Posted by Pulaski (Post 11053523)
As a single person you have a option. ;)

Where did you run off to?

Noorah101 Dec 28th 2013 3:24 pm

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Originally Posted by davids9317 (Post 11053485)
Do you think i have a viable chance of getting a job offer?

A job offer, yes. Whether you can find an employer to sponsor your work visa is another matter. But of course you can keep pursing it...maybe you'll land something, who knows?

Rene

Bluegrass Lass Dec 28th 2013 3:26 pm

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You could also look into obtaining a job in the UK office of a US-based company, and after working for them for a year, try to get transferred to the US office.

Btw, I hold a degree in Industrial Engineering, and I while I know there is some overlap with the ME field, there are definite differences between the two disciplines in the US. So it may appear odd to employers for an ME to apply for IE positions. Saying that, though, experience usually counts for more; so if all your experience is an IE type role, having an ME degree probably wouldn't be held against you. I'm not sure I understand what you mean by being a tradesman though?

I would also suggest you start networking. Often, in the US, it's more about who you know to help you get a foot in the door somewhere.

davids9317 Dec 28th 2013 4:34 pm

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Originally Posted by Pulaski (Post 11053523)
As a single person you have a option. ;)

Haha!!

davids9317 Dec 28th 2013 4:39 pm

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Originally Posted by Bluegrass Lass (Post 11053553)
You could also look into obtaining a job in the UK office of a US-based company, and after working for them for a year, try to get transferred to the US office.

Btw, I hold a degree in Industrial Engineering, and I while I know there is some overlap with the ME field, there are definite differences between the two disciplines in the US. So it may appear odd to employers for an ME to apply for IE positions. Saying that, though, experience usually counts for more; so if all your experience is an IE type role, having an ME degree probably wouldn't be held against you. I'm not sure I understand what you mean by being a tradesman though?

I would also suggest you start networking. Often, in the US, it's more about who you know to help you get a foot in the door somewhere.

I have an ME degree and all my experience is ME based so this would be the line of work i'm looking for. By tradesman I mean a mechanical technician or fitter so could take a step down from the engineer level if this makes me more employable in the USA.

Yes i think the global company route is a good one but a bit more long winded i think….

civilservant Dec 28th 2013 6:40 pm

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Yes i think the global company route is a good one but a bit more long winded i think….
Hardly - if you landed the right role after a year you could look at it, as you have found yourself companies are not looking to spend $5k to bring in someone from abroad in your field. 1 in the hand is worth 2 in the bush and all that.

Pulaski Dec 28th 2013 6:53 pm

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Originally Posted by davids9317 (Post 11053619)
Haha!!

I wasn't necessarily joking. :o I am not the only one here on BE who would likely not be in the US were it not for an American spouse.

I don't see anything in your post, and no one else has asked, ...... do you have any experience of living in the US, are you just a theoretical dreamer? ..... There's nothing wrong with that, IMO, BTW. :)

Michael Dec 28th 2013 7:07 pm

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Originally Posted by davids9317 (Post 11053619)
Haha!!

Besides the obvious, generally someone that is single can move more easily than someone that is married and has children. This may possibly make it easier to get a company transfer since you may be able to move without all the enticing expatriate benefits that they would normally provide to someone with the needed experience that the company needs to transfer.

jeffreyhy Dec 28th 2013 7:49 pm

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The grass is pretty green over here, but a lot of it is artificial turf or spray paint.

Regards, JEff

Originally Posted by davids9317 (Post 11053485)
My dream is to live and work in the USA, ...


Noorah101 Dec 28th 2013 7:49 pm

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Originally Posted by davids9317 (Post 11053621)
Yes i think the global company route is a good one but a bit more long winded i think….

Not really. If you're looking for an H1B visa, the earliest an employer can file a petition right now is April 2014 for a start date in October 2014. Longer if you can't find an employer to sponsor you until after April 2014 (because then they'd have to wait until April 2015).

If you were able to find a job with an international company who has offices in the USA fairly soon, you will be eligible to transfer after only 1 year working for that company.

Rene

davids9317 Dec 28th 2013 8:20 pm

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Originally Posted by Pulaski (Post 11053723)
I wasn't necessarily joking. :o I am not the only one here on BE who would likely not be in the US were it not for an American spouse.

I don't see anything in your post, and no one else has asked, ...... do you have any experience of living in the US, are you just a theoretical dreamer? ..... There's nothing wrong with that, IMO, BTW. :)

The spouse option; wouldn't i need to be living in the US to find one hence need a job etc anyway?

Yes i must admit my experience of america comes from my gut, heart and research but as an adventure and a life goal it can't be that wrong….

davids9317 Dec 28th 2013 8:21 pm

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Thanks for you info by the way guys!

Pulaski Dec 28th 2013 8:31 pm

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Originally Posted by davids9317 (Post 11053787)
The spouse option; wouldn't i need to be living in the US to find one ....

Nope. Online dating recognises no frontiers. ..... It worked for me! :)

davids9317 Dec 28th 2013 8:41 pm

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Originally Posted by Pulaski (Post 11053799)
Nope. Online dating recognises no frontiers. ..... It worked for me! :)

Would you mind telling me the sequence then? Eg you found someone, went on a few holidays then got a visa (before being married?)…..

notshipman Dec 28th 2013 9:13 pm

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Originally Posted by Pulaski (Post 11053523)
As a single person you have a option. ;)

Is it maybe optimistic to think that there is always an American willing to marry a single British bloke?

civilservant Dec 28th 2013 9:14 pm

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Originally Posted by Pulaski (Post 11053799)
Nope. Online dating recognises no frontiers. ..... It worked for me! :)

And me! :D

Jerseygirl Dec 28th 2013 9:25 pm

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Originally Posted by notshipman (Post 11053837)
Is it maybe optimistic to think that there is always an American willing to marry a single British bloke?

Well there is wotshername from the other thread...:lol:

civilservant Dec 28th 2013 9:29 pm

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Is it maybe optimistic to think that there is always an American willing to marry a single British bloke?
150m American women, 30m British Men. You do the math Doctor.

Sally Redux Dec 28th 2013 9:32 pm

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Usual warning about checking whether the 'dream' is really what you want before landing yourself with a wife as well.

Yorkieabroad Dec 28th 2013 10:53 pm

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Originally Posted by notshipman (Post 11053837)
Is it maybe optimistic to think that there is always an American willing to marry a single British bloke?

I can recommend a rather dodgy bar in Singapore with tons of them..that's where I met mine.....you've just got to be swift on your toes to turn it from her seeking a UK passport to you becoming a GC holder.....a few weeks in the UK (about 15 miles from Middlesbrough!) in late November worked magically for me:lol:

Pulaski Dec 28th 2013 11:17 pm

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Originally Posted by davids9317 (Post 11053806)
Would you mind telling me the sequence then? Eg you found someone, went on a few holidays then got a visa (before being married?)…..

That's it, more or less, 'cept I didn't have (need) a visa because Mrs P came to live in the UK for a couple of years before we moved to the US.

Originally Posted by civilservant (Post 11053840)

Originally Posted by Pulaski (Post 11053799)
Nope. Online dating recognises no frontiers. ..... It worked for me! :)

And me! :D

And several other regulars here, I believe.

Originally Posted by Sally Redux (Post 11053867)
Usual warning about checking whether the 'dream' is really what you want before landing yourself with a wife as well.

Bah humbug! You only live once, shoot for your dreams, or risk spending the rest of your life wondering what might have been. :frown:

Ulsterman in Texas Dec 28th 2013 11:22 pm

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Originally Posted by civilservant (Post 11053840)
And me! :D

And me too, sort off.

notshipman Dec 28th 2013 11:34 pm

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Saw a clip on some docu. few months that showed someone entering the US to meet someone they had only met online! She had no money, was unemployed in her own country but the story was true and they let her in!

Agree on the 5:1 ratio Mr Servant but I not sure a UK accent plus red passport is that much of a winner state side.

Michael Dec 28th 2013 11:40 pm

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Originally Posted by notshipman (Post 11053957)
Saw a clip on some docu. few months that showed someone entering the US to meet someone they had only met online! She had no money, was unemployed in her own country but the story was true and they let her in!

Agree on the 5:1 ratio Mr Servant but I not sure a UK accent plus red passport is that much of a winner state side.

A UK accent can get your foot in the door but it can't perform miracles.

Jerseygirl Dec 28th 2013 11:44 pm

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Originally Posted by notshipman (Post 11053957)
Saw a clip on some docu. few months that showed someone entering the US to meet someone they had only met online! She had no money, was unemployed in her own country but the story was true and they let her in!

Agree on the 5:1 ratio Mr Servant but I not sure a UK accent plus red passport is that much of a winner state side.

http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?t=818848

She's not the first to post on here and I'm sure she won't be the last...

Pulaski Dec 29th 2013 12:04 am

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Originally Posted by notshipman (Post 11053957)
.... but I not sure a UK accent plus red passport is that much of a winner state side.

Averages don't mean much to individual experiences, but annecdotally my experience, and that of several others here, is that you're wrong. ... Of course having a good grasp of English grammar also helps tip the balance. ;)

Originally Posted by Michael (Post 11053962)
A UK accent can get your foot in the door but it can't perform miracles.

Agreed, but if you're smart, educated, with a degree and/or career, a foot in the door is more than half the battle. Everyone needs an ice-breaker angle to strike up a first conversation, and IME having an English accent is as good an icebreaker as any in the US. .... twelve years in the US and it still gets me a conversation I'd estimate once every three weeks on average, but as often as 2-3 times a week even now. Also having a British accent seems to confer an appearance of sophistication and education that may be unwarranted. :o

Weeze Dec 29th 2013 12:23 am

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Originally Posted by jeffreyhy (Post 11053770)
The grass is pretty green over here, but a lot of it is artificial turf or spray paint.

Regards, JEff

You've clearly never been to Middlesbrough.

Pulaski Dec 29th 2013 12:41 am

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Originally Posted by Weeze (Post 11053997)
You've clearly never been to Middlesbrough.

..... In December, when the sun sets around 3.45pm, and doesn't rise until almost 8.30am! :(

davids9317 Dec 29th 2013 9:23 am

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Originally Posted by civilservant (Post 11053862)
150m American women, 30m British Men. You do the math Doctor.

Have we missed the American men from this equation though?

davids9317 Dec 29th 2013 9:32 am

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Originally Posted by Pulaski (Post 11053980)
Averages don't mean much to individual experiences, but annecdotally my experience, and that of several others here, is that you're wrong. ... Of course having a good grasp of English grammar also helps tip the balance. ;)

Agreed, but if you're smart, educated, with a degree and/or career, a foot in the door is more than half the battle. Everyone needs an ice-breaker angle to strike up a first conversation, and IME having an English accent is as good an icebreaker as any in the US. .... twelve years in the US and it still gets me a conversation I'd estimate once every three weeks on average, but as often as 2-3 times a week even now. Also having a British accent seems to confer an appearance of sophistication and education that may be unwarranted. :o

A few of the reasons i'd love to try life in America, do you think a visit would be a good idea? Or keep my savings to fund a move? The cost of a visit would be half my savings; about 6 months

davids9317 Dec 29th 2013 9:38 am

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Originally Posted by Pulaski (Post 11054006)
..... In December, when the sun sets around 3.45pm, and doesn't rise until almost 8.30am! :(

Ah it seems three of us share the same knowledge; that when the sun rises over the glorious town of Middlesborough it reveals some of the worlds true wonders…...

Pulaski Dec 29th 2013 12:09 pm

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Originally Posted by davids9317 (Post 11054243)
A few of the reasons i'd love to try life in America, do you think a visit would be a good idea? Or keep my savings to fund a move? The cost of a visit would be half my savings; about 6 months

To answer this, and your original question, finding an employer who will go through the cost and time delay to bring an engineer from overseas is going to be extremely tough. Not least because based on my own experience, and that of others here on BE, most employers completely ignore applications from overseas, and those that don't are usually ignorant of the visa process. Earlier this year it was reported here on BE that a BMW mechanic had been "offered" a job in Florida, he just had to arrange his own visa! :rolleyes:

When I was looking for my first job in the US (I am not an engineer), I had a very enthusiastic agent in the US who very quickly scheduled five interviews with good quality employers, but only when I was in the US at my own expense. :unsure: And all those jobs were on the basis of me arranging my own visa.

You could try talking to recruitment agents in the US, but I suspect that you will have no luck in finding any employers who will fund a visa for an engineer without (with all due respect to you) extraordinary experience and qualifications. So you are left with either trying to find an employer who will relocate you (after at least a year), or finding your own means to obtain a visa. (See thread above. ;) )

Visiting the US might have some value, but you are most likely to have no more luck than the above mentioned BMW mechanic, and in any case you should not confine your search to one state or region, because your goal of employment in the US is more than tough enough without insisting that your heart is set on relocating to, say, Nebraska.

Originally Posted by davids9317 (Post 11054247)
Ah it seems three of us share the same knowledge; that when the sun rises over the glorious town of Middlesborough it reveals some of the world's true wonders…...

However the sun rises a minute or two earlier just to the south in God's own county. ;)

Originally Posted by davids9317 (Post 11054232)
Have we missed the American men from this equation though?

They're not serious competition for a marriage-minded Englishman (or Scotsman, or Welshman)! :nod:

Mr Weeze Dec 29th 2013 12:41 pm

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Originally Posted by davids9317 (Post 11054247)
Ah it seems three of us share the same knowledge; that when the sun rises over the glorious town of Middlesborough it reveals some of the worlds true wonders…...

The smog almost makes the sky look like it is on fire....

(I'm from about 30 miles up the road)

davids9317 Dec 29th 2013 12:54 pm

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Originally Posted by Pulaski (Post 11054339)
To answer this, and your original question, finding an employer who will go through the cost and time delay to bring an engineer from overseas is going to be extremely tough. Not least because based on my own experience, and that of others here on BE, most employers completely ignore applications from overseas, and those that don't are usually ignorant of the visa process. Earlier this year it was reported here on BE that a BMW mechanic had been "offered" a job in Florida, he just had to arrange his own visa! :rolleyes:

When I was looking for my first job in the US (I am not an engineer), I had a very enthusiastic agent in the US who very quickly scheduled five interviews with good quality employers, but only when I was in the US at my own expense. :unsure: And all those jobs were on the basis of me arranging my own visa.

You could try talking to recruitment agents in the US, but I suspect that you will have no luck in finding any employers who will fund a visa for an engineer without (with all due respect to you) extraordinary experience and qualifications. So you are left with either trying to find an employer who will relocate you (after at least a year), or finding your own means to obtain a visa. (See thread above. ;) )

Visiting the US might have some value, but you are most likely to have no more luck than the above mentioned BMW mechanic, and in any case you should not confine your search to one state or region, because your goal of employment in the US is more than tough enough without insisting that your heart is set on relocating to, say, Nebraska.

However the sun rises a minute or two earlier just to the south in God's own county. ;)

They're not serious competition for a marriage-minded Englishman (or Scotsman, or Welshman)! :nod:

I'm glad i contacted you guys, although the easy option (H1B sponsorship) isn't actually the easy option by the sounds of things at least i know my path and i can focus my efforts. Think i'll look for work with an international company!

davids9317 Dec 29th 2013 12:56 pm

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Originally Posted by Yorkieabroad (Post 11053934)
I can recommend a rather dodgy bar in Singapore with tons of them..that's where I met mine.....you've just got to be swift on your toes to turn it from her seeking a UK passport to you becoming a GC holder.....a few weeks in the UK (about 15 miles from Middlesbrough!) in late November worked magically for me:lol:

What are they all doing in a Singaporean bar? Travellers?

Pulaski Dec 29th 2013 1:05 pm

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Originally Posted by davids9317 (Post 11054380)
I'm glad i contacted you guys, although the easy option (H1B sponsorship) isn't actually the easy option by the sounds of things at least i know my path and i can focus my efforts. Think i'll look for work with an international company!

Don't forget to invest a few £££ in a match.com, chemistry.com, etc. account! :)

Originally Posted by davids9317 (Post 11054382)
What are they all doing in a Singaporean bar? Travellers?

It's an expat hang-out. .... You know how expats tend to like to hang out with a crowd of compatriots! :rolleyes:

Mr Weeze Dec 29th 2013 1:32 pm

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Originally Posted by davids9317 (Post 11054380)
I'm glad i contacted you guys, although the easy option (H1B sponsorship) isn't actually the easy option by the sounds of things at least i know my path and i can focus my efforts. Think i'll look for work with an international company!

Look into oil companies then (my industry). Always short of people. Although it does mean you might have to live in Aberdeen for a few years.

davids9317 Dec 29th 2013 1:36 pm

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Originally Posted by Mr Weeze (Post 11054426)
Look into oil companies then (my industry). Always short of people. Although it does mean you might have to live in Aberdeen for a few years.

Yeah I'm thinking Woodgroup (they're looking for mechanical technicians), theres petrofac and the rig owners like BP etc…..


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