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Old Jan 11th 2006, 11:41 pm
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Nope, that bit of the evidence could be deemed inadmissible ... this kind of thing goes on all the time with regard to UK security agencies engaged in bugging terror suspects without a warrant, that evidence is tainted, so it is not admitted, but that does not mean the court case is dismissed. The case is decided on the merits based on evidence admitted as evidence in the court proceeding. In Northern Ireland terror suspects are still found guilty without even a jury to hear the admissible evidence. The judge deciding the case most likely hears the inadmissible evidence even if the judge later decides he/she will not rely on that evidence in deciding guilt or innocence. Cases against terror suspects are hardly ever dismissed on a technicality. Please understand that I am not saying I agree with this kind of thing, I'm merely stating what I understand to be how it works in the UK.
I understand what you're saying. I was taking it to the extreme. My point was although it's done it's not legal and as such they don't have the legal right to do it as you first said.
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Old Jan 12th 2006, 12:42 am
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I understand what you're saying. I was taking it to the extreme. My point was although it's done it's not legal and as such they don't have the legal right to do it as you first said.
But then again a lot of jobs are only succesful due to some rule bending.
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Old Jan 12th 2006, 2:01 am
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Old Jan 12th 2006, 2:29 am
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But then again a lot of jobs are only succesful due to some rule bending.

But that would be illegal something I never witnessed
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Old Jan 12th 2006, 2:59 am
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I understand what you're saying. I was taking it to the extreme. My point was although it's done it's not legal and as such they don't have the legal right to do it as you first said.
Yes, such acts are illegal acts and therefore evidence from such acts should not be admissible as evidence, I worry that a NI judge deciding a terrorist case (without a jury) will likely be aware of a inadmissible and admissible evidence and then has to apply mental compartmentalization to decide a case on the merits of the admissible evidence. I worry that a judge who is deciding such a case might be influenced by information from inadmissible wire taps. A jury would not get to see the inadmissible evidence, so can't be tainted by such evidence in arriving at their verdicts.

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Old Jan 12th 2006, 3:14 am
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But that would be illegal something I never witnessed
I never witnessed anything like that either. Guess either it doesnt happen or i was looking elsewhere at the time.
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