Jesus Camp
Oct 5th 2006 | 7:03 am
#31
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Re: Jesus Camp
Originally Posted by ironporer
I have to wonder what the Gay community thinks of this whole issue. It seems Foley like his boys young, but in most states 17 is above the age for legal consent I believe.
So is he a perv for being gay, or a perv for liking young men, or a perv for sending them email? If the boy was 18 at the time, could he have come out (no pun intended) and told the world it was his personal life and none of their buisiness? Does the fact that this was investigated by FL newspapers over a year ago and dropped due to lack of cooperation by the boy...before being leaked to CREW who sent it to the FBI and the media even matter?
To me it smells of a fully orchestrated and choreographed October surprise, and makes the Dems look so damn two faced it is incredible. Clinton gets BJ's on the oral office by a 20 year old intern and it's no problem.... Republican sends dirty emails to a 17 year old and the world comes down on him.
Fu ck politicians, every one of them. Term limits should be applied- 8 years, then they take them out back and shoot them.
So is he a perv for being gay, or a perv for liking young men, or a perv for sending them email? If the boy was 18 at the time, could he have come out (no pun intended) and told the world it was his personal life and none of their buisiness? Does the fact that this was investigated by FL newspapers over a year ago and dropped due to lack of cooperation by the boy...before being leaked to CREW who sent it to the FBI and the media even matter?
To me it smells of a fully orchestrated and choreographed October surprise, and makes the Dems look so damn two faced it is incredible. Clinton gets BJ's on the oral office by a 20 year old intern and it's no problem.... Republican sends dirty emails to a 17 year old and the world comes down on him.
Fu ck politicians, every one of them. Term limits should be applied- 8 years, then they take them out back and shoot them.
Oct 5th 2006 | 7:05 am
#32
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Re: Jesus Camp
Originally Posted by ironporer
I have to wonder what the Gay community thinks of this whole issue. It seems Foley like his boys young, but in most states 17 is above the age for legal consent I believe.
So is he a perv for being gay, or a perv for liking young men, or a perv for sending them email? If the boy was 18 at the time, could he have come out (no pun intended) and told the world it was his personal life and none of their buisiness? Does the fact that this was investigated by FL newspapers over a year ago and dropped due to lack of cooperation by the boy...before being leaked to CREW who sent it to the FBI and the media even matter?
To me it smells of a fully orchestrated and choreographed October surprise, and makes the Dems look so damn two faced it is incredible. Clinton gets BJ's on the oral office by a 20 year old intern and it's no problem.... Republican sends dirty emails to a 17 year old and the world comes down on him.
Fu ck politicians, every one of them. Term limits should be applied- 8 years, then they take them out back and shoot them.
So is he a perv for being gay, or a perv for liking young men, or a perv for sending them email? If the boy was 18 at the time, could he have come out (no pun intended) and told the world it was his personal life and none of their buisiness? Does the fact that this was investigated by FL newspapers over a year ago and dropped due to lack of cooperation by the boy...before being leaked to CREW who sent it to the FBI and the media even matter?
To me it smells of a fully orchestrated and choreographed October surprise, and makes the Dems look so damn two faced it is incredible. Clinton gets BJ's on the oral office by a 20 year old intern and it's no problem.... Republican sends dirty emails to a 17 year old and the world comes down on him.
Fu ck politicians, every one of them. Term limits should be applied- 8 years, then they take them out back and shoot them.
http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/...nyearold_.html
And apparently, the Republican party knew about Foley's behaviour years ago.
And so much for a Democrat leak: http://www.hillnews.com/thehill/expo...506/news2.html
Still I'm sure you can find something to blame the Democrats for...
Last edited by anotherlimey; Oct 5th 2006 at 7:10 am.
Oct 5th 2006 | 7:09 am
#33
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Re: Jesus Camp
Originally Posted by ironporer
I have to wonder what the Gay community thinks of this whole issue. It seems Foley like his boys young, but in most states 17 is above the age for legal consent I believe.
So is he a perv for being gay, or a perv for liking young men, or a perv for sending them email? If the boy was 18 at the time, could he have come out (no pun intended) and told the world it was his personal life and none of their buisiness? Does the fact that this was investigated by FL newspapers over a year ago and dropped due to lack of cooperation by the boy...before being leaked to CREW who sent it to the FBI and the media even matter?
To me it smells of a fully orchestrated and choreographed October surprise, and makes the Dems look so damn two faced it is incredible. Clinton gets BJ's on the oral office by a 20 year old intern and it's no problem.... Republican sends dirty emails to a 17 year old and the world comes down on him.
Fu ck politicians, every one of them. Term limits should be applied- 8 years, then they take them out back and shoot them.
So is he a perv for being gay, or a perv for liking young men, or a perv for sending them email? If the boy was 18 at the time, could he have come out (no pun intended) and told the world it was his personal life and none of their buisiness? Does the fact that this was investigated by FL newspapers over a year ago and dropped due to lack of cooperation by the boy...before being leaked to CREW who sent it to the FBI and the media even matter?
To me it smells of a fully orchestrated and choreographed October surprise, and makes the Dems look so damn two faced it is incredible. Clinton gets BJ's on the oral office by a 20 year old intern and it's no problem.... Republican sends dirty emails to a 17 year old and the world comes down on him.
Fu ck politicians, every one of them. Term limits should be applied- 8 years, then they take them out back and shoot them.
Oct 5th 2006 | 7:10 am
#34
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Re: Jesus Camp
He is a criminal for trying to seduce under-aged boys.
He is a criminal for sexually harassing people in subordinate positions and abusing his position of power.
He is incorrigible for now blaming his behavior on alcohol and previous abuse by a clergyman.
He's a perv for thinking that boys that age would find him attractive and acting on his own delusional overly high opinion of himself. I mean really, he's no better than the men in their mid-forties who hit on 16 year old girls. Being gay should not get him a get out of jail free card when it comes to statutory rape.
He is a criminal for sexually harassing people in subordinate positions and abusing his position of power.
He is incorrigible for now blaming his behavior on alcohol and previous abuse by a clergyman.
He's a perv for thinking that boys that age would find him attractive and acting on his own delusional overly high opinion of himself. I mean really, he's no better than the men in their mid-forties who hit on 16 year old girls. Being gay should not get him a get out of jail free card when it comes to statutory rape.
Originally Posted by ironporer
I have to wonder what the Gay community thinks of this whole issue. It seems Foley like his boys young, but in most states 17 is above the age for legal consent I believe.
So is he a perv for being gay, or a perv for liking young men, or a perv for sending them email? If the boy was 18 at the time, could he have come out (no pun intended) and told the world it was his personal life and none of their buisiness? Does the fact that this was investigated by FL newspapers over a year ago and dropped due to lack of cooperation by the boy...before being leaked to CREW who sent it to the FBI and the media even matter?
To me it smells of a fully orchestrated and choreographed October surprise, and makes the Dems look so damn two faced it is incredible. Clinton gets BJ's on the oral office by a 20 year old intern and it's no problem.... Republican sends dirty emails to a 17 year old and the world comes down on him.
Fu ck politicians, every one of them. Term limits should be applied- 8 years, then they take them out back and shoot them.
So is he a perv for being gay, or a perv for liking young men, or a perv for sending them email? If the boy was 18 at the time, could he have come out (no pun intended) and told the world it was his personal life and none of their buisiness? Does the fact that this was investigated by FL newspapers over a year ago and dropped due to lack of cooperation by the boy...before being leaked to CREW who sent it to the FBI and the media even matter?
To me it smells of a fully orchestrated and choreographed October surprise, and makes the Dems look so damn two faced it is incredible. Clinton gets BJ's on the oral office by a 20 year old intern and it's no problem.... Republican sends dirty emails to a 17 year old and the world comes down on him.
Fu ck politicians, every one of them. Term limits should be applied- 8 years, then they take them out back and shoot them.
Oct 5th 2006 | 7:11 am
#35
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Re: Jesus Camp
Originally Posted by gruffbrown
Aren't there laws in some States about age differences between consenting adults? I don't know if Florida is one.
Oct 5th 2006 | 7:12 am
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Re: Jesus Camp
Originally Posted by Leslie66
I think he pulled this nonsense in Washington though.
Oct 5th 2006 | 7:13 am
#37
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Re: Jesus Camp
Originally Posted by ironporer
<snip>. Clinton gets BJ's on the oral office by a 20 year old intern and it's no problem.... <snip>
I hardly think it was "no problem" the whole thing pretty much stymied his presidency and rendered him ineffectual for the remainder of his term.
Oct 5th 2006 | 7:16 am
#38
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Re: Jesus Camp
Originally Posted by Leslie66
I think he pulled this nonsense in Washington though.
I find his behaviour odd, not illegal just odd.
just admit you like young lads, which he obviously does.....
blaming behaviour on your lifestyle isn't an excuse. being gay and a drunk doesn't make you a Dog......being horny makes you a Dog.
Oct 5th 2006 | 7:19 am
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Re: Jesus Camp
Originally Posted by Manc
age of consent in Washington is 16
I find his behaviour odd, not illegal just odd.
just admit you like young lads, which he obviously does.....
blaming behaviour on your lifestyle isn't an excuse. being gay and a drunk doesn't make you a Dog......being horny makes you a Dog.
I find his behaviour odd, not illegal just odd.
just admit you like young lads, which he obviously does.....
blaming behaviour on your lifestyle isn't an excuse. being gay and a drunk doesn't make you a Dog......being horny makes you a Dog.
Oct 5th 2006 | 7:23 am
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Re: Jesus Camp
Originally Posted by ironporer
Fu ck politicians, every one of them. Term limits should be applied- 8 years, then they take them out back and shoot them.
Oct 5th 2006 | 7:23 am
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Re: Jesus Camp
As usual people interpret what is written to insinuate whatever they want. So let me make it clear where I stand on homosexuality. Although I disagree with their lifestyle does not mean to say I do not try to have some understanding on the subject. I most certainly do not hate them and had a very good friend whose son was homosexual. It is their choice. People lead and live the life they want to and I am not here to judge or call anyone.
The age of consent is 16 in the UK and this has tried to be lowered. I cannot recall reading any outrage from the general public about any of this when I was in the UK but here in the States well why the outrage from ex-pats two and two does not add up.
nb I am reading that the Page in question (his statement) did not receive any e-mails until 1997, he is now 26, which means he was 17 when the e-mails were sent, not 16 as been reported and had never met Foley. After receiving the e-mails he still took up an invatation to go to visit Foley. As someone has said there is whole lot more to this than meets the eye..
The age of consent is 16 in the UK and this has tried to be lowered. I cannot recall reading any outrage from the general public about any of this when I was in the UK but here in the States well why the outrage from ex-pats two and two does not add up.
nb I am reading that the Page in question (his statement) did not receive any e-mails until 1997, he is now 26, which means he was 17 when the e-mails were sent, not 16 as been reported and had never met Foley. After receiving the e-mails he still took up an invatation to go to visit Foley. As someone has said there is whole lot more to this than meets the eye..
Oct 5th 2006 | 7:24 am
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Re: Jesus Camp
Originally Posted by Manc
age of consent in Washington is 16
I find his behaviour odd, not illegal just odd.
just admit you like young lads, which he obviously does.....
blaming behaviour on your lifestyle isn't an excuse. being gay and a drunk doesn't make you a Dog......being horny makes you a Dog.
I find his behaviour odd, not illegal just odd.
just admit you like young lads, which he obviously does.....
blaming behaviour on your lifestyle isn't an excuse. being gay and a drunk doesn't make you a Dog......being horny makes you a Dog.
Oct 5th 2006 | 7:27 am
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Re: Jesus Camp
Originally Posted by tony126
As usual people interpret what is written to insinuate whatever they want. So let me make it clear where I stand on homosexuality. Although I disagree with their lifestyle does not mean to say I do not try to have some understanding on the subject. I most certainly do not hate them and had a very good friend whose son was homosexual. It is their choice. People lead and live the life they want to and I am not here to judge or call anyone.
The age of consent is 16 in the UK and this has tried to be lowered. I cannot recall reading any outrage from the general public about any of this when I was in the UK but here in the States well why the outrage from ex-pats two and two does not add up.
nb I am reading that the Page in question (his statement) did not receive any e-mails until 1997, he is now 26, which means he was 17 when the e-mails were sent, not 16 as been reported and had never met Foley. After receiving the e-mails he still took up an invatation to go to visit Foley. As someone has said there is whole lot more to this than meets the eye..
The age of consent is 16 in the UK and this has tried to be lowered. I cannot recall reading any outrage from the general public about any of this when I was in the UK but here in the States well why the outrage from ex-pats two and two does not add up.
nb I am reading that the Page in question (his statement) did not receive any e-mails until 1997, he is now 26, which means he was 17 when the e-mails were sent, not 16 as been reported and had never met Foley. After receiving the e-mails he still took up an invatation to go to visit Foley. As someone has said there is whole lot more to this than meets the eye..
Oct 5th 2006 | 7:29 am
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Re: Jesus Camp
Originally Posted by Leslie66
They're arresting guys on Dateline every week for doing exactly the same thing to teenage girls. Why shouldn't Foley be held to the same standard?
Oct 5th 2006 | 7:33 am
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Re: Jesus Camp
Originally Posted by TruBrit
this question was on the tv last night and seems that to be arrested a text/IM has to show where the perv actually made arrangements to meet the innocent male/female and as yet they have not found one in the foley case.
