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Old Oct 2nd 2019, 12:14 pm
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Originally Posted by carcajou
What concerns me is that deputy principals aren't in the habit of telling 16 year olds with foreign transcripts, that they have an equivalent high school diploma and can't be enrolled, without a very good reason (such as they really do have an equivalent diploma). Administrators usually err on the side of extreme caution.

Besides that there are huge legal liabilities for wrongly declining an enrollment from someone who lives in the cachement area.
This is the 2nd incident on BE alone right now and in 2 separate school districts as well. So, something is going on. However, I would like to know how they claim the children can graduate without the US history element at least. As far as I can tell, the parents haven't provided details of the kid's curriculum either. I think pushing back is appropriate right now if only to get clarity. However, with Florida schools' reputation ( abysmal but then I have seen only BE people comments) the children may well be better off in the community colleges.
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Old Oct 2nd 2019, 1:55 pm
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Some Colleges in the USA will take a high performance set of GCSE's as meeting entry requirements, so it is not unheard of I guess.
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Old Oct 3rd 2019, 11:07 am
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Originally Posted by carcajou
To clear up any confusion about Community Colleges -

US universities are generally four-year programs.

The first two years of that, are what is called "general studies" where students are expected to take a breadth of courses irregardless of planned program of study.

The last two years are when they specialise, and this is called their "major."

An Associates Degree at a Community College is equivalent to the first two years of the Bachelor's degree. There are some exceptions but generally speaking the first two years at the Community College, and the first two years at the university, are exactly the same from a programming point of view.

A Community College student will either stop there with the Associates, or apply to enroll at the four-year university to get a Bachelor's. They will enter the university at the specialisation or "major" stage.

It varies by state, but often a state university is required by law to accept a certain percentage of community college students who want to transfer in after getting their Associates.. So, in states that have a prestigious flagship university, like Florida, if a student can't get admitted at the end of high school, they go to the community college and then use this as a "back door" way in later on. When you get your Bachelor's Degree, it just says the name of the granting university - no mention of the Community College or that the first two years were done elsewhere.

Community Colleges are often usually cheaper and so some students do that to save money and then transfer to the university after the AA.

Community Colleges generally have to accept anyone who applies for admission. So - no, it is not a prestigious thing, not some kind of Gifted and Talented institution.

Dual-enrollment high school age students will often be with other dual-enrollment high school age students in a sort of program within the Community College and that is an advantageous situation equivalent to IB etc. It knocks off two years of university credits and expenses, so yes it was good advice from the counselor to recommend going this way if being in the regular high school is not an option. Advanced Placement courses in high schools often provide the same advantage, and yes for some dual enrollment is better and for others Advanced Placement is better.

While the child will miss out on the "high school experience," the "university experience" is equally important in the American psyche and the "old tie" is usually formed at the university level and not in high school. Though there will still be the mismatch in socialisation if your child is entering university at 18 but already effectively a junior instead of a freshman, and thus in classes with 20 and 21 year olds.

If the socialisation aspect or languages etc is important to you - there are other options as well.

Good luck.
Hi, Can i just check, are you saying if they went to college for 2 years then join university, then they will only have two years to do at university? Thanks
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Old Oct 3rd 2019, 11:12 am
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Hi, Can i just check, are you saying if they went to college for 2 years then join university, then they will only have two years to do at university? Thanks
Yes.

The first two years at Community College, count as the first two years at university.

A person who finishes Community College with their Associates, enters university at the third year (the major stage), not the first year.

I think when they enter they are even classed, technically, as transfer students.

The diploma at the end only says the name of the university and is the exact same as those who were at university for the full four years. No trace whatsoever of community college attendance.

Note that I am speaking about public universities.

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Originally Posted by carcajou
Yes.

The first two years at Community College, count as the first two years at university.

A person who finishes Community College with their Associates, enters university at the third year (the major stage), not the first year.

I think when they enter they are even classed, technically, as transfer students.

The diploma at the end only says the name of the university and is the exact same as those who were at university for the full four years. No trace whatsoever of community college attendance.

Note that I am speaking about public universities.
Thats great, thanks for the information
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Old Oct 3rd 2019, 12:58 pm
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Hi, Can i just check, are you saying if they went to college for 2 years then join university, then they will only have two years to do at university? Thanks
1. The student needs to verify the courses/credits are in alignment with the university courses. ie. I know that in Austin there is a path laid out for them. I also know that the courses that are common requirements for university classes are over subscribed and not everyone gets into them and this can lead to delays getting into university.
2. You need to have a sufficient GPA to gain entry to the university - ie pass the classes with sufficiently high enough scores.
3. your daughter will be 2 years younger than everyone else at university.
4. Pre-requirements. The classes will have pre-required classes she needs to have done- you can't assume that your daughter has already got them with the GCSE. There may be "general' requirements ( a high school diploma) or specific course/class requirements ( ie biology).

Otherwise, I concur with carcajou, community college is an excellent way into most university classes.


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