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English Idiot Dec 30th 2008 4:49 am

Re: I AM CLUELESS
 

Originally Posted by Manc (Post 7111398)
call your MP

Colin Challener MP for Morley and south leeds was told everything on the 4th december.

as of yet f uck all

Manc Dec 30th 2008 4:51 am

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Originally Posted by English Idiot (Post 7111411)
Colin Challener MP for Morley and south leeds was told everything on the 4th december.

as of yet f uck all

did you speak to him personally?

hobbes79 Dec 30th 2008 4:55 am

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Courtesy of Fatbrit:


Originally Posted by fatbrit (Post 7059899)
http://forms.cbp.gov/pdf/CBP_Form_I775.pdf

"2: The carrier will unconditionally honor and transport from the United States any alien presenting a ticket as set forth in subparagraph (d) of paragraph of this Agreement and 8 CFR 231."

Of course they will want to see your documents, and your overstay is unlawful in the sense that you're not supposed to be here, but you have not committed a crime. While no one can guarantee anything, the chances of them locking you up for overstaying when you are standing in an airport trying to go home are bugger all.

Your options are:

1. Kick up all the fuss you need to with the airline, asking for supervisor after supervisor and camping out in front of the desk until they put you on a plane, or
2. Stay here illegally for the rest of your life.

chartreuse Dec 30th 2008 4:57 am

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Originally Posted by English Idiot (Post 7111399)
I have i went to Chicago O'Hair and was told that, look i am not a small man nor do i back down from people but they wont help me, i was told that to my face.

Chicago O'Hair - is that like Guys & Dolls, but with hippies? ;)

Then gamble. Front it out, tell them "Go ahead and call law enforcement". Chances are, you'll get an airport cop rather than CBP, who may well tell them "Look, just put the guy on a plane".

Brit3964 Dec 30th 2008 4:59 am

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This is a bit out of left field but....have you tried asking around local FBO's (Fixed Base Operators) at the local airports if anybody knows of a transatlantic ferry flight being planned?

Failing that, look up some FBO's in Bangor, ME (KBGR) and ask around. That is a big staging point for beginning transatlantic ferry flights. All kinds of airplanes get ferried to UK, not just small single engined pistons. You might get lucky and hitch a ride on a bizjet.

Good luck.

penguinsix Dec 30th 2008 5:00 am

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Could he go to Canada for a few days / weeks and then reenter the US after his ticketing is sorted?

English Idiot Dec 30th 2008 5:02 am

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Originally Posted by hobbes79 (Post 7111428)
Courtesy of Fatbrit:



Of course they will want to see your documents, and your overstay is unlawful in the sense that you're not supposed to be here, but you have not committed a crime. While no one can guarantee anything, the chances of them locking you up for overstaying when you are standing in an airport trying to go home are bugger all.

Your options are:

1. Kick up all the fuss you need to with the airline, asking for supervisor after supervisor and camping out in front of the desk until they put you on a plane, or
2. Stay here illegally for the rest of your life.

thats my next plan am heading to the airport tonight

fatbrit Dec 30th 2008 5:04 am

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Originally Posted by penguinsix (Post 7111447)
Could he go to Canada for a few days / weeks and then reenter the US after his ticketing is sorted?

Canadians will probably refuse to take him -- he's overstayed the VWP. And if they did, he cannot re-enter the US without a visa now.

He needs to get his ass down to an airport (preferably O'Hare since they have direct flights--he can hitch down there) and camp out till they send him home or arrest him. Either way, his problem is solved.

hobbes79 Dec 30th 2008 5:04 am

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Originally Posted by English Idiot (Post 7111459)
thats my next plan am heading to the airport tonight

Best of luck

meauxna Dec 30th 2008 5:42 am

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Originally Posted by chartreuse (Post 7111433)
Chicago O'Hair - is that like Guys & Dolls, but with hippies? ;)

heheh.. that is karma worthy but I'm tapped.


OP Dude, what have YOU done to raise funds lately? Sold plasma? Collected recycling? Panhandled? Held a bake sale?

I thought you'd find this post interesting but I didn't know you were still around. At least you're not the only one!

Re: I'm an overstayer and I want out.


Originally Posted by JCraigFong (Post 7107964)
Dear Christobad:

There are a number of things here which are noteworthy: (a) it sounds as if you came to the USA in order to live with your girlfriend and work here (without employment authorization), so you may not find a very sympathetic ear in some quarters, (b) your over stay is NOT a crime -- it is unlawful in the sense that you're not supposed to be here still, but you have not committed a crime; very important to keep this in mind, and (c) if other posters are correct -- and I have no personal knowledge that they are or not -- that the UK Consulate in NY will provide you no repatriation assistance, you may need to contact friends and family back in the UK.

Surrendering one's self to Immigration and Customs Enforcement would be exceedingly unpleasant. You could be incarcerated for several weeks while the bureaucratic wheels process you for removal. Further, if you are in fact removed at US government expense, you would never again be able to use the Visa Waiver Program to enter the USA, and there is significant complexity if you should ever with to return for a visit. (Yes, yes, I know: it sounds like it was a bad break up, so you'll probably "never come to America again.") Still, a removal would see to it that your eligibility to come back to the USA ever again would be very dicey indeed; you would need a waiver to return!

Finally, if I note correctly that you have overstayed by only ONE MONTH, then I strongly urge you to contact family -- or maybe Delta airlines would put you on stand by for a flight out; don't nix the idea until you try it -- and get out of the USA before you have racked up more than 180 of unlawful presence in the USA. If you leave before you have 180 days of unlawful presence, you would need a visa from Grosvenor Square to return to the USA in the future, but there are plenty of ways to make that happen.

Best of luck.

--J Craig Fong
Los Angeles, CA


lansbury Dec 30th 2008 5:42 am

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Originally Posted by English Idiot (Post 7111298)
so i called BA and e-mailed BA to be told that they dont keep copes of tickets longer than 24hours and that it would be in the achieve at there New York office.

I know personally that is true. The maximum the reservation stays in the reservation system is 12 - 24 hours after the flight has completed, that is the same for just about all airlines. Then it is archived and stored.

cindyabs Dec 30th 2008 6:14 am

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Originally Posted by lansbury (Post 7111619)
I know personally that is true. The maximum the reservation stays in the reservation system is 12 - 24 hours after the flight has completed, that is the same for just about all airlines. Then it is archived and stored.

The reservation yes, once the flight has departed then the record locator is gone, BUT a ticket number is still there and can be pulled up. We put a retention line in our reservations that is normally 3-6 months past the date of travel so if a client calls back (normally the corporate guys) and needs a duplicate invoice/itinerary we still have the info, it's still there in the "history" of a reservation.

I agree about the camping out and asking for a supervisor, it does not have to take 6 weeks to research a claim.

Bob Dec 30th 2008 7:31 am

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Originally Posted by Brit3964 (Post 7111445)

Failing that, look up some FBO's in Bangor, ME (KBGR) and ask around. That is a big staging point for beginning transatlantic ferry flights. All kinds of airplanes get ferried to UK, not just small single engined pistons. You might get lucky and hitch a ride on a bizjet.

Bangor is a bit of a hike if he's not getting much luck at Chicago...and you been to Bangor airport? It's one step above a trailer, so if he lucks out he'll be stranded...admittedly 10 mins from Bangor by car...though on the plus side, immigration is pretty lax and the guy is about a million years old :D

lansbury Dec 30th 2008 8:36 am

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Originally Posted by cindyabs (Post 7111732)
The reservation yes, once the flight has departed then the record locator is gone, BUT a ticket number is still there and can be pulled up. We put a retention line in our reservations that is normally 3-6 months past the date of travel so if a client calls back (normally the corporate guys) and needs a duplicate invoice/itinerary we still have the info, it's still there in the "history" of a reservation.

I agree about the camping out and asking for a supervisor, it does not have to take 6 weeks to research a claim.

I'm not sure with BA that is true, I had access to the BA reservation system at Heathrow and once it was archived I couldn't get any details. I had to phone the BA Security at Waterside (Head Office) and they did it on one of their terminals, took seconds to call it back. I'd put the Data Act form on the fax and phone across to them and get the details I wanted.

chartreuse Dec 30th 2008 9:19 am

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Originally Posted by lansbury (Post 7112195)
I'd put the Data Act form on the fax and phone across to them and get the details I wanted.

Ah, yes. Good old 29(3) :D


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