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Sally Redux Oct 13th 2014 1:42 pm

Re: How much is enough – Northeast
 

Originally Posted by dan_j (Post 11436928)
I hear you Sally, these are great - very important questions, and I'm positive on all of them,
in fact those are the ones we had to address before I even applied for the Visa:

I have great job offer in my hands, which more than doubles my UK salary, my oldest son is on his pre GCSE
year working on extended math exam this year, so moving over, right now will be difficult for him,
however he is looking forward for a chance to study at MIT in the future (hence the NE area) he is aware about
drawbacks and possible benefits, though.
We are looking forward for proper summers and winters (comparing to gloominess of 11 out of 12 months here),
as well, that would be a benefit.

What future brings we cannot tell, we might go back to UK - children might remain in US, every man is the architect
of his own fortune, there is nothing we can do as a parents (who can anyway) to keep them with us even if w stay
in UK.

However - again - i would't move abroad w/o understanding immediate financial impliciations we will have to deal
with after move so thats why I wanted to collect this info. it was a great exercise anyway I already learnt
some stuff i was not aware of nor prepared for.

That's good.

So money shouldn't be a problem, you just want to put some detail on it.

Is the job itself tied to a particular area? Your son could go to MIT from anywhere.

Yorkieabroad Oct 13th 2014 1:45 pm

Re: How much is enough – Northeast
 

Originally Posted by dan_j (Post 11436848)
{$1000 extra school spendings (in school and after school activities including sport related, holiday care)}

You've got 2 kids, right? Can't remember the ages, or whether wife is going to be working. If she is, then I reckon this is going to be a bit light - quick back of envelope calculation, we got very close to 4k/kid for activities including summer this year, but I stay home so they "only" did 3 weeks of summer camps this year, and those were Scout based camps (see below)

The 11+ week summer break is going to be pricey if you need full time camp for them due to both parents working - round us, camp prices vary massively, but the cheapest tend to be the church VBS type thing around 250-300/week upwards. Specialist camps (eg robotics, science etc) start around 500/week, and residential camps (Pine Cove Christian camp is a popular one round here) run 1000/week upwards.

The cheaper options I see tend to be the Scout-based ones - Cub Scout Day camp (8.30-3.00) is around 60 for the week, Natural Science museum run camps around the 250 mark for a week, but again, not a full day, only 9.00-2.30. My 11yo sons 6 night residential Camp in Texas was 275 this year, and the 13yo was almost 900 for a week climbing in Colorado. Next year he is going sailing in Florida for a week which will run around1200. Main benefit of that one is that I will be going with him:thumbup:

Here is something I posted earlier this summer about some folk we met where both parents worked....http://britishexpats.com/forum/trail.../#post11370867

rpjs Oct 13th 2014 2:10 pm

Re: How much is enough – Northeast
 

Originally Posted by dan_j (Post 11436928)
We are looking forward for proper summers and winters (comparing to gloominess of 11 out of 12 months here), as well, that would be a benefit.

Be careful what you wish for. Whilst in general I too prefer the local climate to endless days of grey drizzle, I sometimes reconsider in the midst of 100F summer heatwaves or trudging through inches-deep snow. Actually, I don't mind so much the inches-deep snow, it's when it melts a little and re-freezes and turns sidewalks and roadways alike into skating rinks that I wonder why I moved...

And we're just in the Lower Hudson Valley - I shudder to think what winters are like up in Northern New England.

Sally Redux Oct 13th 2014 2:23 pm

Re: How much is enough – Northeast
 

Originally Posted by rpjs (Post 11436964)
Be careful what you wish for. Whilst in general I too prefer the local climate to endless days of grey drizzle, I sometimes reconsider in the midst of 100F summer heatwaves or trudging through inches-deep snow. Actually, I don't mind so much the inches-deep snow, it's when it melts a little and re-freezes and turns sidewalks and roadways alike into skating rinks that I wonder why I moved...

And we're just in the Lower Hudson Valley - I shudder to think what winters are like up in Northern New England.

My definition of a 'proper summer' has changed now.

http://media2.firstshowing.net/first...t-crop-img.jpg

Amie06 Oct 13th 2014 3:10 pm

Re: How much is enough – Northeast
 

Originally Posted by rpjs (Post 11436964)
Be careful what you wish for. Whilst in general I too prefer the local climate to endless days of grey drizzle, I sometimes reconsider in the midst of 100F summer heatwaves or trudging through inches-deep snow. Actually, I don't mind so much the inches-deep snow, it's when it melts a little and re-freezes and turns sidewalks and roadways alike into skating rinks that I wonder why I moved...

And we're just in the Lower Hudson Valley - I shudder to think what winters are like up in Northern New England.

Now your talking, WEATHER the great British subject, here in 'bama when you meet someone they ask how you are, meet somebody in the UK and they bitch about the weather. That said i love the weather here in the south, HOT days yes, COLD days, not really :cool:

Bob Oct 13th 2014 5:24 pm

Re: How much is enough – Northeast
 

Originally Posted by dan_j (Post 11436848)
- $2000 rent - 3 bedroom (~200 sq./ft.)

For Dover and surrounds, probably the $1500 mark for an apartment, which may or may not include the heat. If you were over the border and in Maine, unless they had individual meters, it would definitely include the heat.

For a house, rent is probably on the mark. Though harder to find, especially outside of summer.

Bob Oct 13th 2014 5:26 pm

Re: How much is enough – Northeast
 

Originally Posted by dan_j (Post 11436928)
We are looking forward for proper summers and winters (comparing to gloominess of 11 out of 12 months here),
as well, that would be a benefit.

You don't move to New England for the weather.

It rains here more than in the UK, the summers are hot and humid and the winters long and cold.

Less shit on the coast, mind.

Bnet36 Oct 13th 2014 6:06 pm

Re: How much is enough – Northeast
 
Proper Summers for us equate to indoor activities and high AC bills. Proper winters - well for us in GA it means being on the national news for 1 inch of snow that turned to ice and the city was shut down for one week. In other parts, winter means shoveling snow every morning just to get to work.

Spring and Autumn... now we are talking, but it only lasts for a month if we are lucky.

Bring on the not so proper weather ...

Bnet36 Oct 13th 2014 6:08 pm

Re: How much is enough – Northeast
 

Originally Posted by Sally Redux (Post 11436977)
My definition of a 'proper summer' has changed now.

http://media2.firstshowing.net/first...t-crop-img.jpg

:rofl: We need to get you some help:lol:

Pulaski Oct 13th 2014 7:10 pm

Re: How much is enough – Northeast
 

Originally Posted by Bnet36 (Post 11437205)
.... We need to get you some help. ....

She could move somewhere where the weather is better, say, like California, for example. :unsure:

Bnet36 Oct 14th 2014 12:05 am

Re: How much is enough – Northeast
 
Boomerang effect!

Sally Redux Oct 14th 2014 8:32 am

Re: How much is enough – Northeast
 
Actually I meant I never want to experience prison-planet weather again.

dan_j Oct 14th 2014 11:04 am

Re: How much is enough – Northeast
 

Originally Posted by Yorkieabroad (Post 11436949)
You've got 2 kids, right? Can't remember the ages, or whether wife is going to be working. If she is, then I reckon this is going to be a bit light - quick back of envelope calculation, we got very close to 4k/kid for activities including summer this year, but I stay home so they "only" did 3 weeks of summer camps this year, and those were Scout based camps (see below)

The 11+ week summer break is going to be pricey if you need full time camp for them due to both parents working - round us, camp prices vary massively, but the cheapest tend to be the church VBS type thing around 250-300/week upwards. Specialist camps (eg robotics, science etc) start around 500/week, and residential camps (Pine Cove Christian camp is a popular one round here) run 1000/week upwards.

The cheaper options I see tend to be the Scout-based ones - Cub Scout Day camp (8.30-3.00) is around 60 for the week, Natural Science museum run camps around the 250 mark for a week, but again, not a full day, only 9.00-2.30. My 11yo sons 6 night residential Camp in Texas was 275 this year, and the 13yo was almost 900 for a week climbing in Colorado. Next year he is going sailing in Florida for a week which will run around1200. Main benefit of that one is that I will be going with him:thumbup:

Here is something I posted earlier this summer about some folk we met where both parents worked....http://britishexpats.com/forum/trail.../#post11370867

I'll update my comment I think I put 60 through 250 to 900 per week per child for summer camps, I would not put that to the monthly breakdown, though (some families might do it some not anyway).

dan_j Oct 14th 2014 11:06 am

Re: How much is enough – Northeast
 

Originally Posted by Sally Redux (Post 11436943)
That's good.

So money shouldn't be a problem, you just want to put some detail on it.

Is the job itself tied to a particular area? Your son could go to MIT from anywhere.

At this point it's tight to Portsmouth area.

Redwing Oct 14th 2014 12:31 pm

Re: How much is enough – Northeast
 

Originally Posted by Bnet36 (Post 11437203)
Proper Summers for us equate to indoor activities and high AC bills. Proper winters - well for us in GA it means being on the national news for 1 inch of snow that turned to ice and the city was shut down for one week. In other parts, winter means shoveling snow every morning just to get to work.

Spring and Autumn... now we are talking, but it only lasts for a month if we are lucky.

Bring on the not so proper weather ...

I have spent so many years living in hot summers, that I am used to it, and I much prefer it to the cold.


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