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Old Jan 23rd 2007, 3:57 pm
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Originally Posted by another bloody yank
That's crazy.
It is not.

A lot saner than paying for a pointless war.

It's a question of priorities.
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Old Jan 23rd 2007, 4:02 pm
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This article explains well how it works..

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4356310.stm
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Old Jan 23rd 2007, 4:05 pm
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A lot saner than paying for a pointless war.
Ya got me there, I guess. It's also a lot saner (is "saner" even a legitimate word?) than sticking my bare foot under a running lawnmower.


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It's a question of priorities.
I agree, but if it's O.K. to take a years unpaid leave, why not just quit?
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Old Jan 23rd 2007, 4:08 pm
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Ya got me there, I guess. It's also a lot saner (is "saner" even a legitimate word?) than sticking my bare foot under a running lawnmower.




I agree, but if it's O.K. to take a years unpaid leave, why not just quit?
Why quit if she's going back? You seem to fail to grasp that one important aspect to maternity legislation is that it is a means for RETAINING staff.

Although I can see that in an economy which sees nothing wrong with firing workers at will and without notice, this concept may be difficult to grasp.
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[QUOTE=another bloody yank;4316743I agree, but if it's O.K. to take a years unpaid leave, why not just quit?[/QUOTE]



i think a year is too long to expect an employer to keep a job open in all fairness.
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Ya got me there, I guess. It's also a lot saner (is "saner" even a legitimate word?) than sticking my bare foot under a running lawnmower.




I agree, but if it's O.K. to take a years unpaid leave, why not just quit?
Why would you want to quit and have to start all over when the year is up if you have a job to go to? It must be quite hard to go back to work after taking a year of as it is..
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i think a year is too long to expect an employer to keep a job open in all fairness.
Hm.

For some reason it seems okay to keep jobs open for Army Reserves and the like...

As I said, it is all a question of priorities...
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Originally Posted by Elvira
Why quit if she's going back? You seem to fail to grasp that one important aspect to maternity legislation is that it is a means for RETAINING staff.

Although I can see that in an economy which sees nothing wrong with firing workers at will and without notice, this concept may be difficult to grasp.

i agree elvira however 1 year is pushing the boat out but that is my opinion.

if the UK law states it then the employee should be entitled much as the USA pregnant mums should have their leave with no pressure being added.
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Old Jan 23rd 2007, 4:15 pm
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[QUOTE=Elvira;4316769]Hm.

For some reason it seems okay to keep jobs open for Army Reserves and the like...

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well now you have a point....out of interest is their job kept for a certain length of time?
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In my work environment, coming back after being gone for a year would be almost worse than starting fresh. There would be new systems, methods, clients, etc... Everything you knew would be outdated. Hell, your co-workers would have forgotten your name by then. By the time you got back up to speed it'd be time for baby #2!

We sacrificed financially for a few years until my kids started elementary school so that my wife could stay home with them. So believe me when I say I do not think that it is unimportant for a Mother to spend all possible time with the children, quite the opposite..
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Hm.

For some reason it seems okay to keep jobs open for Army Reserves and the like...

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well now you have a point....out of interest is their job kept for a certain length of time?
Not sure, but we had several teachers from our sons' high school going off to Iraq. I think they were gone at least a year.
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Not sure, but we had several teachers from our sons' high school going off to Iraq. I think they were gone at least a year.
oh ok, the little i know about the Reserves is that it is compulsory (i think) to go if called up so maybe that is why their jobs are kept open for so long.
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Old Jan 23rd 2007, 4:22 pm
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In my work environment, coming back after being gone for a year would be almost worse than starting fresh. There would be new systems, methods, clients, etc... Everything you knew would be outdated. Hell, your co-workers would have forgotten your name by then. By the time you got back up to speed it'd be time for baby #2!

We sacrificed financially for a few years until my kids started elementary school so that my wife could stay home with them. So believe me when I say I do not think that it is unimportant for a Mother to spend all possible time with the children, quite the opposite..
You seem to think that women on maternity leave are simply cut off from their employers. In the UK, employers will usually make sure that these employees are kept in the loop about developments in the workplace.

Certainly when I was on maternity leave I was copied on all important memos and had regular telephone updates on what was happening in the company. I continued to read the trade journals.

Also, I would be invited to all company functions, including the mandatory Friday after-work drinks. But I forget, you don't have those in the US, do you...
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Old Jan 23rd 2007, 4:29 pm
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So now you are equating bringing up the next generation (you know - the people who are going to keep the economy running when you are retired, and wipe your ass when you become to feable to do so )....... with purchasing a Ferrari??

Wow. I mean........ words fail me. But clearly you are an idiot.
So the reason we have kids is to look after old people - that's certainly a novel (and incredibly selfish) concept.

We went through this last night and you didn't even attempt to come up with one reason why encouraging people to breed is a good idea, apart from the welfare of the next generation of elderly. What about generations who will follow in 80, 90, 100, 200 years time ???

Overpopulation obviously isn't an issue to you then - space on the planet is as much a resource as fresh water, fossil fuels, etc and you clearly don't give a damn.
I suggest you go out and buy yourself a massive SUV whilst you're at it and be done with it.
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Also, I would be invited to all company functions, including the mandatory Friday after-work drinks. But I forget, you don't have those in the US, do you...
No, but we did have a Chistmas party this year! It was a buffet lunch at the local Casino. We had to pay our own way so it ended up costing me $32.50. ($12.50 for lunch and $20 wasted in the Casino.) We also got a Christmas bonus which was the right to a casual dress (Jeans and a nice shirt) THURSDAY in addition to the normal casual Friday the week before Christmas. That was cool.
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